Scout's Eye: Randle's Decision Making, Claiborne's Success; More From Week 3

[jnday]

I know people in my line of work that are experts with years of experience; however, some of them are lazy and can be wrong when they are unprepared. The younger less experienced guys can come in and kick their butt at times because they spend massive amounts of time getting prepared.

Someone can't just get a pass on sloppy work because they've got a little bit of experience.

Bob Sturm is much more informative and accurate than Broaddus and Sturm didn't work in football.

Again, the whole thing comes back to the "My Dad can beat up your Dad" mentality or "I'll get my big brother to beat you up because I can't do it myself".

I like Sturm's work, but I think it is arrogant to assume that forum posters have more knowledge than a professional. You can find mistakes in his work from time to time, but I have serious doubts that you or any other poster have the knowledge that Broaddus has. There is not s poster here that has been in staff meeting with pro teams and know the inside knowledge that is discussed.

 

[dallasdave]

• Tyrone Crawford was asked postgame what role injuries played in the Cowboys’ defeat to the Falcons. Crawford’s answer wasn’t surprising when he said “We just didn’t do our jobs.” As well as this Dallas front seven played in the victory last week against the Eagles, it was the complete opposite on Sunday. Against Philadelphia they were able to control the line of scrimmage and rally to the ball – but there was little of that against Atlanta. The Falcons came into the game without their best running back in Tevin Coleman, but that didn’t slow them down one bit. Like I said in my observations shortly after the game, Devonta Freeman punished the Cowboys with his running style. It didn’t matter whether it was inside or outside, Freeman found holes and finished runs. Fullback Patrick DiMarco also played a significant role in the way the Falcons ran the ball. DiMarco was not only physical blocking on the edges, but he was able to inflict damage inside to Anthony Hitchens andSean Lee with his cut blocks that left the pair scrambling to get back on their feet.

• If Joseph Randle is going to have any success in this scheme, he is going to need to do a better job of trusting the play and following his blockers. Randle hit the Falcons with some large runs, but he also left some potential yards on the field with poor decisions. One play in question saw Scott Linehan send a call in that was designed for Travis Frederick and Tyler Clutts to get outside and capture the corner -- which they were both able to do. On theplay Randle even got a block from Devin Street, which created even more space to the outside. For some unexplained reason, Randle didn’t follow his blockers to the outside, where things had developed – he veered to the inside where Justin Durrant was standing right there to meet him for a one-yard gain instead of having a shot for a larger gain.
• Even when this Dallas defense tried to double Julio Jones in coverage, he managed to find a way to beat it. On his long touchdown reception, Tyler Patmon jumped to the outside as if he was expecting help to the inside fromJ.J. Wilcox. I am not sure what Wilcox was thinking, because he was also hanging to the outside -- which gave Jones a free release inside. Just by alignment, Wilcox was beaten and had no shot of rallying to Jones to prevent him from catching the ball.
• At the time I saw it from the press box, I had my questions why Jason Garrett would use a timeout right before the end of the half with the ball on the Atlanta goal line.

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Good read !!

 

[xwalker]

I like Sturm's work, but I think it is arrogant to assume that forum posters have more knowledge than a professional. You can find mistakes in his work from time to time, but I have serious doubts that you or any other poster have the knowledge that Broaddus has. There is not s poster here that has been in staff meeting with pro teams and know the inside knowledge that is discussed.

That is not true. There is at least one poster that has worked as a scout for a Pro Team. There are other that coach football in College or High School which Broaddus has NOT done.

Again "Broaddus knows more than you" is the same as "My big brother will beat you up because I'm incapable of doing it myself".

 

[burmafrd]

I like Sturm's work, but I think it is arrogant to assume that forum posters have more knowledge than a professional. You can find mistakes in his work from time to time, but I have serious doubts that you or any other poster have the knowledge that Broaddus has. There is not s poster here that has been in staff meeting with pro teams and know the inside knowledge that is discussed.

you are confusing KNOWLEDGE with JUDGEMENT. tsk tsk tsk

 

[darthseinfeld]

I thought this was a thread about the game and not Broaddus credentials

 

[TheDude]

He has said himself that he does not look at draft prospects until after the NFL season is over. If fans have time to look at draft prospects during the college season It's hard to imagine that he can't find time. His preference is Nascar racing, not football.

I can see that he does at times study the topic that he is reporting about but at other times he seems to be completely unprepared.

I would just ask anyone to put his work side by side with Bob Sturm's work to see the difference. The funny thing is that writing is just a side gig for Sturm because his primary job is doing radio and reporting on all local sports.

It is incredible how many people Jerry is paying in his media dept. these days. I can't figure out what they do with their time. Again, Bob Sturm cranks out more info than that entire media dept., IMO.

No disagreement there. Sturm is an incredible read. I think teams and "analysts" underestimate what the public really wants to consume - the accolades and followers Sturm gets is telling. I would assume this permeates through Broaddus as thinks that the avg fan could care less about inside leverage, etc. That may lead to a less detailed analysis.

I really only read sturm to get a solid analysis. I take Broaddus as a high level - team paid talking head. He isnt asked to break down every play and criticize a player or coach decision with irrefutable fact.

 

[sideon]

Mo didnt play well at all. Id rather see Corey White

Are you on drugs? Mo & Lee were the only bright spots on defense.

 

[xwalker]

No disagreement there. Sturm is an incredible read. I think teams and "analysts" underestimate what the public really wants to consume - the accolades and followers Sturm gets is telling. I would assume this permeates through Broaddus as thinks that the avg fan could care less about inside leverage, etc. That may lead to a less detailed analysis.

I really only read sturm to get a solid analysis. I take Broaddus as a high level - team paid talking head. He isnt asked to break down every play and criticize a player or coach decision with irrefutable fact.

I understand what you're saying.

It's not really Broaddus himself that irritates me per se, it is the fact that people believe everything that he says as if it is fact because of his background and position of working directly for the team. Even other media people start quoting him. That would be fine if he was correct most of the time, but he is wrong often and that creates all sorts of false narratives that get propagated by fans and other media.

 

[jnday]

you are confusing KNOWLEDGE with JUDGEMENT. tsk tsk tsk

It is clear that the man knows more about pro football than a bunch of interned wannabes that try to impress forums by insulting the man and his opinions. I don't blame Boaddus for not posting on this biard. The board is filled with a bunch of wannabe pros that are very well educated as fans, but are severely lacking when it comes to his a pro football teams works. Why should he waste his time arguing with these people? Broaddus is just one example. There are many more that are not going to get involved with fans that watch the all 22 tape and think they are professional talent evaluators. Let's face it , there are no great football minds on this board , but there is some knowledgeable fans that are think they should be hired by pro teams. It has not happened yet and I doubt it will. I Am sure that their are going to be some egos that are gonna be crushed.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I thought this was a thread about the game and not Broaddus credentials

It's like chum in the water for xwalker. Broaddus thread gets posted and he just can't help himself.

Having said that, I like the observations in the article.

 

[TheDude]

I like Sturm's work, but I think it is arrogant to assume that forum posters have more knowledge than a professional. You can find mistakes in his work from time to time, but I have serious doubts that you or any other poster have the knowledge that Broaddus has. There is not s poster here that has been in staff meeting with pro teams and know the inside knowledge that is discussed.

In general, I think this is a good starting viewpoint. But there are people who mail it in in their jobs. Im not saying Broaddus is, but its kind of like getting a second opinion and being proactive with a DR. My dad passed out one night and went to the ER. Come to find out he had a duodenal cancer mass that blocked his intestine. It was pinching an artery so Dr #1 wouldnt operate. My sister is married to Dr on Vanderbilts Board and he was flown from Knoxville to Nashville that night. Another Dr took him in the operating room and 45 minutes later said he removed everything. 6 days later he was sent home. So I see no problem questioning and doing a little digging if you feel you're not getting the full story. Not trying to compare football with cancer - just an analogy top of mind

 

[TheDude]

I understand what you're saying.

It's not really Broaddus himself that irritates me per se, it is the fact that people believe everything that he says as if it is fact because of his background and position of working directly for the team. Even other media people start quoting him. That would be fine if he was correct most of the time, but he is wrong often and that creates all sorts of false narratives that get propagated by fans and other media.

Unfortunately (and it is a defeatist attitude) todays media is not about correctness, but speed and volume. I totally get your frustration, but we all should do more to advance and support the Sturm model. No one should above questioning if they put an opinion out there, the questioning should ensure the opinion can be supported.

That said, 90% of people will continue to do what their job requires and little more.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Wait people are pilling on Randle?

Whole I wouldn't say any of our rbs have been outstanding.... I would say Randle has been good to very good.

He's getting what is blocked and often times a lot more.

I'm not sure people are watching the same games I am.

 

[BAT]

I just re-reviewed all of Randle's carries in the Falcon's game. I didn't see any significant problems with his performance. I did see several failed blocks.

Randle was excellent on his first two TD runs. I didn't really like the 3rd TD where he went over the top on 1st and goal. It is dangerous in terms of ball security.

When the Cowboys refuse to run on 3rd and 1 or 3rd and short, then there is something very wrong with the running game. On at least 4 different occasions in the 2nd half, Cowboys faced 3rd and short, and passed every time, getting sacked at least twice. Garrett, Linehan and the Jones' swore up and down that the Cowboys would not change the run oriented philosophy that was so successful for the team last season. Sounds like a fib to me.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Randle made something out of nothing multiple times last week.

Right. That one touchdown he had....it was a great play by Witten but Randle had to break a tackle to even get to that block.

IMO, our lack of success has been because of the offensive line. Guys have been hurt and they haven't had much time together this season. A bit rusty. The running backs have been fine. I haven't felt like they've left yards out there. Randle has lived up to what should be expected.

 

[Rack]

Ron Wolf is smart but Jimmy is smarter. And FYI it wasn't Wolf who traded for Herschel, that was Mike Lynn.

Walker was still an elite rb. It's the Vikings fault for not changing their system to take advantage of his strengths. Instead they forced him to fit into a system that exposed his weaknesses.

 

[xwalker]

It's like chum in the water for xwalker. Broaddus thread gets posted and he just can't help himself.

Having said that, I like the observations in the article.

It's too bad because I don't dislike the guy personally. It is the false narratives that he creates that irritate me.

One sentence from him that Randle was not perfect will create 1000 posts from fans that Randle sucks.

 

[burmafrd]

It is clear that the man knows more about pro football than a bunch of interned wannabes that try to impress forums by insulting the man and his opinions. I don't blame Boaddus for not posting on this biard. The board is filled with a bunch of wannabe pros that are very well educated as fans, but are severely lacking when it comes to his a pro football teams works. Why should he waste his time arguing with these people? Broaddus is just one example. There are many more that are not going to get involved with fans that watch the all 22 tape and think they are professional talent evaluators. Let's face it , there are no great football minds on this board , but there is some knowledgeable fans that are think they should be hired by pro teams. It has not happened yet and I doubt it will. I Am sure that their are going to be some egos that are gonna be crushed.

either you do not want to get it (likely) or you cannot get it. You harp on knowledge but are silent on judgement. Judgement without knowledge and knowledge without Judgement - either way its useless. Broaddus clearly has been around and in the atmosphere as regards getting knowledge. It is his JUDGEMENT that many question. And considering some of his very clear misses (Marinelli to Tampa is a done deal, etc) your harping about taking everything he says as something written by Gods hand is a joke.

 

[manster4ever]

Right. That one touchdown he had....it was a great play by Witten but Randle had to break a tackle to even get to that block.

IMO, our lack of success has been because of the offensive line. Guys have been hurt and they haven't had much time together this season. A bit rusty. The running backs have been fine. I haven't felt like they've left yards out there. Randle has lived up to what should be expected.

Solid post.

 

[ConstantReboot]

In a apples/apples situation, I believe that is "mostly" true but with our starting WR and QB out, teams are putting 8 and 9 people in the box. That is just too many for 5 guys to block, no matter how good you are.

Last year we still ran the even with 8 to 9 people in the box. Why can't we do it this year?

Fact is we don't have anyone that can pound the ball and break tackles. Our runningbacks are nothing more than change of pace backs that can't run it 15-20 times again. That dynamics has gone once Murray left and we failed to find a capable runningback to fill in the void.

Sorry to say but we no longer run the ball well. Thats because we failed to find a replacement for Murray. Not because we had injuries.