Scandrick decides on his own to take Garcon in the 4th

[cowboys1981]

Now can someone move Ware to the weak side? We need to activate Martez Wilson for this week.

 

[visionary]

And here I thought the axiom was "players play, coaches coach". I guess things are so bad around here that the players have to coach as well.

that is obviously not true
it happens all the time apprarently where players change coverages and assignments without the knwledge of the coaches

 

[visionary]

Your passive-aggressive comments don't really serve you well. And you either never played the game or you never understood to take it upon yourself to change the defense or your play at times. Perhaps this was not allowed on your team.

On defense players make adjustments all the time esp at LB and DB. It's necessary to play smart and have some flexibility. A good coach is not going to diminish that. How do you think the Mike is going to play without making a lot of decisions himself and a lot of them instantly? For some positions almost every play requires an in play adjustment.

This is not a big story from an anti-coach stance but Scandrick ought to get some kudos for not just making that decision but to do it well; especially the latter.

That's as a member.

As a mod, I remind you and others we do not allow persistent and consistent call out threads and posts.

OK, i apologize if it came across as a call out

i am just looking to see if you know examples that i am missing because i have not heard of this happening and i cannot imagine it happens on any good team

remember that this is not an in-play adjustment (which is the example you are giving above), this is a player deciding to change his assignment with another player for a whole quarter without bothering to even let the coaches know this

if he feels he 'matches up better' with a certain player, should he not communicate that to the coaches and should the coaches not know that to begin with?

to me these things all point to an incompetent coaching staff that does not know the strengths and weaknesses of its players

You had said that "good players do this at times" that made it sound like it is fairly common and is not a big deal
i am just asking for 2-3 examples of this having happened in the course of the whole season with 32 teams playing 16 games each

OR perhaps it is a big deal and does not happen

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Now can someone move Ware to the weak side? We need to activate Martez Wilson for this week.

Move him to the bench! Watching the game yesterday he remind me of Shante Carver: a guy who was afraid of physical contact. He almost looked like he was dancing with Williams!

 

[mldardy]

Had OScan given up a TD to Garçon after the switch how much you want to bet the coaches would have thrown him under the bus for going rouge.

I have zero confidence in this entire coaching staff.

How much do you want to bet no one gives a crap. Man you people whine about everything. Who cares what the coaching staff would have done. Scandrick made the decision and the play. Be happy with that and stop whining.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

How much do you want to bet no one gives a crap. Man you people whine about everything. Who cares what the coaching staff would have done. Scandrick made the decision and the play. Be happy with that and stop whining.

I give a crap. Quit speaking for everyone else pimp.

 

[WoodysGirl]

The players are winning while old Monte sleeps in his rocking chair way up high in the press box. After the game Kiffin woke up since his early 4th quarter nap and asked if we won.

love this quote by 26

Orlando Scandrick had seen enough of ill teammate Brandon Carr being overmatched by Washington Commanders receiver Pierre Garcon, who caught 11 passes for 144 yards and a touchdown. Scandrick took matters into his own hands during the fourth quarter.

“Honestly, I just took him,” Scandrick said. “We had to get a stop and I knew they were going to go to him.”

For the record. Scandrick is #32.

 

[casmith07]

Carr took multiple IV's before the game to even get on the field. He wasn't going to miss a game against the Skins for the world.

Scandrick was just helping out a teammate. These guys are selfless. Can't help but like that.

 

[Rockport]

I have to chime in. It is a SHAME that politics, money and ego get in the way of WINNING. Carr was probably on Garcon because Carr makes the most money. And it is a shame that the coaches did not have the GUTS to make the switch. Clearly Carr is sick, lacking confidence etc.....so with our season on the line....the coaches were going to continue the company line as opposed to try to WIN!?!?!?

Well said. This is just another example of how Jerry has ruined this once great team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Carr took multiple IV's before the game to even get on the field. He wasn't going to miss a game against the Skins for the world.

Scandrick was just helping out a teammate. These guys are selfless. Can't help but like that.

I was pretty tough on Carr I didn't know if his health. I forgot he had a sickness during last week. I'll give him a pass for that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I have to chime in. It is a SHAME that politics, money and ego get in the way of WINNING. Carr was probably on Garcon because Carr makes the most money. And it is a shame that the coaches did not have the GUTS to make the switch. Clearly Carr is sick, lacking confidence etc.....so with our season on the line....the coaches were going to continue the company line as opposed to try to WIN!?!?!?

I could be wrong but I think Carr was on Garcon because he shut him down the first go around and when healthy he's our best corner. Scandrick isn't getting some chump change.

 

[khiladi]

Carr should have taken it upon himself to cover Jefferson against the Bears, cause Scandrick was getting abused. This should be the new trend on our defense.

 

[casmith07]

I was pretty tough on Carr I didn't know if his health. I forgot he had a sickness during last week. I'll give him a pass for that.

Everybody wants to be the first guy to start a new thread to throw a player under the bus. I guess there's some secret way to get rich quick, or get a lot of pats on the back for it? I have no idea.

That being said, yeah, Carr was sick as a dog. Didn't practice all week. But he took fluids, suited up, and got out there and honestly did a pretty decent job considering his illness. Skins had 6 points in the first half. That second half you could see him getting sluggish, though.

I too, think it's alarming, however, that it basically took the players themselves saying hey, lets make a switch instead of Monte Kiffin being up in the booth allegedly watching this stuff and making no adjustments. He didn't even adjust to the constant pick plays with slant/drag routes being run underneath the traffic over and over again. Absurd. Kiffin's gotta go.

 

[khiladi]

Now can someone move Ware to the weak side? We need to activate Martez Wilson for this week.

How about move him to the bench...

 

[khiladi]

This is the problem with practicing against a Garrett offense every week. You never see drag routes, slants and pick plays, so you forget they exist.

 

[slomoxn]

Had OScan given up a TD to Garçon after the switch how much you want to bet the coaches would have thrown him under the bus for going rouge.

I have zero confidence in this entire coaching staff.

This board would have done the same, I like Oscan and think he has worked his way to being a decent CB. He doesn't always make the play but he is always there, sometimes he wins sometimes he loses. This board has lambasted him on more than one occasion for not being Dion Sanders, he us probably the only DB playing to and sometimes above his salary. Glad to see him getting his due.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I could be wrong but I think Carr was on Garcon because he shut him down the first go around and when healthy he's our best corner. Scandrick isn't getting some chump change.

Not nearly as big of fan as Carr that I once was. Calvin Johnson never did what he did to anyone else prior to playing us...and he has not done it since. Actually....it has almost NEVER been done in NFL history. So Carr did not compete that day...and that is what you can never measure when you evaluate someone...what is inside his chest cavity. I mean...take a 5 yard penalty....jump a route....dare the ref to call PI multiple times in one game...but don't lie down and say "do me"!

 

[jblaze2004]

im glad scandy took matters in his own hands. This coaching staff is stupid.

 

[theSHOW]

For the record. Scandrick is #32.

oh no. I have used 26 about 4x today when speaking about 32

thanks....note: my Cowboys mind is so deep and knowledgeable about the Cowboys I many times just go with my memory without any factual lookup

 

[31RoyW31]

I have no idea why the coaches didn't make the change. It was obvious before the game that Carr cannot cover those trailing crossing routes, and the pick plays beat him. We were getting eaten alive.

But players take it upon themselves to do these things from time to time. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Irvin famously changed places with Harper on Harper's big catch and run v. SF, thinking the ball would go to him on that play (it obviously did not). And just this season we saw Tony move Dez into the slot from the split end. It happens, we just don't hear about it too much.

I was just going to mention that play in I believe the '93 NFC title game. Like you said it happens. Having said that though, I don't like the coaching staff! The DL coach and the special team coach seem to know what they are doing considering what they have player wise, but other than that…..