Scattershooting rapid-fire edition

[Supercowboy1986]

Are you autistic ? I am not sure if you are serious about your post or if you are trolling. This topic has been beat to death and with the benefit of hindsight a post was already made about running backs that we realistically could of obtained and none of the rookie rbs we could of have gotten in the 3rd round have been productive or good. The only argument that possibly could be made was going for Chris Johnson.

More excuses gotta love it. It's one thing to not re-sign Murray and it's another to not draft a back in the 3rd round and instead drafting a project RT. There were guys out there on the market that could've helped this running game. Guys like Chris Johnson and there were vet recievers we could've signed like James Jones. We could've brought Harris back who is a far superior all around player than Beasley. I understand there aren't a bunch of great backups. I'm not asking for a great one, but to go into the season with probably the worst quarterback in the league IR inexcusable. Literally any backup out there would've been an improvement. You had Mike Vick who at least won one game this season, Ryan Fitzpatrick, both of which would've been huge improvements. Refusing to upgrade Hayden who is a constant liability.

 

[visionary]

What team is winning with a back up QB? Name that team for me please?
??

Well, Pittsburgh and Indy come to mind right off the bat having won games with back up QBs this year so your argument holds no water
Teams win with back up QBs every single year , just look at Philly and Arizona last year and many others

Any of Cassel or Fitzpatrick or Vick with a full off season and camp would have been a much better option than Weeden

Also it is absolutely laughable that you can say that tge cowboys handled the Randle situation properly in the off season. They basically handed the job to a guy who was barely good enough to be a crack up

 

[xwalker]

5 game losing streaks aren't fun. Players lose it, coaches and front office lose it and fans go berzerk. That's perfectly fine because the alternative is to be used to it and accept it.

Randle was always a stop-gap here. He has some talent but Dallas knew/knows all too well he has issues. They were going to milk the small investment in him for all it was worth and arguably did an amazing job there.... But he wasn't getting a long-term deal here.

As such, please for the love of baby Jesus, do not justify another murray cry with randle's release. It is so painfully illogical it literally hurts my brain to read such utter rubbish. Dmurray is gone because he wasn't one of the insanely rare backs that are worth big money. Fhilly is painfully aware of that even our fans who are apparently still watching games on VCR's are not. Dmurray is about as good as marion barber.... And who says jerry doesn't learn.

Chip may well pay for that Murray decision with his job. Not that leaving the cesspool and ending up in Austin, Texas or Southern California is going to be any real punishment.

Gotta love the complete goofballs that blast jerry for this season. Calling them trolls would be insulting trolls. Jerry didn't injure the QB and this team has shown as much risk aversion as any team in the league with it's lay down and play dead all pre-season policy. It plays backs who protect the QB first and foremost and it babies Romo every chance it can. Injuries happen but this team works hard to prevent them to it's stars.

This season is hardly over. The team needs to find a way to win games late without Romo. But since Romo is the leading 4th quarter guy in football the last decade perhaps it is reasonable that they do not yet.

The NFL is not about morality or justice, it is about wins and losses. The team need sot win this week. The how, the who, the why hardly matter at all. It badly needs a win in any way. A 2-0 win via safety would feel like a playoff win right now.

This team needs more players like Greg Hardy not less. Anyone who doesn't understand that is probably not able to make adult decisions.

Good post.

The dumbest thing about the Murray whining is that the Cowboys could have signed Chris Johnson who is going much better in AZ and then Murray in Philly. If they're going to complain, then at least change the complaint to not signing CJ and let the Murray nonsense go.

So far the RB has not been the issue. It's QB and WR.

The complaints about Hardy are even worse than the Murray nonsense. There was never really any hard evidence that Hardy did anything wrong and he does not have a history of problems other than just being a little wacky.

 

[jterrell]

Well every team in the league has their starting QB playing right now except for us, but the Steelers found a way to win three games with backups while Big Ben was out.

If you're going all out to protect your QB with the oline and RBs that are capable blockers, you probably should complete the circle and get a quality backup. Tyrod Taylor or Ryan Fitzpatrick could have been had in the offseason, this is where the front office deserves blame.

Tyrod Taylor has played a few games, losing his job of course even this year.
But in the common opponents he has played and Dallas has played he has produced a QBR of 30.
If you want Taylor here it is to develop long term not win now.

Fitzpatrick is on his 4th team in 4 years. It is crazy that no one but you seens to think he is the answer.
He has lost his job every season including this one.

The Steelers actually went 2-3 without Big Ben at starter usign 2 different back up QBs.
They also rushed back Big Ben at about 70% health.

 

[jterrell]

Well, Pittsburgh and Indy come to mind right off the bat having won games with back up QBs this year so your argument holds no water
Teams win with back up QBs every single year , just look at Philly and Arizona last year and many others

Any of Cassel or Fitzpatrick or Vick with a full off season and camp would have been a much better option than Weeden

Also it is absolutely laughable that you can say that tge cowboys handled the Randle situation properly in the off season. They basically handed the job to a guy who was barely good enough to be a crack up

Randle has merely been better than Murray.

Other than that you posted absolute garbage as per usual.
None of those teams won anything of note with back ups. I hardly suggested no back up has ever won a regular seaosn game as anyone with a brain would understand.

Now you get added ot the toolbox and go on ignore. Good job, good effort.

 

[jterrell]

I don't get guys like you. It wasn't magic pixie dust that caused us to lose those games. It was ineptitude at the QB position, following by bad special teams play, followed by bad tackling. There are root causes here.




Wow. I don't even know where to start. The handling of Joseph Randle was an "amazing job" by the front office? By what standard? I'm fine with letting Murray walk, with a capable replacement. The guy couldn't be trusted as a starter here. They should have moved on from him a long time ago and find out what some of these other guys have. I look at it as wasted resources, not as an amazing job by the FO.

Sure, Jerry didn't injure Romo, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the team to eek out a win with the backup QB. We have had 2 games where we didn't score a TD. That simple doesn't cut it. The kneejerk trade for Cassel and start him 2 weeks later hasn't shown to be all that wise either.

You don't win in the NFL if you don't score touchdowns.

yes, how hard it is to understand?
dallas paid a 5th round pick and all of 300k a year for Randle.
in return they got over 800 yards rushing and a 4.5 ypc average across 3 seasons.
that is legit back up RB production and it cost them only a 5th round pick.

who said anyone was happy with losing?
jerry isn't even in the top 10 of responsible parties for this losing.
he is neither the cvoach nor the personnel guy.
wanna be mad that hardy didn;t get suspended ok perhaps that falls on jerry but all the rest is completely outside his job description.
and it was widely accepted here by you and everyone else mcclay and stephen were in charge of personnel.

 

[KingLerxst]

5 game losing streaks aren't fun. Players lose it, coaches and front office lose it and fans go berzerk. That's perfectly fine because the alternative is to be used to it and accept it.

Randle was always a stop-gap here. He has some talent but Dallas knew/knows all too well he has issues. They were going to milk the small investment in him for all it was worth and arguably did an amazing job there.... But he wasn't getting a long-term deal here.

As such, please for the love of baby Jesus, do not justify another murray cry with randle's release. It is so painfully illogical it literally hurts my brain to read such utter rubbish. Dmurray is gone because he wasn't one of the insanely rare backs that are worth big money. Fhilly is painfully aware of that even our fans who are apparently still watching games on VCR's are not. Dmurray is about as good as marion barber.... And who says jerry doesn't learn.

Chip may well pay for that Murray decision with his job. Not that leaving the cesspool and ending up in Austin, Texas or Southern California is going to be any real punishment.

Gotta love the complete goofballs that blast jerry for this season. Calling them trolls would be insulting trolls. Jerry didn't injure the QB and this team has shown as much risk aversion as any team in the league with it's lay down and play dead all pre-season policy. It plays backs who protect the QB first and foremost and it babies Romo every chance it can. Injuries happen but this team works hard to prevent them to it's stars.

This season is hardly over. The team needs to find a way to win games late without Romo. But since Romo is the leading 4th quarter guy in football the last decade perhaps it is reasonable that they do not yet.

The NFL is not about morality or justice, it is about wins and losses. The team need sot win this week. The how, the who, the why hardly matter at all. It badly needs a win in any way. A 2-0 win via safety would feel like a playoff win right now.

This team needs more players like Greg Hardy not less. Anyone who doesn't understand that is probably not able to make adult decisions.

 

[visionary]

Randle has merely been better than Murray.

Other than that you posted absolute garbage as per usual.
None of those teams won anything of note with back ups. I hardly suggested no back up has ever won a regular seaosn game as anyone with a brain would understand.

Now you get added ot the toolbox and go on ignore. Good job, good effort.

You said, show me the teams that have won with back up QBs
I gave you specific examples from this year and last year clearly pointing out that your post is no more than the unimdiatribe of an uninformed fan so you resort to insults which is your norm

When scatter shooting please try to hit at least one target

 

[cowboys2233]

As such, please for the love of baby Jesus, do not justify another murray cry with randle's release. It is so painfully illogical it literally hurts my brain to read such utter rubbish. Dmurray is gone because he wasn't one of the insanely rare backs that are worth big money. Fhilly is painfully aware of that even our fans who are apparently still watching games on VCR's are not. Dmurray is about as good as marion barber.... And who says jerry doesn't learn.

MBIII never had a 1,000 yard season. Murray almost doubled that last year. To suggest that DMurray "is about as good as Marion Barber" is utterly laughable. And please for the love of baby Jesus, quit trying to apply Murray's production on an Eagles team this year as a valid projection for what he would have done with this Cowboys team. Equally laughable. Or am I supposed to believe that a near 2,000 yard runner hit some wall in the offseason and now he's a shadow of his 2014 self? Do you actually expect people to believe that noise?

 

[erod]

Chip Kelly is probably angling to get to Tennessee as quickly as he can. Mariotta awaits with Whisenhunt gone.

 

[visionary]

yes, how hard it is to understand?
dallas paid a 5th round pick and all of 300k a year for Randle.
in return they got over 800 yards rushing and a 4.5 ypc average across 3 seasons.
that is legit back up RB production and it cost them only a 5th round pick.
.

Talk about uninformed posts
There is a concept known as "opportunity cost"
Look it up. You might learn something about management
How the cowboys managed the RB position and with Randle was idiotic and the fact that you think it was stellar tells us a lot about your thinking

 

[cowboys2233]

Chip Kelly is probably angling to get to Tennessee as quickly as he can. Mariotta awaits with Whisenhunt gone.

Good point. If he can't bring Mariota to Philly, he'll go to Mariota. LOL.

 

[Alexander]

What is your definition of iron man?

Mine is, say, I don't know, playing with a punctured lung.

I didn't say Romo wasn't tough. An iron man is someone like Eli Manning or Brady who for various reasons never ever get hurt. Romo is a warrior, not questioning that. I am questioning and rightfully so the idea that Romo would change his trend. Only two out of the last six seasons has he started all 16 games. Even when he only missed one game, we lost with Orton and Weeden.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Tyrod Taylor has played a few games, losing his job of course even this year.
But in the common opponents he has played and Dallas has played he has produced a QBR of 30.
If you want Taylor here it is to develop long term not win now.

Fitzpatrick is on his 4th team in 4 years. It is crazy that no one but you seens to think he is the answer.
He has lost his job every season including this one.

The Steelers actually went 2-3 without Big Ben at starter usign 2 different back up QBs.
They also rushed back Big Ben at about 70% health.

Actually Fitz hasn't "lost" his starting job, he's injured, but may yet play this weekend.
Tyrod Taylor didn't "lose" his starting job either. He was injured and is probable to start this weekend.

Oh, and as to a back-up QB winning a Super Bowl, there was a guy named Earl Morrall picked off the waiver wire and won 10-11 games in a row for the only undefeated team in NFL history. Granted, he didn't "win" the Super Bowl, but I think he did pretty well.

There was a back-up QB named Doug Williams who actually did win a Super Bowl. I think Tom Brady was the back-up QB the year the Patriots won their first Super Bowl.

Improbable to win a Super Bowl with a back up QB? Sure, but not impossible, it's been done a few times.
It's certainly not impossible for a teams to win with a back up at QB.

Excuses are easy.

 

[erod]

Good point. If he can't bring Mariota to Philly, he'll go to Mariota. LOL.

That, or he wants Kaepernick in Philly.

 

[Nightman]

5 game losing streaks aren't fun. Players lose it, coaches and front office lose it and fans go berzerk. That's perfectly fine because the alternative is to be used to it and accept it.

Randle was always a stop-gap here. He has some talent but Dallas knew/knows all too well he has issues. They were going to milk the small investment in him for all it was worth and arguably did an amazing job there.... But he wasn't getting a long-term deal here.

As such, please for the love of baby Jesus, do not justify another murray cry with randle's release. It is so painfully illogical it literally hurts my brain to read such utter rubbish. Dmurray is gone because he wasn't one of the insanely rare backs that are worth big money. Fhilly is painfully aware of that even our fans who are apparently still watching games on VCR's are not. Dmurray is about as good as marion barber.... And who says jerry doesn't learn.

Chip may well pay for that Murray decision with his job. Not that leaving the cesspool and ending up in Austin, Texas or Southern California is going to be any real punishment.

Gotta love the complete goofballs that blast jerry for this season. Calling them trolls would be insulting trolls. Jerry didn't injure the QB and this team has shown as much risk aversion as any team in the league with it's lay down and play dead all pre-season policy. It plays backs who protect the QB first and foremost and it babies Romo every chance it can. Injuries happen but this team works hard to prevent them to it's stars.

This season is hardly over. The team needs to find a way to win games late without Romo. But since Romo is the leading 4th quarter guy in football the last decade perhaps it is reasonable that they do not yet.

The NFL is not about morality or justice, it is about wins and losses. The team need sot win this week. The how, the who, the why hardly matter at all. It badly needs a win in any way. A 2-0 win via safety would feel like a playoff win right now.

This team needs more players like Greg Hardy not less. Anyone who doesn't understand that is probably not able to make adult decisions.

Man get off your soapbox. It takes a lot of guts to praise the Randle situation and then to tell others their ideas are goofball.

If you don't want to hear any more crying about Murray then you aren't interested in the truth. I recommend Peter Pan if you want Fairy Tales where good things happen to good people.

Dallas chose to get worse by letting Murray walk over money. How many wins is the extra 2.5m in salary cap room worth? I say -2 at least. But at least we can tell each other how smart we were letting one of our best RBs ever walk in his prime. Just because Kelly is trying to pound a square peg thru a round hole doesn't erase the fact that Murray was perfect for this team. Randle was a great backup, thats it.

JJones and SJones read their own press clippings and believed they could make chicken salad out of chicken poop. They were the geniuses behind the OL, even though TFred and Martin just kind of fell their way.

 

[whynot]

Man get off your soapbox. It takes a lot of guts to praise the Randle situation and then to tell others their ideas are goofball.

If you don't want to hear any more crying about Murray then you aren't interested in the truth. I recommend Peter Pan if you want Fairy Tales where good things happen to good people.

Dallas chose to get worse by letting Murray walk over money. How many wins is the extra 2.5m in salary cap room worth? I say -2 at least. But at least we can tell each other how smart we were letting one of our best RBs ever walk in his prime. Just because Kelly is trying to pound a square peg thru a round hole doesn't erase the fact that Murray was perfect for this team. Randle was a great backup, thats it.

JJones and SJones read their own press clippings and believed they could make chicken salad out of chicken poop. They were the geniuses behind the OL, even though TFred and Martin just kind of fell their way.

All off season people were talking about the precipitous drop off in production by running backs who have a huge number of carries the previous season.

See here, it's real: http://www.footballdocs.com/running_back_carries.html

Murray is doing about as well in Philly as he would anywhere. No one should be pretending that he'd be doing any better in Dallas, it's just not true.

 

[Zordon]

Tyrod Taylor has played a few games, losing his job of course even this year.
But in the common opponents he has played and Dallas has played he has produced a QBR of 30.
If you want Taylor here it is to develop long term not win now.

Fitzpatrick is on his 4th team in 4 years. It is crazy that no one but you seens to think he is the answer.
He has lost his job every season including this one.

The Steelers actually went 2-3 without Big Ben at starter usign 2 different back up QBs.
They also rushed back Big Ben at about 70% health.

Wow there is a lot wrong in this post but @Roadtrip635 pointed out most of it.

The Steelers won 3 games with a backup, they played half the Rams game (a very close game) with a backup and that was a close game.

My question is what is wrong with 2 or 3 wins with a backup? You wouldn't take that right now? That's the difference btw 1st place and last place in the East right now.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Well every team in the league has their starting QB playing right now except for us, but the Steelers found a way to win three games with backups while Big Ben was out.

If you're going all out to protect your QB with the oline and RBs that are capable blockers, you probably should complete the circle and get a quality backup. Tyrod Taylor or Ryan Fitzpatrick could have been had in the offseason, this is where the front office deserves blame.

How do you know? Because they were FA or something. How do you know Dallas didn't call Fitz and Fitz thanks but I want a chance to compete for a starting role. QB that think they can start will try to start, if given the opportunity, they will pick the team that best gives them that option. There was no competition here, no one that was available was going to get a chance to do anything other than be number 2 and wear the Star. To hold something against the FO that was never a possibility to begin with is really pushing it.

 

[sureletsrace]

I didn't say Romo wasn't tough. An iron man is someone like Eli Manning or Brady who for various reasons never ever get hurt. Romo is a warrior, not questioning that. I am questioning and rightfully so the idea that Romo would change his trend. Only two out of the last six seasons has he started all 16 games. Even when he only missed one game, we lost with Orton and Weeden.

Ahh. Gotcha. Yeah, I guess the two terms and meanings are very similar.

And I agree. Why the front office rolled the dice on him staying healthy when lately he hasn't been able to is anyone's guess.

I really wish we would've brought in a more proven vet, even if we had to trade for one.