screw this 3-4 crap

[lane]

ellis
ferguson
glover
canty

ware
shanle
dat


henry
beriault
williams
newman

let's roll.

 

[blindzebra]

ellis
ferguson
glover
canty

ware
shanle
dat
fowler

henry
beriault
williams
newman

let's roll.

That looks like a 4-4 and a penalty to me.

 

[ratpower]

ellis
ferguson
glover
canty

ware
shanle
dat


henry
beriault
williams
newman

let's roll.

Spears, Coleman, Pepper, Ratliff...etc provides some depth. Glover and Ferguson in the middle makes for a nice combo that offenses will have to deal with...

Our LB's are a weakness so keep more of them on the bench....Sub out Shanle and sub in James and the front seven are ready... (also take beriault out for now...)

 

[lane]

shanle is a ballplayer....... he stays
lynn scott or beriault at fs
spears can spell canty

 

[Woods]

I don't think BP thought a couple of months ago he'd have the type of depth he currently has on the DL.

And BP thinks we're short on the depth at OLB.

Hmmmmm . . . . . Maybe a little more 4-3 mixed in with a base 3-4 defense this year than we originally thought? (Don't get too excited Nors.)

 

[NYCowboy22]

I think we will see quite a bit of 4-3 in order to keep our best players on the field.

 

[ratpower]

shanle is a ballplayer....... he stays
lynn scott or beriault at fs
spears can spell canty

Shanle is ok so far but the guy is not making plays...he needs to step out of his Al Singleton impersonations from time to time...

Fowler actually hits people and Burnett will be good...I hope Shanle picks it up and we see what BP likes about him soon, otherwise give me someone else.

Also, Cut Lynn Scott and move on with Izell, Davis and Beriault...

 

[BEASToftheEAST]

Dat at Sam, or Shanle? Either way, I don't like it. We drafted a bunch of 3-4 players to make this transition, why stop? Let's get all these rookies some playing time, develop them, and see if we can't build a great defense for the future?

 

[the_h0wey]

I think we will end up playing in the 4-3 for the most part this year...

 

[Smith22]

Whatever defense we run, there is no question our strength is along the DL, not LB'er. It just is. Glover, Ellis and Fergy followed by young guns like Spears and Canty. At LB'er we have Dat with young guns in Ware and Burnett.

5-3 advantage DL. Let ware sub in along the DL and DE and DL wins hands down.

 

[Woods]

Whatever defense we run, there is no question our strength is along the DL, not LB'er. It just is. Glover, Ellis and Fergy followed by young guns like Spears and Canty. At LB'er we have Dat with young guns in Ware and Burnett.

5-3 advantage DL. Let ware sub in along the DL and DE and DL wins hands down.

I agree 100%.

I think this poses a conundrum to BP.

 

[junk]

Dat at Sam, or Shanle? Either way, I don't like it. We drafted a bunch of 3-4 players to make this transition, why stop? Let's get all these rookies some playing time, develop them, and see if we can't build a great defense for the future?

Other than Canty, who played which draft pick played full time 3-4 in college?

Answer: None. They were all projected as 3-4 players and came from a 4-3 background.

Anyway, I don't think its really going to be a true 4-3, it'll be more a 3-4 type thing with 4 men on the line from what I hear in press conferences.

 

[dbair1967]

ellis
ferguson
glover
canty

ware
shanle
dat


henry
beriault
williams
newman

let's roll.

I really think Ware would be a huge liability as a 4-3 OLB...h'd also be stuck in a position where he'd rarely do what we drafted him to do, sack QB's...he's either a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 DE

David

 

[Woods]

Other than Canty, who played which draft pick played full time 3-4 in college?

Answer: None. They were all projected as 3-4 players and came from a 4-3 background.

Anyway, I don't think its really going to be a true 4-3, it'll be more a 3-4 type thing with 4 men on the line from what I hear in press conferences.

Can you explain this to me? I read this elsewhere as well.

Not being funny, but with 4 guys on the line, isn't that basically a 4-3 defense?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Can you explain this to me? I read this elsewhere as well.

Not being funny, but with 4 guys on the line, isn't that basically a 4-3 defense?

Well we're going to be using a 4-2-5 a lot and a 4-1-6 some.

 

[Woods]

Well we're going to be using a 4-2-5 a lot and a 4-1-6 some.

Ahhhh . . . . I guess with Roy Williams that extra DB is almost like a LB anyway in a 4-2-5.

Thanks MW.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Ahhhh . . . . I guess with Roy Williams that extra DB is almost like a LB anyway in a 4-2-5.

Thanks MW.

True Woods. I've said the same thing.

 

[junk]

Can you explain this to me? I read this elsewhere as well.

Not being funny, but with 4 guys on the line, isn't that basically a 4-3 defense?

Gap assignments differ in a 4-3 and 3-4. I would imagine that is what Parcells is alluding to.

More two gap assignments along the DL as opposed to giving them one gap assignments and giving LBers gap assignments.

Once again, guess work on my part.

 

[joseephuss]

I really think Ware would be a huge liability as a 4-3 OLB...h'd also be stuck in a position where he'd rarely do what we drafted him to do, sack QB's...he's either a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 DE

David

I agree. This early in his career with his size, he may struggle as a full time 4-3 DE, so he is best suited for 3-4 OLB. Although he is still learning that position. His progress is going to be fun to watch.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree. This early in his career with his size, he may struggle as a full time 4-3 DE, so he is best suited for 3-4 OLB. Although he is still learning that position. His progress is going to be fun to watch.

I agree but looking at his size I see it is about the same as Haley both in terms of height and weight so I would not rule out his effectiveness in the 4-3 based purely on his size