Scott Linehan's Impact

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by khiladi, Oct 14, 2014.

  1. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, I didn't answer them the way YOU wanted. I am under no obligation to be dictated by you in regards to a conversation about Linehan having to be here, because Garrett absolutely sucked at calling plays. This isn't a thread about Jason Garrett's talents to clap as a coach on the sideline better than some other coach. You can go start another thread about other qualities Jason Garrett brings to the table.
     
  2. Eric_Boyer

    Eric_Boyer Well-Known Member

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    You are becoming a broken record at this point. You already said this using slightly different words.

    If you want to give Jones the lion’s share of credit for this year, you are welcome to do so. I’m not going to argue with you because I have better things to do, like watch paint dry
     
  3. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    This has nothing to do with being a homer it is about giving credit to Garrett and others. No one has said this is all Garrett it is the fact you will not even acknowledge that Garrett get any credit at all. Linehan has done a great job who said he hasn't?
     
  4. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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  5. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Admin

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    You did not answer my question because you have tunnel vision, an agenda and you are more involved in trolling than anything else in these two threads. If I started another thread on the topic (which would be redundant since we have two active ones and a bunch more in the rant zone), you would wind your way into it and continue the same trolling you are doing now.

    IF you had answered my question honestly it would have exposed your agenda, oddly enough you still exposed your agenda by not answering it.

    Thanks for confirming what I already thought.

    You may have the last word on the topic and troll others, no more trolling me.
     
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  6. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Because our running plays aren't completely predictable and we might even use playaction from time to time.
     
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  7. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    And in the beginning of January, there were already ideas that a new OC was going to be hired.

    http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/...amiliar-face-for-advice-this-offseason-010614

    This was January 6th, right after the season, way before rumors started to spread that Dallas would hire Linehan. Lacewell was talking about Norv Turner as a posssibility.

    As Lacewell mentioend, there were too many people with their hands on the offense as well. And this was one of the things Jerry explicitly mentioned with Garrett, that he kept getting involved in the offense when he wasn't suppose to. And that he would not be spending more time on the defense, where they want his input, not offense.
     
  8. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Tunnel vision.. you mean, I'm staying on topic?
     
  9. xwalker

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    Yes, they are in year 3 of Callahan's zone blocking scheme. Also, people overlook that this is just the 2nd year starting for Fred and Leary. Those 2 are better this year and know the scheme better.
     
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  10. khiladi

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    BTW, I've already said two things:

    1. I said before the season, I see absolutely no reason why Dallas won't make the play-offs, even with Jason Garrett as HC. The main reason I said it was because of the OC change and Jerry insisting on these changes where Jason would be relegated to a role where he would have even less influence on the offense. The reality is we were 8-8 and in play-off contention in a weak NFC East, so none of this should have come as a surprise.

    I was not even as worried about the defense, because as I said, despite yardage given up, this defense created TOs despite the fact Kiffin was coaching it. Dallas would probably capitalize more on the TOs than last year. And with Marinelli, I knew they would be a little better.

    2. I said that there is no way Jerry doesn't extend JG, as much as I hate him, if the team goes into the play-offs and wins a game minimum. I would not want that, because the dynamics appear to be working with Jerry realizing that support is required where needed. That is all one can really ask in measuring a HC and the dynamics of a team. My issue though is, knowing BCs influence on the running game and his desire to leave, especially after last year, how Dallas will address is. If Pollack is good enough, than fine. If these coaches like the set-up than I'm all for it.

    But I'm not going to act like this team didn't waste years trying to define it's self and in the process have Romo scramble for his life, because we couldn't adjust to a blitz up the middle against the Redskins to get into the play-offs two years ago. I'm not going to act like Romo's health hasn't been in jeopardy because of the chaotic offense we have been running for the past 8 years.
     
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  11. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Just as an aside, because you mention Pollack alot:

    http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...acks-more-direct-role-last-year-paid-off.html

     
  12. xwalker

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  13. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    Like what Frederick had to say about both Pollack and Callahan. He certainly thinks highly of both, even going so far as to say he considers Callahan a genius. Not sure if he is or not but I'm hoping he doesn't fly the coop next year. This OL has responded terrifically to the coaches we've got now. I'd hate to see any of them leave.
     
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  14. CowboysFaninHouston

    CowboysFaninHouston CowboysFaninDC

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    yes, but the last 8 games were against team that ranked 12, 27, 4, 7, 32, 27 12, 4 on rush defense and not surprisingly we had great averages and yards against those ranked 27 and below which skewed the numbers.

    the point being that it was highly inconsistent and when we needed to rush against those better teams we didn't because we couldn't.

    has linehan had impact? yes. is all of this because of linehan? probably not. if so, then we hit gold mine and the rest of the NFL are nothing but a bunch of idiots and Jerry is really really smart GM....

    and more than any other units, the OL is successful or failure as a unit, because all it takes is one leaky spot and teams will exploit regardless of how you try to cover it up. there is absolutely no doubt how this OL has come together. take out martin, but another cold body in there right next to free just like last year and you will see a whole new result.
     
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  15. TellerMorrow34

    TellerMorrow34 BraveHeartFan

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    I'll be the first to admit I was one of those guys. I was very leery of that. I was completely wrong about him.
     
  16. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    And like he said, answering the question directly would cut right to the heart of things.

    No worries though because the cowardly dodge and then fronting afterwards speaks just as clearly. Go ahead with your zero sum nonsense.

    Quick question though: how many years do you think Garrett's extension will be? I am thinking 5.
     
  17. TellerMorrow34

    TellerMorrow34 BraveHeartFan

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    I'll also say this. And this should be the stance for pretty much everyone to be quite honest.

    If the Cowboys continue to improve and they eventually win a Superbowl in the next 2 or 3 years I really don't give an ounce of crap rather Khiladi, or anyone else for that matter, wants to give Garrett any credit or not.

    This team is improving and I believe it's going to continue to improve and with that fact there is enough credit to go around to all those involved even if it's people within the team structure that some fans simply don't like or whatever.

    Why does everyone care so freaking much who gets the credit for things like this? It's one of the most stupid, and pointless, arguments in the world.

    Teams win. Period.

    Teams includes your players, your coaches, your front office, everyone. They all have a hand, in some way, rather people like it or not. Rather you like your HC or your OC or you GM or whatever.

    When teams win they do it together and it really doesn't matter, at all, if some dude on a forum somewhere doesn't want to give certain people credit or not.
     
  18. ConstantReboot

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    Totally agree with you. Garrett was awful as a playcaller for many years and Romo had to pay the price. Now it seems a lot of the people here want to give him credit for some kind of 3 year plan that includes running the ball. That was never his plan. Im sure Garrett and Jerry did have a plan but that was to protect Romo.

    I feel the team is alot better now relegating Garrett to a walk around coach who does the official butt slapping and spitting on the sidelines. Call it addition by subtraction. I like Garrett's new role as well and I think he does as well and people should see that as a positive, not negative. He can focus on what he does best like team building, motivation, and strategizing, etc. which are all important to being a head coach.
     
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  19. khiladi

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    We never ran against bad teams even prior... And those averages you point out are, probably the same averages, across the whole season. So even if we look at the first eight games against the teams played, it would be around the same ranking for teams. We play NFC East teams twice a year.
     
  20. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Why should I answer a question that has nothing to do with the topic? To put it simply, this is essentially avoiding my topic, with another topic and saying I am avoiding the topic. If that one of the 'ideals' you strive for?
     

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