Schefter today: growing sense Zeke short suspension **merged**

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  1. ALBIT

    ALBIT Well-Known Member

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    Oh come on. Yes for sure ESPN sucks and love this type of things but Zeke can not get into an altercation with a bouncer esp knowing all the things that are surrounding him. Come on. Yes for sure Im not saying he did anything horrible. I get that. But he needs stop putting himself in these situations. Stop getting into altercations with bouncers. Your no longer just another 20 something year old kid, your under a professional contract and made a commitment to to everyone you lays it all.out on the field every Sunday. This team needs you. Is it fair? Prob not, but when you sign that contact for millions of dollars you bet your *** it's fair. Grow up and focus on winning. I had it with this team and their selfishness getting suspended for this and that and drugs. Winning is not the first thing in their mind.
     
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  2. CT Dal Fan

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    This trickles down to Jerry Jones. Players keep getting into trouble here because they do not fear repercussions. I would have cut Damien Wilson by now; for example. Jason Garrett can preach "right kind of guys" all he wants but we know JJ controls everything.
     
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  3. CanadianCowboysFan

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    You are the guy who used stupid analogies (not your first time)
     
  4. ConstantReboot

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    I would have cut Damien Wilson by now also to set a precedent with this team.

    I would also create a PR and support group to help guide and support the players on what is acceptable and not acceptable in public. I mean seriously, the Cowboys have all the money in the world to burn and they don't invest money on helping the players stay clean. They don't have stop going to parties and meeting girls. But they should have someone to call to let them know the dangers of certain situations and to guide them if they should need some help.

    Sometimes the best cure is the prevention itself and I don't know why the Cowboys or any other team don't have something like that in place.
     
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  5. Nightman

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    waste of time...............the incentives to stay out of trouble are already there and crystal clear....... random cuttings will have no effect except to weaken the team
     
  6. bsbellomy

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    I agree with, but it looks like somehow he going to get punished whether he did anything of those things or not (if you believe the media).
     
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  7. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Man, I could not agree with you more on this. Wilson is a scrub and he is the perfect situation for Cowboys to send a clear message of zero tolerance, Wilson needs to be the example, if not to the media then to all the other scrubs on the team. Cut one of Zeke's buddies the next time he gets tagged by the media, enough is enough. Jerry and Jason MUST send a message, even if not truly felt.
     
  8. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't say hes a scrub. If he didn't get into trouble I expected him to start some games again.
     
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  9. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    He's a scrub until proven otherwise. Jimmy cut Emmitt's back up even though the guy actually started games for the team. Roper, the Bears' LB Jimmy traded for, was an actual starter who Jimmy cut outright for sleeping in meetings.
     
  10. MileyDancer

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    *you're
     
  11. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    The stupidity is in your interpretation. But if you didn't want to answer the question all you had to do was say so. :)
     
  12. CanadianCowboysFan

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    Zeke didnt do anything according to the bouncer. You can apoligize to him now.
     
  13. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    :laugh:
    I never accused him of wrong doing. I asked you to define "holier than thou." You obviously don't want to answer because I think you're just parroting a popular phrase without understanding it. But I'm fine with you not answering. I'll just ask next time you mention it. :)
     
  14. CanadianCowboysFan

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    You compared molesters to bar room fighters and looks vs artificially imposed morality. Those comparisons are worthy of derision, not debate.
     
  15. tyke1doe

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    LOL! Even in your outrage, you illustrate my point.

    You are repulsed by my example because you believe that a bar fight is less morally reprehensible than child molestation.

    So a person who only gets in a bar fight is more morally responsible than a person who molests children. You (by your reaction) would never say a person who gets in a bar fight is being "holier than thou" if he judges a child molester. And that's because you recognize "degrees" of morality.

    I simply extrapolated that concept, which you acknowledge in your reaction. There are some people who are more morally responsible than other. I could have used a man who doesn't get in fights in a bar vs. a man who does. Who is more moral? And if a man has moral control over himself to which he can refrain from fighting and another man doesn't have control over himself and is always getting in fights, who is more moral, who shows the more moral choice and could it be said that the person who chooses not to fight is more "holier than thou" compared to the person who does?

    THAT IS MY POINT!!! And your reaction underscores that I'm on point. So even though you didn't answer, you did.

    Thank you. :)
     
  16. Nightman

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    Morals usually have nothing to do with getting into a bar fight
     
  17. JohnsKey19

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    I highly recommend listening to The Candidly Cowboys podcast from yesterday for some insight on Zeke's "nightlife". Seems like he has been a whirling dervish on the bar circuit all year and the Cowboys have been forced to scrub some of his messes and contain multiple situations. The DMN writers didn't go into details but expressed a pattern of troubling behavior all year.

    Whatever the case, let's just hope all of this controversy and possible suspension serves as a wakeup call and we dont have to worry about these things going forward.
     
  18. cowboys1985

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    Lol, talk about a witch hunt. Here's a long list transgressions of a clearly troubled and disturbing person.

    1) May 2016: Caught on snaphchat in bed with a girl.
    2) July 2016 Accused of domestic violence. Police did not pursue charges due to conflicting accounts by witnesses. Text messages later showed the accuser asking for people to lie for her.
    3) August 2016: Went to a weed dispensary in Seattle.
    4) March 2017: Pulls down the shirt of a woman and exposes her breast in a St. Patrick’s Day celebration. The woman, a friend of Elliot, then went on to expose her breast on her own again. Then continued to party with Zeke through the night.
    5) April 2017: Cited for speeding going 100 in a 70.
    6) May 2017: Hit his head in a accident as a passenger and missed a a week of OTA practices.
    7) July 2017: Accused of punching and breaking a man's nose at Clutch Bar in Dallas. the man himself drunk and couldn't identify who hit him. A friend of a man said it was "That Dallas runningback." No charges filed at the moment. Incident under investigation.

    There it is. What a troubled young man. Social media justice warriors fighting the good fight. Is Zeke dumb? Yes. Is he "troubled," Nope, not yet at least. There's not 1 arrest on that list. How can a man be troubled but not arrested once. There's is a huge leap from being dumb to being troubled. A leap that is very consequential and should not be taken lightly but being thrown around at Zeke by social media justice warriors and the so called click baiting journalist are running with it.

    For the record I'm not going to say poor Zeke. He's a famous athlete making millions and willingly being stupid. But part of being just means you have to point out the hypocrisy, bias and non-sense when you see it. And there is just no way a man could have that list of "transgressions" and be considered a troubled young man. Most of that isn't even news. So spare me the admonishment and outrage until something actually happens and Zeke gets into real trouble.
     
  19. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it does, unless you think it's perfectly fine to get in a bar fight. I don't know of any bars that advertise "Fight Night: Destroy our property and your opponent on us." ;)

    If you are engaged in an act that is prohibited, that's morality. :)
     
  20. MileyDancer

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    Your morals aren't the same as my morals, which aren't the same as so-and-so morals. Just saying.
     

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