Schotty is sinking fast. When to pull the plug

[triplets_93]

Shotty's no Mike Ditka. Who was a real NFL Coach.

 

[plymkr]

Serious question: Why would any talented, respected HC or even rising star assistant want to come to Dallas and work for Jerry and Stephen? Who not only interfere but are also known to be cheap with their HCs?

Seriously why would Mike Tomlin or Sean McDonough want to be here?

My gut reaction is there are only 32 jobs available. So Jerry may be a horrible boss and toxic but the pickings are slim to begin with. Also the media coverage and the endorsement deals are favorable in Dallas. But you’re point is well made.

I want to spin your question back at you, or anyone else. Do you think respectable HC candidates even have the Cowboys on the radar? So what I mean is everyone knows Jerry is going to hire a patsy and a puppet. So would it be on Tomlin’s radar of possibilities to even think about the Cowboys or does someone like him just assume “I’m not getting the job because they want a coach in training”. So I guess my question is more of a chicken egg question. Do HC candidates even think about the Cowboys knowing they will only hire weak minded controllable candidates or do HC candidates with any spine is automatically removed. I’m wording this poorly. I guess my question is: is Jerry’s desire to have a low willed HC keeping him from making a call to Tomlin’s agent as opposed to Tomlin saying to his agent, don’t call them, no way am I working for that crap show?

Chicken egg question I get it. At the end of the day I think we as fans are going to have to accept Jerry’s toxicity and mental health issues are going to keep the Cowboys in the bottom wrung of the NFL. Switching coaches isn’t going to do anything. It’s band aid to redirect everyone’s attention away from a very mentally man who unfortunately runs the team.

So TLDR is I basically repeated myself several times just to say Jerry is screwing us, lol.

 

[plymkr]

Shotty's no Mike Ditka. Who was a real NFL Coach.

On a day we mourn Mike Ditka it’s almost blasphemous to say Schotty’s name in the same sentence. You’re right. Schotty is no Mike Ditka!

 

[Mark]

Firing Schotty now won't help or improve anything.

It couldn't possibly hurt.

This coaching staff stinks. A joke people are rightfully laughing at.

 

[DCwarrior]

Change the title of thread from Schotty, to Entire Organization is sinking fast and let’s call it a day.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Hire Mike Tomlin and keep everything else in place. Tomlin can help Parker and Schotty can just focus on the offense.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

First of all I think Schottenheimer has lost the locker room al ready. Daks demeanor completely changed after the Ravens loss and so did Schottenheimers. After this loss you can tell Dak and the players are over the message Schottenheimer is preaching. Their body language says a lot. If this is the case then he needs to be let go. I would hate if they went and got Mike Tomlin. Hes overrated as a coach.

 

[Bobhaze]

For money and prestige?

But JJ doesn’t pay his HCs well at all. He lowballs all of them

 

[Reality]

Serious question: Why would any talented, respected HC or even rising star assistant want to come to Dallas and work for Jerry and Stephen? Who not only interfere but are also known to be cheap with their HCs?

Seriously why would Mike Tomlin or Sean McDonough want to be here?

I know that question started off as sarcasm years ago but evolved into a serious question in recent years, but I think the answer is more obvious than people realize.

For years the fans who think the job is great have focused on how much exposure and attention a coach would get as the head coach the Cowboys while the fans who think the job is terrible have focused on no self-respecting coach worthy of being hired would want to coach the Dallas Cowboys with the Jones family running it.

The truth is those 30 years of failed seasons combined with having star players in skill positions and the Cowboys having the most market exposure in the NFL would set up a coach to earn massive respect if he was able to finally do something many coaches before him failed to do which is turn this organization back into a winning franchise again.

What makes it even more appealing is that even if he fails to do that, no one will think any less of him because the team had 30+ years of failed seasons before he arrived so it definitely wasn't his fault.

The bottom line though is that our next head coach will likely be yet another re-tread head coach, that had success long ago or prolonged "almost" success in recent years, desperate to get a head coaching job when no other team is calling them.

 

[acr731]

I know that question started off as sarcasm years ago but evolved into a serious question in recent years, but I think the answer is more obvious than people realize.

For years the fans who think the job is great have focused on how much exposure and attention a coach would get as the head coach the Cowboys while the fans who think the job is terrible have focused on no self-respecting coach worthy of being hired would want to coach the Dallas Cowboys with the Jones family running it.

The truth is those 30 years of failed seasons combined with having star players in skill positions and the Cowboys having the most market exposure in the NFL would set up a coach to earn massive respect if he was able to finally do something many coaches before him failed to do which is turn this organization back into a winning franchise again.

What makes it even more appealing is that even if he fails to do that, no one will think any less of him because the team had 30+ years of failed seasons before he arrived so it definitely wasn't his fault.

The bottom line though is that our next head coach will likely be yet another re-tread head coach, that had success long ago or prolonged "almost" success in recent years, desperate to get a head coaching job when no other team is calling them.

You make good points, but the Jones family running the team isn't the reason why a respected HC would avoid coming to Dallas, it's because of how Jerry treats his coaches and how he takes away their balls. No coach since Parcells has even been able to hire his own staff, much less have a hand in personnel decisions or have any authority whatsoever.

Bottom line is no one is willing to come to Dallas and be nothing more that a yes man for the Fuhrer.


By the way, can you fix the server error that is keeping up from viewing our recent posts?

 

[shabazz]

If they lose the next two then come home and lose to the cardinals in Dallas. Someone will be fired.

Yup, one of the facility janitors is as good as gone

 

[shabazz]

I know that question started off as sarcasm years ago but evolved into a serious question in recent years, but I think the answer is more obvious than people realize.

For years the fans who think the job is great have focused on how much exposure and attention a coach would get as the head coach the Cowboys while the fans who think the job is terrible have focused on no self-respecting coach worthy of being hired would want to coach the Dallas Cowboys with the Jones family running it.

The truth is those 30 years of failed seasons combined with having star players in skill positions and the Cowboys having the most market exposure in the NFL would set up a coach to earn massive respect if he was able to finally do something many coaches before him failed to do which is turn this organization back into a winning franchise again.

What makes it even more appealing is that even if he fails to do that, no one will think any less of him because the team had 30+ years of failed seasons before he arrived so it definitely wasn't his fault.

The bottom line though is that our next head coach will likely be yet another re-tread head coach, that had success long ago or prolonged "almost" success in recent years, desperate to get a head coaching job when no other team is calling them.

One more paragraph and you would have been in azure sanguis territory

 

[DuncanIso]

This Nepo Baby is sinking fast. He is 2-3. Chances are he will be 2-5 in 17 days.

Yoda needs to yank him soon and name him to quality control.

Coming at us​

@Green Bay and @Philadelphia are coming at us in no time, lads. These are bold, tough teams with healthy starter QBs.
Could he, should Junior Schottenheimer survive 2-5? He is teetering at 2-3.

When to cut Junior Schottenheimer​

Can him now, I say, or when he is on fire?
Yoda, how will Junior look to you in 17 days?
To be humane, now is the time.
Parker? Phhht. There are many who could outcoach this dolt passed off as a genius.

His replacement?​

Great question.
I have no idea. And probably 90% here have no idea, either.
That, my friends, might be at the crux of why Junior is still our HC.

I think our Kid Wonder DC goes first.

 

[Birch_Wood]

Serious question: Why would any talented, respected HC or even rising star assistant want to come to Dallas and work for Jerry and Stephen? Who not only interfere but are also known to be cheap with their HCs?

Seriously why would Mike Tomlin or Sean McDonough want to be here?

Indeed.
Coach Reported annual salary:

Andy Reid. $20 million

Sean McVay. $15 million

Nick Sirianni. $15 million

Mike Macdonald. $9 million

Ben Johnson. $13 million

Brian Schott... $4.5 million

 

[DuncanIso]

Until the franchise is under new ownership, NOTHING will change.

Truth.

Shotty and Kid Wonder likely never hired by an elite GM.

 

[shabazz]

I think our Kid Wonder DC goes first.

Was Gandi or Mother Theresa fired after their first 6 or 7 games?

I'll wait for that answer, tough guy

 

[Acceptablename]

If they lose the next two then come home and lose to the cardinals in Dallas. Someone will be fired.

So because of your unrealistic expectations for a young defensive coordinator who has never been a defensive coordinator without a complete team he gets fired six games into the season. Yeah that's fair

 

[CWR]

Serious question: Why would any talented, respected HC or even rising star assistant want to come to Dallas and work for Jerry and Stephen? Who not only interfere but are also known to be cheap with their HCs?

Seriously why would Mike Tomlin or Sean McDonough want to be here?

To answer your question I believe if Jerry is willing to pay appropriately he can still sign whoever he wants for the most part.

The elixir is winning in Dallas. James Dolan is a trash owner and he had no problem bring coaches to the Knicks. Winning for one of the more storied franchises is a huge temptation.

Also having the roster talent and being in a position to win means a lot to potential hires.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

The proof is in the pudding, Jerry runs his mouth about the amount of money hed spend to win a super bowl. Yet he cheaps out on the one thing that dosent have a salary cap, the coaches salary. Smh

 

[CWR]

First of all I think Schottenheimer has lost the locker room al ready. Daks demeanor completely changed after the Ravens loss and so did Schottenheimers. After this loss you can tell Dak and the players are over the message Schottenheimer is preaching. Their body language says a lot. If this is the case then he needs to be let go. I would hate if they went and got Mike Tomlin. Hes overrated as a coach.

That's the problem with whole "culture" approach. Its awesome when you are winning, but when you are losing people will question exactly what has changed.

You better have receipts at that point.

I dont believe Schottenheimer has any receipts. He just talks a lot with minimal actual impact.