Scout's Eye: Randle's Decision Making, Claiborne's Success; More From Week 3

ConstantReboot

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,405
Reaction score
10,074
He was having trouble running outside, even when the play was designed to go that way. Joe is not a speed guy like DMC or Dunbar, he prefers to go north and south and use his agility to wiggle for big plays. Problem is that he is not a great at making his own holes when the creases get small to nonexistent.

But anyone can run behind this oline.......
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

ConstantReboot

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,405
Reaction score
10,074
Not when they loaded the box against him. He took nothing and made it worse.

Randle has wiggle and elusiveness. But just doesn't have the speed and the ability to break tackles. He is nothing more than a change of pace back.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,194
Reaction score
64,699
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Broadus is not perfect , but I am willing to bet that he has forgot more about the pro game that the wanna be experts on a Cowboys message board.nhebiscetillbgetting a paycheck from a pro team. How many posters can say that? Parcels has said some stupid things from time to time himself.

It does not matter how much information he has been exposed to. He struggles with logic and does not appear to put in the time studying the issues that a guy like Bob Sturm does.

People want to use Broaddus like a wimpy kid that tells other kids "My Dad can beat up your Dad".

Instead of just arguing their point based on their own abilities or lack thereof, people want to invoke the cry "Broaddus knows more than you".

Broaddus said about 1000 times last season that Marinelli was going to Tampa. To a logical person that was not logical for multiple reasons; however, Broaddus thought it made sense.

Those girls that work in the Cowboys media dept. and know next to nothing about football are also getting a paycheck from a NFL team. FYI, many fans at CZ make way more money than Broaddus. There are Doctors, Lawyers Engineers and business owners around here.
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,194
Reaction score
64,699
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Not when they loaded the box against him. He took nothing and made it worse.
I just re-reviewed all of Randle's carries in the Falcon's game. I didn't see any significant problems with his performance. I did see several failed blocks.

Randle was excellent on his first two TD runs. I didn't really like the 3rd TD where he went over the top on 1st and goal. It is dangerous in terms of ball security.
 

Little Jr

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,879
Reaction score
2,337
Broadus is not perfect , but I am willing to bet that he has forgot more about the pro game that the wanna be experts on a Cowboys message board.nhebiscetillbgetting a paycheck from a pro team. How many posters can say that? Parcels has said some stupid things from time to time himself.

I make more money and work less hours than a nfl scout. Why would I want to do that? Lol
 

Idgit

Fattening up
Staff member
Messages
58,971
Reaction score
60,826
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
"board.nhebiscetillbgetting a paycheck from a pro team. How many posters can say that?

I'm guessing 'not many.' At least not without a translator.

I disagree with you on the all 22 film It's awesome, and it's a big plus that it's available for smart fans to diagnose. I'll take somebody looking at the film and guess a to the responsibilities any day over one more nitwit telling me they know Tony Romo can't play QB because they use their own eyes to watch the game any day of the week.

And I'm not sure which 1-yard run by Randle Broaddus is referring to here, but I don't doubt he's right that it happened. I do doubt his judgment re: Randle in general, because I know he wants McFadden to start, and has since before he was able to play in training camp. And that's one I just don't see at all. Watching McFadden run is like watching somebody shoot a bottle rocket into a brick wall, as far as I'm concerned. I only like him because he can pass protect.
 

TheDude

McLovin
Messages
12,203
Reaction score
10,671
There is little doubt that there will be several posts that reminds everyone that Broaddus doesn't know what he is talking about even though he is a true professional football man. I like his articles, but some posters seem to feel like they know much more than him. I curse the day that the 22 game film was made available and created these great air chair GMs that question these professionals that have actually worked in the NFL.

I actually have to agree with him on Mo. Mo is a convenient whipping boy, but he has had a decent 3 games so far this year. Making that INT would have been a game changer though, always frustrating when you see a play like that and then the Butler play in the super bowl where one is a #1 pick and the other is an UDFA.

I for one though like the All-22 in that at least an informed person can rebut some dismissive excuses.
 

TheDude

McLovin
Messages
12,203
Reaction score
10,671
Broaddus was fired by Parcells because Parcells thought he was stupid. True story.

Parcells is a real football expert. Broaddus is not.

Broaddus tried to get any job in football but couldn't. Being a media guy was his last choice. He has said it himself.

There are dumb people in all professions. Having some experience does not make a dummy smart. On the flip side a person with a high IQ can be successful without experience. There are a large number of football fans with a higher IQ than Broaddus.

Ron Wolf was a real football guy when he traded for Herschel Walker. It was a dumb decision. Any fans that thought he got fleeced were right and he was wrong.

For anything that Broaddus says, there are thousands of fans that agree and thousands that disagree. Does that make all fans that agree equivalent to experts if you consider Broaddus an expert?


So.....are you subtly inferring you dont value Broaddus's opinion? trying to read between the lines here. :)
 

jnday

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,292
Reaction score
11,422
It does not matter how much information he has been exposed to. He struggles with logic and does not appear to put in the time studying the issues that a guy like Bob Sturm does.

People want to use Broaddus like a wimpy kid that tells other kids "My Dad can beat up your Dad".

Instead of just arguing their point based on their own abilities or lack thereof, people want to invoke the cry "Broaddus knows more than you".

Broaddus said about 1000 times last season that Marinelli was going to Tampa. To a logical person that was not logical for multiple reasons; however, Broaddus thought it made sense.

Those girls that work in the Cowboys media dept. and know next to nothing about football are also getting a paycheck from a NFL team. FYI, many fans at CZ make way more money than Broaddus. There are Doctors, Lawyers Engineers and business owners around here.

But these people you named are not professional football men. You seen to think that the knowledge that you have gained, puts you in a position to know more than a man with a lifetime of pot experience . I am sure he is used to leak out information for the team from time to time that is not entirely true, but it tabes a big ego for you to think that you know the behind the scenes working if svprobfootball team. Have you ever worked for a pro team? Case closed. brouddus provides good info for fans and I appreciate it as do many others. I can't blame him for not wanting to post here with these know-it -alls that constantly put him down when his knowledge goes well beyond a Internet forum guru . It is beneath him to argue when he knows the facts.
 

starfrombirth

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,084
Reaction score
1,419
But anyone can run behind this oline.......

In a apples/apples situation, I believe that is "mostly" true but with our starting WR and QB out, teams are putting 8 and 9 people in the box. That is just too many for 5 guys to block, no matter how good you are.
 
Last edited:

jrumann59

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,017
Reaction score
8,770
the only thing I worry about this week is that they go K-Gun against the Saints and welll....
 

Tio

Armchair QB
Messages
5,344
Reaction score
339
Broaddus has more football skins on the wall than just about anyone here. Doesn't mean he is always right or even that he is right more often than some posters when it comes to this team.

He is capable of holding a bias like any body else on this planet. He has been very wrong before, he will be wrong again and could indeed be wrong when it comes to Randle. I want to see more power in the backfield myself.
 

Zimmy Lives

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,165
Reaction score
4,631
Lots of mediates are singing the same tune concerning Randle.

Is it possible McFadden gets more touches this week?
 

Aven8

Well-Known Member
Messages
29,120
Reaction score
45,958
3 things I think

Randle is still just a complimentary back

Claiborne might be our best corner now

And I can't believe we only had 10 in on the 2 pointer! Inexcusable. Troy blamed it on Hitch, but it was obvious that Jones should have had the TE!
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,194
Reaction score
64,699
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
But these people you named are not professional football men. You seen to think that the knowledge that you have gained, puts you in a position to know more than a man with a lifetime of pot experience . I am sure he is used to leak out information for the team from time to time that is not entirely true, but it tabes a big ego for you to think that you know the behind the scenes working if svprobfootball team. Have you ever worked for a pro team? Case closed. brouddus provides good info for fans and I appreciate it as do many others. I can't blame him for not wanting to post here with these know-it -alls that constantly put him down when his knowledge goes well beyond a Internet forum guru . It is beneath him to argue when he knows the facts.

I know people in my line of work that are experts with years of experience; however, some of them are lazy and can be wrong when they are unprepared. The younger less experienced guys can come in and kick their butt at times because they spend massive amounts of time getting prepared.

Someone can't just get a pass on sloppy work because they've got a little bit of experience.

Bob Sturm is much more informative and accurate than Broaddus and Sturm didn't work in football.

Again, the whole thing comes back to the "My Dad can beat up your Dad" mentality or "I'll get my big brother to beat you up because I can't do it myself".
 

VACowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,006
Reaction score
3,896
Talking to a couple of members of [the Atlanta] front office after the game – they were surprised that Williams didn’t get more of an opportunity to work on Robert Alford, who is not nearly as talented and tends to give up more plays.

This is why I criticize the Garrett offense.
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,194
Reaction score
64,699
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
So.....are you subtly inferring you dont value Broaddus's opinion? trying to read between the lines here. :)

You figured me out. :laugh:

When Broaddus first showed up on the media scene on Randy Galloway's radio show years ago I thought it was a terrific concept to have an ex-scout in the media. However, I eventually figured out that he was often just talking out of his backside with minimal preparation.

It's similar to PFF. It's a great concept, but the implementation is severely lacking.

Nonetheless, it worked for Galloway just like some people here want to use it. Broaddus said Blank and it must be true because he's an expert. If people challenged Galloway's football knowledge, he would just bring Broaddus on and present him as the absolute expert in all things football (unless it didn't fit Galloway's agenda and then he would cut to commercial).

When Broaddus was hired by the Cowboys, the radio station replaced him with Glen "Stretch" Smith who was even worse. That guy had never prepared a day in his life. Everything was just good ole boy sayings "hit em in the mouth, son", etc..

Once you realize both of these guys were with the Cowboys back in the Campo era, you start to realize why the Cowboys organization fell apart and made dumb decision after dumb decision. Jerry to Broaddus/Stretch "what do y'all think about this Joey Galloway". Answer "That ole boy can really run". Jerry "Let's give em 2 first rounder for him". Answer "(back slaps, "Jerry that's a great idea, yak, yak yak").
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
I think Randle did alright but he does not have speed or power, he is not going to drive the pile back as a Murray did. On a 3rd and 1 he stutter steps before hitting the line and in that situation you have to hit the line hard to move the pile back he did not. I don't hate Randle but he is a change of pace RB and should not be the starting RB in my view.
 

TheDude

McLovin
Messages
12,203
Reaction score
10,671
You figured me out. :laugh:

When Broaddus first showed up on the media scene on Randy Galloway's radio show years ago I thought it was a terrific concept to have an ex-scout in the media. However, I eventually figured out that he was often just talking out of his backside with minimal preparation.

It's similar to PFF. It's a great concept, but the implementation is severely lacking.

Nonetheless, it worked for Galloway just like some people here want to use it. Broaddus said Blank and it must be true because he's an expert. If people challenged Galloway's football knowledge, he would just bring Broaddus on and present him as the absolute expert in all things football (unless it didn't fit Galloway's agenda and then he would cut to commercial).

When Broaddus was hired by the Cowboys, the radio station replaced him with Glen "Stretch" Smith who was even worse. That guy had never prepared a day in his life. Everything was just good ole boy sayings "hit em in the mouth, son", etc..

Once you realize both of these guys were with the Cowboys back in the Campo era, you start to realize why the Cowboys organization fell apart and made dumb decision after dumb decision. Jerry to Broaddus/Stretch "what do y'all think about this Joey Galloway". Answer "That ole boy can really run". Jerry "Let's give em 2 first rounder for him". Answer "(back slaps, "Jerry that's a great idea, yak, yak yak").

good info. I never listened to those shows being in LA or Charlotte. I dont recall his specific misses you called him on, but I believe you researched what you presented as an argument.

I think his first take on the games are usually pretty good. didnt really dawn on me how much better Mo played on Julio than the others, etc.

He has parlayed his old job into a career and the new career values volume and controversial opinion more than fact. I mean I know he isnt looking at as many college players as many here yet has his mock up immediately after the season. But it kinda comes with the territory and how he (and all these guys) makes a living
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,194
Reaction score
64,699
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
good info. I never listened to those shows being in LA or Charlotte. I dont recall his specific misses you called him on, but I believe you researched what you presented as an argument.

I think his first take on the games are usually pretty good. didnt really dawn on me how much better Mo played on Julio than the others, etc.

He has parlayed his old job into a career and the new career values volume and controversial opinion more than fact. I mean I know he isnt looking at as many college players as many here yet has his mock up immediately after the season. But it kinda comes with the territory and how he (and all these guys) makes a living

He has said himself that he does not look at draft prospects until after the NFL season is over. If fans have time to look at draft prospects during the college season It's hard to imagine that he can't find time. His preference is Nascar racing, not football.

I can see that he does at times study the topic that he is reporting about but at other times he seems to be completely unprepared.

I would just ask anyone to put his work side by side with Bob Sturm's work to see the difference. The funny thing is that writing is just a side gig for Sturm because his primary job is doing radio and reporting on all local sports.

It is incredible how many people Jerry is paying in his media dept. these days. I can't figure out what they do with their time. Again, Bob Sturm cranks out more info than that entire media dept., IMO.
 
Top