Schein of FoxSports's Take On Atogwe...Mega Atogwe Speculation Thread *Merge*

[Doomsday101]

I think his asking price has the rest of the league shaking their heads. If he's asking for $7 million, he'll be waiting a loooooong time.



Given the money that they've freed up with the releases of Adams and Hamlin, they should be in fine shape for this season and beyond.

I'm hopeful that Roy Williams has a good season, but I'm not sure anything short of a Pro Bowl year will keep him around at his current salary. If you released him, you could give Austin what Roy was due to make.

Hamlin's projected salary could be used for signing a guy like Atogwe for this year and after the season, you could decide between he and Sensabaugh on who to keep long-term.

I think the team will be looking to rid itself of a few more big-money deals in the next few seasons.

If Free plays well, he'll get the money Adams would have, if he doesn't, he won't.

And I think they'll be looking intently at the money they're paying guys like Newman and Leonard Davis next year as well.

I see several young guys' salaries moving into slots currently or recently occupied by highly-compensated vets.

We have some guys who will be looking at some good pay days. Spencer contract will be coming up and if he can put together a big season that is not going to come cheap.

If Dallas could get a healthy Atogwe at a good price I think it would be worth it but I don't see it happening and at this stage would rather stick to the guys we have at that position.

Ball may not be a super star player but he is not a bad player and has shown he can do the job without being a liability back there.

 

[MWILL]

You are that dumb... lol watch the vikes game again dude... You have no idea what your talking about. You know nothing about the sport and are a complete tool.

I'm thru with you Dummy! Go and continue to slurp Garrett, I can really give a rats.... of what you think.

 

[speedkilz88]

We have some guys who will be looking at some good pay days. Spencer contract will be coming up in 2012 and if he can put together a big season that is not going to come cheap.

If Dallas could get a healthy Atogwe at a good price I think it would be worth it but I don't see it happening and at this stage would rather stick to the guys we have at that position.

Ball may not be a super star player but he is not a bad player and has shown he can do the job without being a liability back there.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Stautner]

I felt Austin would be a good player after the Green Bay game a year or two back. Miles lack of staying healthly was a problem to me before last season breakout year.

I agree with you about the contract. Dallas has been burned plenty of times. If they do find a way to sign Austin, let's hope it's during the season. Therfore, we can see if last season wasn't a fluke.

That's a good point about Austin's health. It's not really fair to say he only got the chance due to Roy's injury. Had Austin stayed healty himself he may have already worked himself into regular playing time and may not have had to wait for Roy's injury.

I agree about the timing of a new contract. As exciting as Austin's breakout was, it isn't uncommon for players to have a breakout moment and then never live up to that level in the following years.

 

[speedkilz88]

Does it make alot of sense to hand a big contract to a guy who just had shoulder reconstruction? Hand him 40 mil and watch him mess up his shoulder on the first big hit.

I applaud Jerry for not taking the bait. Notice the Eagles haven't swooped in yet?

There isn't any concern about the type of surgery he had, its a common one for football. If there is concern its on how long it will be for him to get back on to the field. Since he has to learn a new system.

 

[Doomsday101]

Fixed it for you.

And it is not uncommon to start talks the year before a player becomes a UFA. I would not doubt if Spencer can put up a big year this season that Dallas will address him before his contract expires. I know someone posted a report where Dallas will have some 20 players to deal with in terms of contracts? Last thing I want to see Dallas do is spend big money on a guy because people feel we must go to the SB this year. Building a team can't be about 1 year

 

[evarc]

I felt Austin would be a good player after the Green Bay game a year or two back. Miles lack of staying healthly was a problem to me before last season breakout year.

I agree with you about the contract. Dallas has been burned plenty of times. If they do find a way to sign Austin, let's hope it's during the season. Therfore, we can see if last season wasn't a fluke.

It had nothing to do with his "lack of staying healthy" if thats even consider a sentence. It had to do with the fact that Austin had a lot of holes in his game and honestly he still does. He doesnt make natural adjustments to ball it is very awkward the way he adjusts. He didnt run the routes the way he was supposed to and has gotten much better at that. He is also said to be very easily distracted and that once he focused he would break out.
Also in that green bay game miles only ran 10 different routes because he didnt know all of them. He had the physical aspect and EVERYONE knew that it was a matter of him focusing and learning the plays the routes and the natural motions a WR takes when coming off a line and going up for a ball.

 

[Doomsday101]

It had nothing to do with his "lack of staying healthy" if thats even consider a sentence. It had to do with the fact that Austin had a lot of holes in his game and honestly he still does. He doesnt make natural adjustments to ball it is very awkward the way he adjusts. He didnt run the routes the way he was supposed to and has gotten much better at that. He is also said to be very easily distracted and that once he focused he would break out.
Also in that green bay game miles only ran 10 different routes because he didnt know all of them. He had the physical aspect and EVERYONE knew that it was a matter of him focusing and learning the plays the routes and the natural motions a WR takes when coming off a line and going up for a ball.

Injury played a big part in slowing Austin progress, heck he was dealing with some type of injury every year until last season.

 

[evarc]

Injury played a big part in slowing Austin progress, heck he was dealing with some type of injury every year until last season.

Nothing that would keep him off the field for 4 years dude. Everyone deals with injuries and they work through it. Everyone likes to act as if miles was this stud WR that our coaching staff just ignored for 4 years but that isnt true. While he did have gifts he was very rough at the position and didnt know all of the play book.
Anyone could see that he had physical gifts I mean it didnt take a genius to see that.
I injurie kept him out as much as mwill says then miles would be gone with stanback because stanback just as much if not more physical gifts then miles but he couldnt stay healthy AT ALL.

 

[evarc]

Good point, I don't know the player much at all and can't really even think of a time I saw him play. I've seen stats that say he is good at turnovers, but does he take too many chances ?

No most of his turnovers are caused fumbles because of his hitting ability.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nothing that would keep him off the field for 4 years dude. Everyone deals with injuries and they work through it. Everyone likes to act as if miles was this stud WR that our coaching staff just ignored for 4 years but that isnt true. While he did have gifts he was very rough at the position and didnt know all of the play book.
Anyone could see that he had physical gifts I mean it didnt take a genius to see that.
I injurie kept him out as much as mwill says then miles would be gone with stanback because stanback just as much if not more physical gifts then miles but he couldnt stay healthy AT ALL.

Yes things that kept him from being able to practice and learn those injuries did play a big part in it. I agree he was raw even more reason why you can't be missing time on the practice field where you learn.

He made a nice grab a vs GB couple years back then misses 4 weeks due to a high ankle sprain that kept him on the sideline unable to continue to work and improve. The fact they saw he had the physical ablities to become a good WR is what kept him on the team but a big part of what kept him off the field was dealing with several injuries.

 

[MWILL]

That's a good point about Austin's health. It's not really fair to say he only got the chance due to Roy's injury. Had Austin stayed healty himself he may have already worked himself into regular playing time and may not have had to wait for Roy's injury.

I agree about the timing of a new contract. As exciting as Austin's breakout was, it isn't uncommon for players to have a breakout moment and then never live up to that level in the following years.

I feel that's when Miles Mania started, that's why I say that.

That's what I'm afraid of. I hope it doesn't happen.

 

[speedkilz88]

And it is not uncommon to start talks the year before a player becomes a UFA. I would not doubt if Spencer can put up a big year this season that Dallas will address him before his contract expires. I know someone posted a report where Dallas will have some 20 players to deal with in terms of contracts? Last thing I want to see Dallas do is spend big money on a guy because people feel we must go to the SB this year. Building a team can't be about 1 year

The only time I see Jerry doing the deals early is when the player has proven themselves with multiple high quality seasons. That's why Austin isn't signed yet.

 

[Stash]

And it is not uncommon to start talks the year before a player becomes a UFA. I would not doubt if Spencer can put up a big year this season that Dallas will address him before his contract expires. I know someone posted a report where Dallas will have some 20 players to deal with in terms of contracts? Last thing I want to see Dallas do is spend big money on a guy because people feel we must go to the SB this year. Building a team can't be about 1 year

I think it's very rare for that to happen in Dallas.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think both Romo and Ware waited until the final year of their deals.

And my point is that for every Free, Jenkins, Felix Jones, or Spencer who's due to get paid, there will be an Adams, Newman, Barber, or Brooking/James salary coming off the books.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it's very rare for that to happen in Dallas.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think both Romo and Ware waited until the final year of their deals.

And my point is that for every Free, Jenkins, Felix Jones, or Spencer who's due to get paid, there will be an Adams, Newman, Barber, or Brooking/James salary coming off the books.

True but we are not adding a 6 or 7 mill for atogwe. We have some very good player who will be looking to be paid and to me it is more important taking care of our own. As I said I don't see Ball as some star player however I do see him as a player who can go out there and do a good job for us. I just rather go that way than to pay out big bucks for a guy coming off an injury such as the one Atogwe has.

 

[Stash]

True but we are not adding a 6 or 7 mill for atogwe. We have some very good player who will be looking to be paid and to me it is more important taking care of our own. As I said I don't see Ball as some star player however I do see him as a player who can go out there and do a good job for us. I just rather go that way than to pay out big bucks for a guy coming off an injury such as the one Atogwe has.

I can respect your stance.

I disagree with it.

But I respect it.