News: SDFW: Dallas Cowboys Hot Take: Leighton Vander Esch, worse than Jaylon Smith

[starman22]

Way to deflect. Can you or can you not show me his impact plays from the last 2 years.

You mean instead of the list he posted showing the number of plays, you want him to search and find the actual plays?

Wow.

 

[Risen Star]

Vander Esch is bad. Smith is worse.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

I am going to guess the Cowboys are going to draft a few LBs this year. Good news is that LBs are one of the easier positions to find talent in the later rounds, I think.

 

[INCowboysFan]

You mean instead of the list he posted showing the number of plays, you want him to search and find the actual plays?

Wow.

apologies to @CalPolyTechnique . The chart you showed did not show up for me initially.

 

[jblaze2004]

exactly what I've been saying this. Jaylon gets all the flack and people act like LVE was good when he actually played last season. At least Jaylon actually played the games. Meanwhile LVE will have a shorten career due to his neck. Its not going to magically get better. We need to let him go when his contract is up.

 

[jblaze2004]

I’ve said many times that LVE needs to show up this season, or IMO, he’s a first-round bust.

Really good in 2018 followed by a massive drop off.

Facts. Dude is a first round bust so far. We shouldn't even of touched him in the first round with his neck situation.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Way to deflect. Can you or can you not show me his impact plays from the last 2 years.

Are you disputing Storm’s splash play analysis? Go rewatch the games and report back.

Let me guess...”okay, well, that’s one. Now show me the rest.”

 

[INCowboysFan]

Are you disputing Storm’s splash play analysis? Go rewatch the games and report back.

Let me guess...”okay, well, that’s one. Now show me the rest.”

As I said in another post, my apologies to you. Your chart did not show up for me initially.

 

[Ozone22]

I do believe a lot of us saw that with our own eyes that the wolfman hasn't been playing up to par. The LB's core could use a major overhaul this year.

 

[ondaedg]

Vander Esch is bad. Smith is worse.

I agree especially when you factor in cap to the equation.

 

[JBond]

Dallas Cowboys Hot Take: Leighton Vander Esch, worse than Jaylon Smith

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Maybe I am crazy....

Seems his initial reads were solid and then he would change his mind mid play to cover a mistake by the line or Jaylon.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dallas Cowboys Hot Take: Leighton Vander Esch, worse than Jaylon Smith

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LVE has been bad. For two years. 2019 he was playing injured. This year, AFAIK, he was just bad. It's so weird. He showed so much promise as a rookie.

With Jaylon, it was apparent the leg never fully healed, and started regressing in 2019. There's an understandable reason for his drop off.

With LVE, I just don't know what it was in 2020. He was just bad. Maybe the scheme was a poor fit, or he wasn't mentally up for it. Maybe he plays better under Quinn.

I have more hope for the future with LVE than Jaylon, as I have a *reason* why Jaylon can't play, and I don't for LVE. But that hope for LVE ain't much hope. It's more just a possibility.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Two solid talents coming out with injury concerns we used 1st and 2nd round picks on that have added to our questionable high drafts picks we’ve made on defense this era.

And cumulatively have been major contributing factors preventing this franchise from more success without a better defense.

Defensive drafts from 2016-2019 have been a disaster, particularly the high picks. We got some ok value in the 6th, but 1-5, we got an ocean of mediocrity.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Maybe I am crazy....

Seems his initial reads were solid and then he would change his mind mid play to cover a mistake by the line or Jaylon.

LVE was injured in 2019.
2020, he seemed healthy once he got on the field. The only hope on his poor play is that the scheme and poor play around him left him in a tough situation that he couldn't overcome, and adapted poorly to, so that a change of scheme and situation this year would show us a player who could play.
It's not much of a hope, but it's possible.

 

[Aviano90]

Both of them make me want to puke.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I’ve said many times that LVE needs to show up this season, or IMO, he’s a first-round bust.

Really good in 2018 followed by a massive drop off.

In 2018, Jerry was looking like a genius with his risk picks in Gregory, LVE, and Jaylon all panning out. Now, it's only looking like we'll get something from Gregory, the lowest pick of the 3.

 

[Praxit]

...in the bigger scoop of things, maybe getting Quinn was good idea. I'm sure his input will be valid. He wants guys that can play. Time to clean up?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What have we learned? Please stop drafting players with known injuries.

Jaylon got away with freak athletic ability in college however since his injury lacks mobility and has zero football intuition

LVE is one good hit away from a career ending injury if not worse. Think he plays scared knowing this.

Sean Lee....gifted player with great knowledge and instincts however his body let him down. Such a shame as his career could have been beastly but he needs to retire and coach. He's out there just to fill a spot at this point

However a good Dline could make them look better. Better not good...

Particularly at linebacker

 

[Dre11]

I said when said they were moving him to MLB that it was a mistake.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

exactly what I've been saying this. Jaylon gets all the flack and people act like LVE was good when he actually played last season. At least Jaylon actually played the games. Meanwhile LVE will have a shorten career due to his neck. Its not going to magically get better. We need to let him go when his contract is up.

What are you talking about? Everyone’s been trashing LVE, Lee, and Jaylon all year. All these bums need to go.