Season comes down to Dak

[cityochamps]

Dilfer, Johnson and Hostetler weren’t the differences leading their teams . It was their generational elite defenses .

And Namath shouldn’t be included in this group as he was a HOFamer who did lead his team and was a huge difference .

Namath for a few years in his prime was one of the best QB in his era. Injuries set in and his career stats don’t measure up but for about 5 years he was one of the best and Elite.

I suppose you may have had to live the era to appreciate Broadways impact and talent level.

Your first sentence is exactly right and is kinda of the point.

As far as Broadway Joe yeah I was an 8th grader playing organized football since 1st grade was in to the NFL then 68-69, so what talent level or speaking of other than predicting a win over the colts and wearing fur coats he threw 28 int' twice in his "illustrious" career, great college player at Bama, had a great rookie year and was the first to throw for 4000 yards, but other than the list of one of the worst QB's to make it to the big dance he is also on my list of QB's who don't even deserve to be in the HOF and I'll go one further and say he is in the top 10 15 of all players not just QB's, who don't belong in the HOF at all. If he was your hero that all good though!

 

[CowboyRoy]

Run the ball. Play great D. Don’t turn the ball over. THAT is the recipe for championship football.

Always has been. Always will be. Dak does not need to put up elite stats to lead this team to a SB. He does need to be smart with the football, and he and Kellen need to lean on the ground game.

This team absolutely can represent the NFC in the SB. They have the talent and roster to do it— the challenge they have (and always seem to struggle with) — is not beating themselves with mistakes, penalties, and slow, flat starts that get them behind the 8 ball.

Cowboys are the 3rd best team in the NFC and will be on the road. Both Eagles and Niners are better. Making it to the SB for the Cowboys is a tall task and odds are stacked against them. Defense goes into the toilet at times and has trouble stopping the run. Running is what SF and Eagles do well.

 

[cityochamps]

In Dak's career, his win rate is over 95% IF:
Cowboys Rush for over 100 yards
&
Opponent is held to less than 140 yards rushing

They failed both categories in the playoff loss to the 49ers.

I'm sorry man I generally love your posts, they are typically lucid and very detailed, but I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing here. If it even matters at all.Maybe you are just making a comment and that's cool also.

 

[cnuball21]

Well then do you have any info on those stats you are throwing around?

Yea, you can look them up just like anyone on here. And what does taking statistics classes have to with anything? That was incredibly random. A 10 year old could take the info I’ve provided and understand what it means.

I very rarely make claims without any kind of stat / metric to back up what I’m saying. There’s a lot of great info out there so no reason to use the “eyeball test” any more. Incredibly shallow approach IMO.

 

[Diehardblues]

Your first sentence is exactly right and is kinda of the point.

As far as Broadway Joe yeah I was and 8th grader playing organized football since 1st grade was in to the NFL then 68-69, so what talent level or speaking of other than predicting a win over the colts and wearing fur coats he threw 28 int' twice in his "illustrious" career, great college player at Bama, had a great rookie year and was the first to throw for 4000 yards, but other than the list of one of the worst QB's to make it to the big dance he is also on my list of QB's who don't even deserve to be in the HOF and I'll go one further and say he is in the top 10 15 of all players not just QB's, who don't belong in the HOF. If he was your hero that all good though!

Not only was Namath first player to throw for 4,000 yards he also was 2 time MVP leading the league in passing twice. Something bus drivers never do.

For 4 or 5 years he was one of the most prolific passers in the league in an era when passing wasn’t what it is now. You had to see him play.

Had a huge arm, big talent until injuries crippled him. Career stats don’t tell the entire story. Fortunately the HOF committee also saw his talent level and impact on the game with his induction.

 

[CowboyFrog]

That 2007 d-line was fearsome for sure. I don't have a clear recollection of the 2011 d but they were pretty bad in ppg (25th). And your right all his playoff wins came those 2 years. My point is to call him average is nonsensical given his achievements. He was up and down, streaky, had poor stretches and even poor years, but he cashed it in not once but twice.

That 2011 defense was injured all year and got healthy before the playoffs. They tore up the playoffs almost killed TB#12 in the SB

 

[xwalker]

I'm sorry man I generally love your posts, they are typically lucid and very detailed, but I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing here. If it even matters at all.Maybe you are just making a comment and that's cool also.

My point is that Dak is good if the other players do their jobs.

The same could be said about Aikman.

If you need a QB to overcome issues when other areas of the team underperform, then you need a Staubach type over an Aikman type QB.

 

[john van brocklin]

Dak is not Mahomes or Brady but there have been plenty of average or below average quarterbacks lead a team to the big dance, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler, even Joe Namath in the big picture wasn't considered great and there are 1/2 dozen others who weren't as good as Dak or Romo for that matter numbers wise. This team has all the ingredients to make a serious run if we play to our strengths and do not make mistakes/turnovers, Jerry was right to call out Dak, he has 9 INt's in 8 games this year, he only had 10 in 16 games in 2021, we need Dak to not force the ball, play smarter take a loss or run for 4 yards and slide but don't force the ball into coverage, you don't find that open guy throw it away. Our offensive strength this year is our running game by far, control the line of scrimmage the pass will be there at some point, we seem to be doing better on the penalty's, we have a top 3 defense and a very good special teams' unit, we have play makers everywhere you look and we have a top 6 or 7 QB "IMO" who just needs to manage the game and not make mistakes.

With most teams it comes down to the QB as that's the most vital position on the field.

 

[75boyz]

It's Kellen's fault.

 

[Diehardblues]

With most teams it comes down to the QB as that's the most vital position on the field.

I don’t think anyone would question QB is most important position.

But except for a handful of Elite QB’s in the league at any given time who elevate everyone around them most teams build around average to above average QB’s who are more dependent on a supporting cast.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I don’t think anyone would question QB is most important position.

But except for a handful of Elite QB’s in the league at any given time who elevate everyone around them most teams build around average to above average QB’s who are more dependent on a supporting cast.

Thats the problem cant you see!!! why dont we just get an elite QB what the hell have we been waiting for!!!..lol

 

[fairviewfarmer]

I'd rather have Dak than Kirk Cousins or Matt Ryan.

 

[Diehardblues]

Thats the problem cant you see!!! why dont we just get an elite QB what the hell have we been waiting for!!!..lol

I think we’d all like to have one of the Elite QB’s. But realistically it just isn’t in the cards for most teams.

Most franchises have to build around the next group of QB . That’s what we have .

 

[john van brocklin]

Thats the problem cant you see!!! why dont we just get an elite QB what the hell have we been waiting for!!!..lol

They are having a sale on Elite QBs at the Walmart.
I will have a half dozen shipped to Dallas.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Maybe for two postseasons.. but overall? Not so much. He was one and one in 4 of his 6 trips to the playoffs. We all know what happened in the other two. But Eli had four playoff games in which he failed to reach 200 passing yards. His career completion rate in the playoffs was 60.5% and his second Super Bowl run should have ended in San Francisco if Kyle Williams could just field a punt.

Check this out.. Dak's career completion percentage is 60.9%.. both he and Eli have a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.. Dak has a higher yards per attempt 7.2 to 6.9 and an overall higher passer rating 87.9 to 87.4. Oh and Dak has yet to pass for under 226 yards in a playoff game.

Long story short.. Dak has performed slightly better overall in the playoffs than Eli.. but has a losing record because he hasn't gone to war with a superior defense in the playoffs yet. Hopefully that changes this year.

You made a reasonable argument up to the point where you said overall Dak has done slightly better in the playoffs than Eli.

 

[cityochamps]

They are having a sale on Elite QBs at the Walmart.
I will have a half dozen shipped to Dallas.

Can it be here by Christmas Eve Though?

 

[Captain-Crash]

Your first sentence is exactly right and is kinda of the point.

As far as Broadway Joe yeah I was an 8th grader playing organized football since 1st grade was in to the NFL then 68-69, so what talent level or speaking of other than predicting a win over the colts and wearing fur coats he threw 28 int' twice in his "illustrious" career, great college player at Bama, had a great rookie year and was the first to throw for 4000 yards, but other than the list of one of the worst QB's to make it to the big dance he is also on my list of QB's who don't even deserve to be in the HOF and I'll go one further and say he is in the top 10 15 of all players not just QB's, who don't belong in the HOF at all. If he was your hero that all good though!

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

If a season comes down to your QB you’re probably not going to get very far and you’re not that good a team. Aaron Rodgers has only won one championship, because too many seasons came down to him. Dan Marino never won a championship because seasons came down to him.

Excellent Post. How is Football the "Ultimate Team Game" yet everything depends on the Qb? You can't have it both ways.

I mean its silly on its face. Who's Josh Allen without Diggs ? Who's Mahomes without Kelce ? Burrow without Chase? Take away those players and where are those QB'S

Where would Aikman be without Irvin? Hell where's either one of them without Moose and Emmitt ? Where 's Emmitt without the Great Wall of Dallas.

No L.A./ Big Nate/ Eric Williams ? Were are we. Stuck at 2 Super Bowls Maybe no Super Bowls or Do you think Roger won those Super Bowls By Himself ?????

 

[KJJ]

Excellent Post. How is Football the "Ultimate Team Game" yet everything depends on the Qb? You can't have it both ways.

I mean its silly on its face. Who's Josh Allen without Diggs ? Who's Mahomes without Kelce ? Burrow without Chase? Take away those players and where are those QB'S

Where would Aikman be without Irvin? Hell where's either one of them without Moose and Emmitt ? Where 's Emmitt without the Great Wall of Dallas.

No L.A./ Big Nate/ Eric Williams ? Were are we. Stuck at 2 Super Bowls Maybe no Super Bowls or Do you think Roger won those Super Bowls By Himself ?????

The QB influences the outcome of games more than any other position but you still need a solid team around your QB to win a championship. Solid teams have won championships without having a great QB. There’s some pretty average QBs like Mark Rypien, Jim McMahon, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Nick Foles that have won Super Bowls. As for your comment about Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin. Where would Irvin without Aikman? They needed each other. A QB and receiver go hand-in-hand.

 

[RonnieT24]

No it’s being a glass half full type person vs being a half glass empty person like you. Now tell me, which is the better attitude?

Yeah I find it far more disturbing at the number of people who come here every day to hate on "their" team than I care about people who come here rooting for them.