Season to date– PFF grades...

[dstovall5]

I see some of these grades have more to do with name recognition than the players actual play, smh.

 

[Denim Chicken]

[*]There's no way Hatcher is the best DT in the game.

Have you been watching football?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just remember that pff 'grades' are not an objective measure. Some guy watches a game for a player. For any play they will assign a grade ranging from -3 to 3 and add them up. Voila you have a grade.

Personally I think it's crap. I would rather watch the game and form my own opinion.

 

[CaptainCreed]

Here are Hayden's week to week grades:

+2.7
-1.1
-2.1
-3.2
-0.8
-3.7
-3.5

Likely explains rotation of Nevis, Rayford, etc and churning of roster, adding Austin. Hayden just isn't cutting it and a friend of mine whose is a Panthers fan saw him starting for Dallas DL and said good luck with him lol. Also said same about Bernadeau last year...

 

[jobberone]

Philadelphia really dropped Free.

Yeah, he gave up 4 hurries which is not that bad esp with no hits or sacks but he had 3 penalties, too. Negative day dropped him from top of the list.

 

[jobberone]

He is not -- but the way PFF grades, he comes out that way b/c they don't factor in things like how often the player gets help on a block - Tyron is our best OL -- he's on an island on almost every play. If he got as much help as Free, he'd never give up a pressure.

I don't think Smith is our best lineman. Free is right now and it's not even close. He's not getting that much help as far as I can tell. He hasn't needed it.

 

[Titleist]

I see some of these grades have more to do with name recognition than the players actual play, smh.

Agree in regards to Ware, but then how do you explain Free? Free has little to no name recognition and, if anything, tends to be associated with his horrible play in the past couple years.

Also, Free would definitely be ranked in the top 3 if not for this past game where he reverted back to some of his old habits (i.e. a bazillion false starts).

 

[reddyuta]

Hayden may be playing too many snaps,they need to sub him on passing downs.

 

[pugilist]

who is 1st ILB?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Claiborne 95th ranked corner

That's only going to pour fuel on the fire.

 

[Zordon]

For some of the 'boys...

Free 7th rated OT
Smith 23rd rated OT
Leary 34th rated guard
Waters 22nd rated guard
(Just for grins... Larry Warford is the 9th rated guard)
Frederick 11th rated center

Ware 4th rated DE
Selvie 15th rated DE
Hatcher 1st rated DT
Hayden 69th rated DT (last in the NFL)
Carter 24th rated OLB
Lee 2nd rated ILB
Church 12th rated safety
Wilcox 41st rated safety
Carr 13th ranked corner
Scandrick 57th ranked corner
Claiborne 95th ranked corner

@Risen Star will love that.

Cowboys are looking at an A+ draft if they double down on the oline and draft Warford instead of the awkward stiff Escobar.

 

[jobberone]

who is 1st ILB?

Brandon Spikes is.

 

[jobberone]

That's only going to pour fuel on the fire.

Yeah. He has really played better lately though. He's had two neutral games, three bad, and two meh games.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah. He has really played better lately though. He's had two neutral games, three bad, and two meh games.

That's a great point. A really that applies to the entire defense, 3 lousy games that several of the defenders need to overcome.

 

[BAT]

Don't know how those rating are compiled, but:

• There's no way Free is that good
• Ware has not been that good this season
• There's no way there are 56 db's better than Scandrick
• There's no way there are 94 db's better than Claiborne (though the last two games he's been much better than the previous games).
• Seems a little high for Selvie
• There's no way Hatcher is the best DT in the game.
• Everyone on our line is above average (well, I guess Leary is average). When is the last time we could say none of our starting OL is below avg?

How are your rankings compiled? You are throwing a lot of absolutes out there ("no way....").

 

[dstovall5]

Agree in regards to Ware, but then how do you explain Free? Free has little to no name recognition and, if anything, tends to be associated with his horrible play in the past couple years.

Also, Free would definitely be ranked in the top 3 if not for this past game where he reverted back to some of his old habits (i.e. a bazillion false starts).

That's why I said some, not all.

 

[RS12]

Ah, forgot to realize that. Still, I think Hayden is a solid player.

I dont. There is a reason a lot of these guys were unemployed during the off season.

 

[TheCount]

Just remember that pff 'grades' are not an objective measure. Some guy watches a game for a player. For any play they will assign a grade ranging from -3 to 3 and add them up. Voila you have a grade.

Personally I think it's crap. I would rather watch the game and form my own opinion.

I don't think that's exactly how it works but like any other stat, it's not gospel and context always matters.

I take it as another piece of info to add to the pile, not the final word.

 

[jobberone]

PFF is not the be all end all that's for sure. I've always taken their stats with a grain of salt esp some of the specific stats like hurries, sacks, etc. As long as you don't take them as gospel and look at the trends and apply the eyeball test to their results you can get a decent idea of what's going on.

 

[Future]

I never expected Claiborne's number to be so low. If we got even mediocre performance from Claiborne, we could very well be sitting at 6-1.

It will be interesting to see where DT Drake Nevis appears?

How can you possibly blame either of the three losses on Claiborne?