Schein of FoxSports's Take On Atogwe...Mega Atogwe Speculation Thread *Merge*

[Tusan_Homichi]

I don't.

I don't really either. I think we need to save as much cap space as possible for the people we need to re-sign here pretty soon. You can't have high dollar guys all over the field. We have to find cheap and serviceable young guys for some spots.

 

[Jon88]

I don't really either. I think we need to save as much cap space as possible for the people we need to re-sign here pretty soon. You can't have high dollar guys all over the field. We have to find cheap and serviceable young guys for some spots.

We aren't signing him. End of story.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

We aren't signing him. End of story.

who made you GM & Owner? It's definitely a possibility, even if you don't think it's likely...

 

[Jon88]

who made you GM & Owner? It's definitely a possibility, even if you don't think it's likely...

Who made you so annoying?

Jerry said we have no interest.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

Who made you so annoying?

Jerry said we have no interest.

Dude a lot of stuff Jerry says is smoke screen at times if you haven't figured that out by now. He might not be interested now, but that asking price drops you bet he will be

 

[Frozen700]

Who made you so annoying?

Jerry said we have no interest.

seriously bro chill...stop listening too every word a man says and running with it...n then turning around and acting like you really know for sure

i for 1 don't think we will sign him, but there is a possibility

i rather see what our young guys got

 

[MWILL]

You really cant be this dumb... First of all when you have a guy like barber who is being paid #1 money you dont just bump him off the #1 for someone who cant stay healthy. You would destroy his confidence and when felix goes down what are you left with? Garrett is doing the right and smart thing by bringing these younger players along. Look at KO, He will be mentaly tough after playing on the st all season. You dont throw a guy to the wolves that does not know the entire playbook because then you have to run plays tailored to that player and it makes it easy for the D to catch on.
As far as miles being an accident... I seem to remember Jerry saying he could be the #2 since Glenn left but I could be wrong (I am not) He was never almost a packer. He wasnt going anywhere. Thats like saying Dez was almost a Raven.
So your gonna talk about the blowouts in philly and minny? How bout ya look at the defense that allowed those teams to put up those numbers? That didnt put the offense in a position to win by not making sacks and turnovers... So the defense allowing those teams to put up big numbers and not causing turnovers and sacks had nothing to do with the loses.
Yes the oline can be faulted for last seasons offensive play and JG fixed that problem in the offseason.
Like I said once again nothing that comes out of you is intelligent or factual. Just a bunch of garbage rambling that makes no sense to a football fan with half a brain.

Who the hell said that Barber needs to be bumped off the #1? And what the heck does that have to do with Felix not getting any carries against Washington? Hello...McFly!
Wow! YOU really can't be this dumb!

Glenn has been gone for a while and Miles consistantly gets hurt (except last season) And you were believing that he was #2 material then. Please sell that BS to someone else. Miles wasn't playing with the 1st string during preseason games.

Blowouts: It's hard for a Defense to get stops when your offense goes 3 and out, turnover, 3 and out, turnover, miss FG, get to the redzone and not score. Do me a favor and watch the games for a change.

And if I was you. I'd watch who your calling dumb.

 

[sbark]

He should play for $0 base salary with incentives like that.

problem there, with incentives just for int's, is that he would wander out of the defensive scheme at the expense of the team in order to take chances on piks .......

 

[CATCH17]

problem there, with incentives just for int's, is that he would wander out of the defensive scheme at the expense of the team in order to take chances on piks .......

Yep.

I would too for 1 million a pick.

 

[juck]

Before he got injured that would be a fair assumption.

Other than Ed Reed, what FS would you take next? Nick Collins? Pretty much a toss up.

Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA. He will be smiling at end of year.Altho I despise the Lakeshow.

 

[Jarv]

problem there, with incentives just for int's, is that he would wander out of the defensive scheme at the expense of the team in order to take chances on piks .......

Good point, I don't know the player much at all and can't really even think of a time I saw him play. I've seen stats that say he is good at turnovers, but does he take too many chances ?

 

[dfense]

Hmmm very interesting... Makes too much sense so of course Jerry won't do it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=...ad48b7c32da&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral

Does it make alot of sense to hand a big contract to a guy who just had shoulder reconstruction? Hand him 40 mil and watch him mess up his shoulder on the first big hit.

I applaud Jerry for not taking the bait. Notice the Eagles haven't swooped in yet?

 

[Stautner]

Is Garrett a family member of yours?

JG has a RB in Felix that did nothing but score TD's in every game til Dallas played Washington. HE HAD NO CARRIES! Great job Garrett!! Woo Hoo!

Miles! I can't believe you have Miles in your silly statement. Hello, Genius.....MILES WAS AN ACCIDENT!!!!! Dallas got lucky with Miles. If Roy didn't get hurt, Miles would have been on the bench!! Great Job Garrett for finding Miles for us. Woo Hooo! Thanks Garrett.

Miles was almost an GB Packer last offseason! That's proof that we have a bad OC/Assistant head coach. He can't put Cowboys players in the best position to succeed.

BTW, in the last two seasons how did Dallas end? Oh Yeah, We got stomped by Philly and We got stomped by the Vikes! With a combined score of 9pts! 9 *** points!!!! Great Job, Garrett how is the Bennett experiment going? Did any other GM's decide to make you an HC......NO!!!!!

Do me a favor and tell me Garrett will be the the Next HC in Dallas for I can have less respect for you. If this post makes you sleepy, I'll be happy to slam a book right in front of you to wake you up.

Night, night for now. :chainsaw:

How is it that keeping a guy from a tiny college and developing him for 4 years is luck. The Cowboys kept Austin all along because they thought he had the potential to be a good NFL WR. Yes, Roy getting hurt helped move things along, but the team had Austin there and ready to step in. That wasn't luck, that was player development.

 

[speedkilz88]

Who made you so annoying?

Jerry said we have no interest.

Jerry never said that. He wouldn't comment directly on Atogwe other than he didn't know what Atogwe's situation was right now. (which is bs) He then showed support for the current players at the position. That is typical Jerry not telling the media much of anything. It's pretty obvious that a lot of teams have interest in him but nobody wants to pay what he's asking. They are all waiting for the price to come down.

 

[Stautner]

Could Jerry say, "Hey bud. Now you lookie here. You're gettin' a salary of 2mil guaranteed this year. But, I'll give ya a million for each INT you get, with each INT return for a TD doubling it to two million. Make some plays, pal."

Kinda kidding/exaggerating here, but, are contracts ever setup like this? Pay for performance?

The problem is proven players want guarantees. When taking a chance on a player who has had injury or personal or legal problems a team has a little more leverage to negotiate that kind of deal. With veteran, proven players with no other issues they don't. Someone will usually pay based on past performance, and if the player is asking too much already he certainly isn't going to settle for taking a contract based on conditions.

 

[Kangaroo]

Jerry never said that. He wouldn't comment directly on Atogwe other than he didn't know what Atogwe's situation was right now. (which is bs) He then showed support for the current players at the position. That is typical Jerry not telling the media much of anything. It's pretty obvious that a lot of teams have interest in him but nobody wants to pay what he's asking. They are all waiting for the price to come down.

Ding ding

Look I do not blame the guy he is trying to see if a team is stupid enough to meet his price it only takes one desperate team to overpay for a player.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think all of this plays in the favor of the Rams of getting Atogwe resigned as he is finding out his value on the market is not as high as he thought it would be.

 

[THUMPER]

There are 4 threads on Atogwe in the top half of the Fan Zone Forum page. That is ridiculous for an average player that somehow a bunch of people believe we cannot do without even though Jerry has already stated that we have no interest in him and are comfortable going into the season with the players we have at Safety.

No other team has rushed to sign this "future HoFer" so why should we be so enamored with him? He had one good year, 3 years ago, and didn't make the Pro-Bowl, in fact has never made the Pro-Bowl or been named to the AP team. What makes this average player so special that we should overpay to sign him?

Nitwits! :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[Stash]

It's pretty obvious that a lot of teams have interest in him but nobody wants to pay what he's asking. They are all waiting for the price to come down.

Yeah, that definitely looks to be the case.

He's a very good player, but coming off of shoulder and hernia surgeries, I don't think anybody is in a hurry to pay him the big bucks he's looking for.

I think the best multi-year offer is likely coming from the Rams.

He's got to decide if he'd rather get paid long-term to toil in obscurity in St Louis or to sign a short-term deal with a high-profile team and hope to improve his stock and show he's healthy for a long-term deal in 2011.

Given the injuries, his age, and the timing of his free agency, he's in a tough spot.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, that definitely looks to be the case.

He's a very good player, but coming off of shoulder and hernia surgeries, I don't think anybody is in a hurry to pay him the big bucks he's looking for.

I think the best multi-year offer is likely coming from the Rams.

He's got to decide if he'd rather get paid long-term to toil in obscurity in St Louis or to sign a short-term deal with a high-profile team and hope to improve his stock and show he's healthy for a long-term deal in 2011.

Given the injuries, his age, and the timing of his free agency, he's in a tough spot.

Rams are down now but who is to say they remain that way? They are bringing in good young talent much like we did just a few seasons back.