Screw the Rest of the League. Keep Tony

[rambo2]

I agree , but I'm sure Romo wants to start. It just adds drama. I wish Romo the best he's a good dude and a great qb. He deserves more than to ride the pine his last several years.

Romo should start for Dallas.

 

[casmith07]

A compelling statement indeed.

It's really the only logical argument.

 

[Doomsday101]

OK. I'm pretty sure I have this right (at least in theory) , but capologists can feel free to clear up if it's off.

Starting with the number you listed: 24.5 mil.
Then we have the cap savings if he's cut or traded before June 1: 5 mil.
So that means we are still on the hook for 19.5 mil against the cap.

Do you think that some of the 5 mil would have to go to a backup QB? If we want someone better than Cassel, odds are that it will cost close to 5 mil. Even if it's half that much, You're willing to dump a QB of Romo's caliber for roughly 2.5 million in cap savings?

I'd rather have Romo on the bench over someone like Ryan Fitzpatrick and a couple hundred grand tacked onto the cap.

We can talk about the team ramifications of keeping Romo on as a backup, the overall direction of the team, whether he's willing to be a backup, the (non-exisitent) chance of Romo competing to start here and all the other reasons that having Romo stay are unlikely, but the money is not the reason for 2017.

That is one year out of a 3 year deal being able to get all of the contract off the book is more than 5 mill in saving. It is base salary that is not being paid and that base again is 14, this year 19.5 next and 20 in the last year of the contract. So all this 5 mill as the total saving is complete BS it is a hell of a lot more than that.

 

[sean10mm]

All this ranting and raving is good fun, but Romo will be gone to another team via either trade or release before the season starts, and all the virtual hot air expended here will amount to nothing.

He's not staying to be the backup, he's not staying and getting the starting job back, it's all just sentimental fantasy spun by people who really should know better. Now that we're out of the era of Jerry making seat-of-the-pants deals based on how much Johnnie Walker Blue Label is in his system, the Cowboys aren't going to pay an old player they hope doesn't play instead of paying younger players they hope do play.

They're also not going to ship Romo off to the Browns or something when he can just veto the move by retiring, because literally the only thing he has left to play for is postseason success.

 

[plasticman]

I've noticed that older quarterbacks typically have two mentalities when it comes to staying in the league. One group either has to start or retire. The other group is willing to end their career with a few years as a backup. The second group makes more sense because it is only natural for their abilities to begin a decline. They can continue in the league, however, if they are willing to be the backup and then you never know, they could get an opportunity that was unforeseen.

The only thing this thread needs is " In 1971, Landry started both Morton and Staubach with success....."

LOL....what a nightmare. The best team in the league was defeated by a terrible New Orleans team led by a rookie quarterback and an even worse Bear team led by a quarterback that completed less than 50% of his passes.

 

[DandyDon52]

Somehow, he had a 79 qb rating two years ago with 5 tds and 7 ints. Last year he had one series as a warm up in which he did look good. Keep the alternative facts rolling. Romo has been average the last two years. FAKE NEWS.

well now your slanting stats to favor your view !
We cant judge tony by 2015, or 2016.
Tony wanted desperately to keep murray and do same thing in 2015, but they didnt keep murray, so they changed the offensive
philosophy due to using the 2 back, one was randall., heck he was the starter.
And all that threw a wrench in the wheel of the 2014 offense.

plus from what I have read, tony is working out like never before, and had plenty of time to heal up and rest, finally had someone
to compete with job for, and was not allowed to compete.

I think when tony does play it will be an all new tony romo.

 

[rambo2]

well now your slanting stats to favor your view !
We cant judge tony by 2015, or 2016.
Tony wanted desperately to keep murray and do same thing in 2015, but they didnt keep murray, so they changed the offensive
philosophy due to using the 2 back, one was randall., heck he was the starter.
And all that threw a wrench in the wheel of the 2014 offense.

plus from what I have read, tony is working out like never before, and had plenty of time to heal up and rest, finally had someone
to compete with job for, and was not allowed to compete.

I think when tony does play it will be an all new tony romo.

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 

[DandyDon52]

I've noticed that older quarterbacks typically have two mentalities when it comes to staying in the league. One group either has to start or retire. The other group is willing to end their career with a few years as a backup. The second group makes more sense because it is only natural for their abilities to begin a decline. They can continue in the league, however, if they are willing to be the backup and then you never know, they could get an opportunity that was unforeseen.

LOL....what a nightmare. The best team in the league was defeated by a terrible New Orleans team led by a rookie quarterback and an even worse Bear team led by a quarterback that completed less than 50% of his passes.

that was long time ago, and also dan reeves used 2 QB's with some success, and bill walsh did it with joe and steve.
It would depend on how it was handled, and for how long, what reasons, etc.
It would take a strong HC, so that sort of rules out JG lol.

But I would play Romo 1st 4 games, then dak next 4, then repeat.
Then when you get to playoffs, it is harder, you could go with guy who won the most games, or that you thing will do best
against 1st team we play. Or give 1 half to each QB lol.

I know one thing, people will laugh at me or say that wont work, etc, but I will just say this. it cant turn out any worse
than what happened the last 3 seasons, as far as playoffs are concerned.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

To still be vying for Romo at this point is just embarrassing as a fan. Not that Romo is a bum but that Dak is that good. Teams have gotten rid of quarterbacks who have done far more.

 

[rambo2]

To still be vying for Romo at this point is just embarrassing as a fan. Not that Romo is a bum but that Dak is that good. Teams have gotten rid of quarterbacks who have done far more.

Embarrassing? It isn't embarrassing. It is smart to want to keep a top qb on the team. It could save a championship if the starter goes down.

 

[CWR]

The title of this thread should be "screw tony, keep tony." Lol Like it or not this is Daks team and Tony isnt a back up qb.

 

[negativecreep]

Only 13 of the 32 NFL team's starting quarterbacks played in all 16 regular season games. Two teams lost their starter before the season even began, including the Dallas Cowboys. They lost Tony Romo shortly after they lost his backup.

Three teams in playoff contention lost their starting quarterback less than a month before the playoffs began. None of them made it past the wildcard round.

72 different quarterbacks started an NFL game in the 2016 season.

Dak Prescott was fortunate to stay healthy and play all 16 games in 2016. Teddy Bridgewater did the same in 2015. In the combined seasons of 2014 and 2015 only 9 quarterbacks started all 32 games. two of them were Derek Carr and Ryan Tannehill.

Injuries happen, we are certainly aware of that. Injuries to your starting quarterback will almost always devastate a team's season. We are certainly aware of that as well.

Suppose Dak Prescott had started his career the same as the average quarterback drafted in the 4th round. He would be either 2nd or 3rd team and might get a handful of snaps assuming Romo and/or his primary backup had stayed healthy. If you were to add up their salaries for 2017 under those circumstances there wouldn't be any difference under the events that really happened. Regardless of who the starter is, that number would have remained the same under either circumstance.

Would a trade of Tony result in better options than a Pro Bowl caliber backup quarterback?

Tony Romo wants to be a starter in this league. Let him prove it. Jason Garrett had stated when he first became HC, competition will be active at all times. Let both quarterbacks compete. The best man will start. They are both competitors. At the very least, it will make them both stronger for the regular season.

This will not divide the team, who will witness the competition first hand. earning your position is always going to be respected by teammates.

There is a far higher probability that both quarterbacks will start games in 2017. it could very well be that Tony room's best opportunity to play in a Super Bowl is the Dallas Cowboys. That possibility increases dramatically with the knowledge that an injury to the most important position on the team will not only be absorbed, Pro Bowl level performance will be consistent.

The Dallas Cowboys are not obligated to surrender Tony Romo. The cap reflects the salary of an elite starter and a player in his 2nd year. We will not have to suffer the feeling of a season lost because a single player went down. And that is a feeling we are certainly aware of.

I disagree. This is Dak's team now, and I don't want to cut Tony but it's time to move on and see if we can get something for him. If not I think it would be best to let him go and I'm a huge Romo fan. He doesn't want to be a backup or fight to start. We hit the lotto with Dak, let's not screw it up. The last good qb we had was a gift, and I'll always love Tony. It's just better to part ways now in my opinion.

 

[Melonfeud]

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/screw-the-rest-of-the-league-keep-tony.372479/page-9#post-7225426

Well.

This is a surprise.

SLAM!,,please sir, more gruel , may I and my fellows have some more gruel please?,,,

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Embarrassing? It isn't embarrassing. It is smart to want to keep a top qb on the team. It could save a championship if the starter goes down.

Romo isn't a championship winning quarterback so why must we keep him as if that's what he is? Get rid of his contract so we can get some pieces in here. Take advantage of having a franchise quarterback that's getting paid under 1 million.

And its embarassing to keep wanting Romo around here when you have a guy younger here and just as good if not better.

 

[Big D]

Has Romo ever expressed any interest in coaching? If so , I'd stay if I were him and spend my entire career with the boys. He can spend the next two season as backup / mentor to Dak and segue into qbs coach and eventually offensive coordinator. Such a cake job when you've got this oline , Dak, Zeke, Dez. He can enjoy in the success that he helped build and be groomed as the coach in waiting for life after Garrett. No reason to go anywhere.

 

[rambo2]

Romo isn't a championship winning quarterback so why must we keep him as if that's what he is? Get rid of his contract so we can get some pieces in here. Take advantage of having a franchise quarterback that's getting paid under 1 million.

And its embarassing to keep wanting Romo around here when you have a guy younger here and just as good if not better.

This is just bs. He could easily win a championship with this team and he can very well do it on another team.

 

[Romotil45]

Romo wouldn't have spiked the ball with the timeout left.

That's a very good point. Linehan dropped the ball and Dak did not have the experience to overrule him. That was a terrible call by Linehan. I don't blame Dak for following orders but Romo knows better. Having said that as much as I love Romo ( I wanted him to start as soon as he was healthy.) It is time to move on. Looking at it from a GM perspective no team will offer anything significant for Romo because they know keeping him will continue to be a distraction in Dallas. They will simply wait until after June 1 when he is cut to make him an offer. I do not see Romo staying on the team unless Jerry decides Romo is going to be the week one starter and that would be a step backwards in Daks mind anyways for his future development. Would I love for Romo to stay and get another shot ? Absolutely, but not at the risk of affecting Daks development. Nor do I want to see Romo languishing on the bench with what little time he has left. I've never cared for " Jerry " the GM but I've always respected " Jerry" the person. " Jerry" the person will let Romo walk if he cannot swing a trade that is a win win for both Romo and the team. I think it is very unlikely any team trades for him. So I fully expect a June 1 cut. Those of you calling for Romo to remain as a backup not wanting to cut him loose because Dak may regress or be injured I'm sorry but I have too much respect for Romo to watch that, it was hard enough to watch it last season knowing the better player was on the bench.

 

[Romotil45]

Keeping Romo at reduced salary, say 5m, with huge per game incentives for starting is the best case scenario........we get 9m in instant cap relief, Tony gets to stay a Cowboy in DAL with his 3 young kids and only has to worry about his backwards cap and not a broken back....... Dak has the best bak up in the League and a helluva mentor

I will give Romo 5m per year for several years to bak up Dak

I would loose all respect for Romo if he did that. He said he is a starter and he expects to be one anything less and he's not who I though he was. If I were Romo and forced to stay as a backup and Dak goes down I would throw balls at Jason Wittens feet all night long. That's exactly what Jerry should expect if he doesn't cut Romo loose.

 

[Nightman]

I would loose all respect for Romo if he did that. He said he is a starter and he expects to be one anything less and he's not who I though he was. If I were Romo and forced to stay as a backup and Dak goes down I would throw balls at Jason Wittens feet all night long. That's exactly what Jerry should expect if he doesn't cut Romo loose.

Tony isn't a drama queen....his third kid is due in August......would he rather be in Frisco or Buffalo

He has made 130m and has had 5 or 6 surgeries.........you think he should add a couple concussions

Being Dak's bak up is a great gig.....5m+ to hold a tablet and stay in DAL for 3-4 more years is smart

 

[DallasEast]

Has Romo ever expressed any interest in coaching?

I would say he has never stated any significant preference of some day becoming a coach in the past. Many athletes have the natural traits for coaching but the vast majority do not transition into the coaching field after their playing career ends. The ones that do make the transition have the same passion for coaching a sport as they did playing a sport.

Romo loves football, along with other sports, and is a really good instructor and leader but he never seemed to me as the coach type. The same can be said of a LOT of guys. Take Ray Lewis, for example. Lewis is fiery, supremely knowledgeable, charismatic and a natural commander that others follow. I've never pictured him as a professional coach. On the other hand, Mike Singletary is more modest than Lewis but has all of the same qualities. I always pictured him as an NFL coach after he retired.

I think some observers should stop a moment and ponder whether Romo cares about being a coach. If coaching doesn't seem like a priority for his life, it probably isn't.