Saturday (08/02) observations -- who is a "strong buy"? and "Strong Sell"?

[sago1]

Great post. Glad you had a great time. Hope you visit camp again and send us lots more info.

 

[ZeroClub]

Brad Johnson:

I'm not sold on him as a backup either but I have to mention a funny tidbit, IMHO, on him...He was the only player on the field during morning practices in sweatpants...The oldest guy and the only one in the early fog filled practice wearing sweatpants while every other player were in some combination of shorts...He stood out like an, old man :laugh2:

As long as Brad Johnson isn't wearing black socks with shorts, I'm good.

 

[Shango]

very nice!

 

[stealth]

Texas is all gaga about the longshot local Amendola and who cares 6th WR possibility.

Are you completely daft?

 

[groo]

What's interesting is that Oglesby is getting high praise from Wade and has led all CB in interceptions during camp. Maybe just a bad day???

Check the link for the post with comments about Oglesby from Wade:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123341

As well as positive comments from others:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123317

Yeah, I remember some people mentioned Oglesby was doing well so hopefully I just caught him on one bad day. I actually didn't even know his number but I kept seeing #23 getting beat and so I looked up the program and it said Oglesby.

 

[groo]

Good account but I think you are a little off on Stanback based on all reports. Ray Sherman, the receivers coach has stated that Stanbach is making significant progress better than he expected. Sure Isaiah will struggle some and has to become more efficient in his cuts but he has extraordinary speed and athletic ability for his size. Stanbach has made some pretty impressive catches this training camp.

Yes I saw him made some good catches too. I am not down on him at all. I simply think he's not consistent and polished enough compared to Austin and Hurd. He just needs time. I don't expect him to contribute as WR much this year.

I also think you are a bit off base on Jerry Jones by interpreting his interaction with the fans as purely driven by marketing. Not everything he does is based on a marketing motive. Jerry has a reputation for genuinely caring for fans. Sure he is cognizant of the Cowboys image and wants to maintain good will so how about chalking it up to Jerry wanting to take good care of the folks that greatly support the players and the organization.

I agree that's Jerry is a great owner. I think he's the best in sports. I wish I could grow up and be like him. So I didn't mean to sound like he's driven by marketing. I thought it was great that he even cared enough to walk across the field and personally gave the ball to that fan.

 

[groo]

You comlete me!! lol

lol :laugh2: I love that line when the Joker said it to Batman

 

[Chief]

I really enjoyed reading your impressions. Thanks for taking the time to post them. Well done.

My thoughts exactly.

Thanks groo.

 

[groo]

Hadn't spent anytime writing a post on our visit but gotta echo what you have mentioned as well.

Hurd & Austin:

Really impressive footwork and quickness/burst in and out of routes...They started the practice with these WR drills and pretty much everyone was impressive but Hurd & Austin stood out, IMHO...And Hurd, dude is pretty ripped...Must be working out with T.O...I left feeling better about both of them.

Stanback:

He was noticably behind the curve on that WR drill which kinda disappointed me...You could see perhaps it's a combination of things (Converted WR, Thinking too much, Mechanical etc.) but that quick footwork simply wasn't there...To give a rough analogy, he looked a bit like a Clydesdale compare to the other WRs and was not particularly smooth getting in and out of routes...I will say he is a big guy and for someone of his size he has terrific speed and seems very dedicated (Even after the morning practice ended, he was still out there practicing routes and catching passes)...Perhaps an overreaction but I am not counting on him being a WR factor this season...Maybe he'll be used as a returner, running a reverse etc. but not sure how much he will be playing with the first team in the near future...On a positive note, I didn't see him really drop any balls that were even close to him

I have the same exact impressions as you about these 3 WRs. I also noticed Stanback's slow footwork in this one drill where the receivers ran backward then spin 270 then run forward. I don't expect Stanback to be contributed much as a WR this year.

(Not a lot of dropped balls overall, although there was one memorable one when T.O. missed a great pass from Romo on deep pass that led to a lot of awwws from the crowd).

yeah, that was in the morning practice when TO ran a deep corner route. The ball was coming down over his left shoulder and his him right in the basket but it bounced off.

Felix Jones:

I wasn't high on the kid when he was drafted but have slowly been converted...I like everything I hear about the player definitely enjoy the player I saw in drills...I think it's hard to see what kind of RB a RB will be in these practices without full contact but he does have some wiggle and burst that will undoubtedly be a great changeup to Barber.

Yeah, I wanted Mendehall but I can see now how Jones is a better complement to Barber. There have been talks that Felix could be like Westbrook. Wouldn't that be great?

Bobby Carpenter:

Perhaps we're finally going to see some good things out of him this season...He looked solid all practice, IMHO.

yeah, I hope they don't move him around anymore and give him a chance to get better.

Brad Johnson:

I'm not sold on him as a backup either but I have to mention a funny tidbit, IMHO, on him...He was the only player on the field during morning practices in sweatpants...The oldest guy and the only one in the early fog filled practice wearing sweatpants while every other player were in some combination of shorts...He stood out like an, old man :laugh2:

He did look old in those sweat pants. I thought it was funny how he constantly was stretching that I-dont-know-how-old-body of his.

 

[groo]

thanks for the post, I went to camp there BP's last year and some days they held practice on the far side of the field by the golf course. You couldn't see a thing!

that was one thing I didn't like about BP's camp. I wasn't thinking about going this year if practices were held on the far field till I read that Wade had practices on the near field.

had a blast but never stood so much in my life at one time period LOL

carl's barbecue is a must to go eat,some of the best barbecue food

have fun and keep reporting

:laugh2: me too dude. My back hurt last night from the whole day standing. You can't see as much from the bleachers they set up behind the fence. and I could smell that BBQ during the whole practice so I had to go get some ribs for dinner.

 

[groo]

My thoughts exactly.

Thanks groo.

De nada, Chief.

 

[groo]

Excellent work...Please give us more.

glad to add to your reading pleasure, Pops. Don't post much. Most everyone here do a great job. So I only post if there's something to add to the Zone.

 

[jobberone]

Nice post Groo. Keep them coming and add as much as you like. The more the better.

 

[arglebargle]

Funny thing about Stanback and footwork at WR: I was going over some old pre-draft reports on him, and one thing caught my eye. Evaluated as a QB, they said his footwork was terrible, and he'd need to work on it if he was ever to be successful.

So, he may just have issues with foot co-ordination period. Though given his athletic prowess, he may have been able to get by without even worrying about that part of the technique. Considering his performance in track, you have to figure at least that part of it must be good.

I think the Cowboys are pretty happy with what they've got, and I expect that some of their WRs, like the CBs, will be picked up by other teams. Better to have that problem than the reverse, that's for sure.....

 

[cowboyed]

Yes I saw him made some good catches too. I am not down on him at all. I simply think he's not consistent and polished enough compared to Austin and Hurd. He just needs time. I don't expect him to contribute as WR much this year.


I agree that's Jerry is a great owner. I think he's the best in sports. I wish I could grow up and be like him. So I didn't mean to sound like he's driven by marketing. I thought it was great that he even cared enough to walk across the field and personally gave the ball to that fan.

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree Stanbach is inconsistent as my spelling of his last name.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Funny thing about Stanback and footwork at WR: I was going over some old pre-draft reports on him, and one thing caught my eye. Evaluated as a QB, they said his footwork was terrible, and he'd need to work on it if he was ever to be successful.

So, he may just have issues with foot co-ordination period. quote]



Cant he go on Dancing with the Stars or something? :laugh2:

 

[BlueStar II]

Thanks so much for posting this info., keep up the great work.

 

[BlueStar II]

While Stanback may have made some progress according to some of the coaching staff, I still don't expect to see much from him this year in terms of on the field contributions. I would really like to see him prove me wrong, but, I'll believe it when I see it from him.

 

[Nors]

Stanbach is the player needed to cut for Amendola to make 53.

INTERESTING TO SEE THIS PLAY OUT!

 

[Ren]

Stanbach is the player needed to cut for Amendola to make 53.

INTERESTING TO SEE THIS PLAY OUT!

here we go... when i log back on tomorrow this thread will be at least 20 pages

Adds fuel to your little "i hate Amendola, Amendola is the anti-chirst" agenda don't it?