Scouting Notebook: Matt Miller's Final Team-by-Team Reports

[RS12]

Dallas Cowboys: Everything I hear out of Dallas' front office is that the team is locked in on Florida State defensive back Jalen Ramsey. If he is gone, a current Dallas player I spoke with who has knowledge of the draft board said Ezekiel Elliott is "100 percent in play."

New York Giants: General manager Jerry Reese has avoided the linebacker position in years past, but a front-office source said that could change this year. Darron Lee and Leonard Floyd are the names to watch. Offensive tackle is another area the Giants' source said could be a first-round pick; Jack Conklin is the player my contact mentioned. The Giants would love for Myles Jack to be available, according to a coach I spoke with on staff.

Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz will be the pick at No. 2 overall (no surprise), but my sources in Philadelphia's front office said the team wants to add at least one receiver and running back with its remaining selections. Speaking of running backs, I'm told it wouldn't be a surprise to Eagles scouts if they went quarterback and then running back with the team's first two picks. Kenneth Dixon (Louisiana Tech) was mentioned as a possibility.

Washington: At pick No. 21, I've been told by scouts that general manager Scot McCloughan would love to land Alabama center Ryan Kelly. Scouts I've spoken with from the team believe defensive line is a high priority but said to not rule out a big wide receiver in Round 1.

It seems like most people expect there to be a run on quarterbacks at the end of the first round, but I'm not sold on that idea. Are the Buffalo Bills really going to draft Christian Hackenberg at No. 19, as has been rumored? I don't see it. The same goes for Connor Cook to Denver.

Every year a team reaches for a quarterback too early, though, and it shouldn't surprise anyone if the 49ers or Jets try to get back into the first round for a quarterback—whether it's for Paxton Lynch, Hackenberg or Cook.

What should happen versus what will happen is always tough to determine. On my updated big board, there's no way a team shouldtrade up for Cook or Hackenberg, as they both came in as late third-round values.

As teams set their draft boards, ultimately that information gets out to people like me. Here are the late-risers as I talk to scouts and coaches:

• Javon Hargrave, DL, South Carolina State: The latest buzz has Hargrave as a Round 2 fit for 4-3 defenses thanks to his interior pass-rushing skills.
• Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama: Kelly was a solid top-50 prospect until I started breaking him down for the NFL Draft 400 series. I moved him to the first round, but there's now talk he could go in the top 20 overall.
• Chris Moore, WR, Cincinnati: As mentioned above, Moore's name is heating up with Round 2 talk.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lers-final-team-by-team-reports-jared-goff-qa

 

[ConceptCoop]

I'm starting to think it's:

Ramsey
Bosa/Elliott (Some wanting Elliott, others wanting Bosa)

 

[Sydla]

Elliott would be a fine player for us.

But once again, it just shows that the front office really doesn't have any real long term visions but that their plan seems to change year to year. Two years ago the plan was we built a strong OL, we don't need to invest heavily in a TB and can use resources to improve everywhere else.

Today it's apparently, we need to invest our best pick in two decades on a TB.

Trade the pick Jerry. Please. That's the true value here.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Hargrove is definitely a riser, many had him in the 3rd or 4th rounds but seems we would be lucky at this point to get him in the early 3rd.

I would not like to see Washington follow our offensive plan and build a dominant OL. Get more WR's and stuff so we can still beat up on that OL.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think if the Chargers do not take Jalen Ramsey...he will be the player Dallas takes.
If The Chargers do take Jalen Ramsey...I think we take Zeke

 

[DFWJC]

Elliott would be a fine player for us.

But once again, it just shows that the front office really doesn't have any real long term visions but that their plan seems to change year to year. Two years ago the plan was we built a strong OL, we don't need to invest heavily in a TB and can use resources to improve everywhere else.

Today it's apparently, we need to invest our best pick in two decades on a TB.

Trade the pick Jerry. Please. That's the true value here.

I think you might have it backwards this time.
From what I gather, the front office is thinking more long term (Tunsil,Ramsey,Bosa) but some of the coaches want Elliott.

 

[morasp]

That's what I've been hearing too. Perhaps because they've practically been shouting it from the roof top

 

[Sydla]

I think you might have it backwards this time.
From what I gather, the front office is thinking more long term (Tunsil,Ramsey,Bosa) but some of the coaches want Elliott.

In the end if they take Elliott then the front office is thinking just like the coaches.

 

[DFWJC]

In the end if they take Elliott then the front office is thinking just like the coaches.

Personally, I don't think that'll happen.
But sometimes there are some stronger voices that take over the argument for or against a player....and Jerry, sadly, can be talked in and out of things easier than he should be, imo.

In the end, I'm ok with any of those top 4-5 players, though I do have my preferences.

 

[waving monkey]

they seem to have a long term plan
in the draft you play the hand your dealt
they love Ramsey #1
they love Zeek #2 thats the drafts strength not their philosophy

Elliott would be a fine player for us.

But once again, it just shows that the front office really doesn't have any real long term visions but that their plan seems to change year to year. Two years ago the plan was we built a strong OL, we don't need to invest heavily in a TB and can use resources to improve everywhere else.

Today it's apparently, we need to invest our best pick in two decades on a TB.

Trade the pick Jerry. Please. That's the true value here.

 

[tyke1doe]

Personally, I don't think that'll happen.
But sometimes there are some stronger voices that take over the argument for or against a player....and Jerry, sadly, can be talked in and out of things easier than he should be, imo.

In the end, I'm ok with any of those top 4-5 players, though I do have my preferences.

Me too. I'll be good with Ramsey, Elliott and (I have to swallow hard), Bosa. If they select Bosa, I'm going to assume it's because they've done their homework - and then some.

He will fulfill a need we have on the defensive line. I just think Ramsey and Elliott are more dynamic. Even Bill Polian said Elliott is the best player in this draft, and a team shouldn't be worried about taking him in the top 5.

 

[reddyuta]

Hargrove is definitely a riser, many had him in the 3rd or 4th rounds but seems we would be lucky at this point to get him in the early 3rd.

I would not like to see Washington follow our offensive plan and build a dominant OL. Get more WR's and stuff so we can still beat up on that OL.

I like him a lot, wouldn't mind him at 34 at all.

 

[Stash]

Elliott would be a fine player for us.

But once again, it just shows that the front office really doesn't have any real long term visions but that their plan seems to change year to year. Two years ago the plan was we built a strong OL, we don't need to invest heavily in a TB and can use resources to improve everywhere else.

Today it's apparently, we need to invest our best pick in two decades on a TB.

Trade the pick Jerry. Please. That's the true value here.

Yep.

Two years ago - "We're not going to overpay for running back"

This year during free agency - "We're not going to overpay for running back"

This year's draft - "Let's overpay for a running back!"

I mean, seriously?

 

[Sydla]

they seem to have a long term plan
in the draft you play the hand your dealt
they love Ramsey #1
they love Zeek #2 thats the drafts strength not their philosophy

They take Elliott they have deviated from their plan. There's no way to spin that.

If the value isn't there in a player then you trade the pick. Someone will be clamoring to get to 4 to take Elliott, I would guess.

The fact they would even consider Elliott at 4 shows you they are willing to deviate from their plan. Which pretty much fits in with how Jerry has run this organization since Jimmy left.

 

[Stash]

I think you might have it backwards this time.
From what I gather, the front office is thinking more long term (Tunsil,Ramsey,Bosa) but some of the coaches want Elliott.

Then the coaches should be escorted from the room while the adults talk.

Any coaches that need a 'steak on every plate' for their offense to function shouldn't be here.

 

[Stash]

In the end if they take Elliott then the front office is thinking just like the coaches.

And doing a complete reversal of their prior set cost for the running back position.

If they draft Elliott, it will show the world that they clearly have no 'plan' whatsoever and truly are flying by the seat of their pants and continuing to lust after the next shiny object.

 

[Stash]

they seem to have a long term plan
in the draft you play the hand your dealt
they love Ramsey #1
they love Zeek #2 thats the drafts strength not their philosophy

It goes against everything they've said about their intentions to this point.

Not only would they be overpaying at running back - to a rookie no less - but they would be giving up the #4 overall pick for the right to overpay.

They would show everyone that they screwed up by not paying for a proven back in free agency for less guaranteed money when a guy like Lamar Miller was begging to come here.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Idgit]

It's amusing that people think the players on the team know who's in play on our draft board right now.

This is why I hate the use of unnamed sources. I don't fault the guy for asking, but he's asking somebody with no insight into the issue whatsoever and then reporting it as it carries weight.

 

[waving monkey]

They take Elliott they have deviated from their plan. There's no way to spin that.

If the value isn't there in a player then you trade the pick. Someone will be clamoring to get to 4 to take Elliott, I would guess.

The fact they would even consider Elliott at 4 shows you they are willing to deviate from their plan. Which pretty much fits in with how Jerry has run this organization since Jimmy left.

care to explain

 

[DBOY3141]

Hargrove is definitely a riser, many had him in the 3rd or 4th rounds but seems we would be lucky at this point to get him in the early 3rd.

I would not like to see Washington follow our offensive plan and build a dominant OL. Get more WR's and stuff so we can still beat up on that OL.

Skins are headed down the right path. Kelly would do a lot for that OL.