Season to date– PFF grades...

[Awakened]

How are your rankings compiled? You are throwing a lot of absolutes out there ("no way....").

I use my two eyeballs and my noggin.

 

[Hoov]

Don't know how those rating are compiled, but:

• There's no way Free is that good
• Ware has not been that good this season
• There's no way there are 56 db's better than Scandrick
• There's no way there are 94 db's better than Claiborne (though the last two games he's been much better than the previous games).
• Seems a little high for Selvie
• There's no way Hatcher is the best DT in the game.
• Everyone on our line is above average (well, I guess Leary is average). When is the last time we could say none of our starting OL is below avg?

i agree.

 

[Nexx]

@Risen Star will love that.

Cowboys are looking at an A+ draft if they double down on the oline and draft Warford instead of the awkward stiff Escobar.

+1 and this isnt revisionist history for me, i was so happy when our second round pick came around and warford was still on the board, then the "wait whaaaa.... who?"

 

[JoeyBoy718]

We have a great pair of tackles. Smith has emerged as an above average OT and will probably reach elite level in a few years. Long career ahead of him. Free is playing at an elite level this year and isn't as old as people make him out to be. He still has lots of gas in the tank.

We have a great young center. Already borderline top 10 and will probably become an elite OC in the next few years. Imagine in 3-4 years us having the best LT and OC in the game. The future is bright. Too bad it didn't happen til Romo was 33.

We have a solid pair of guards. Leary is practically a rookie and is playing okay. He's an average OG in this league in only his first year starting. Hopefully he can stay healthy and improve to an above average player. I doubt he'll ever become elite but you can't have 5 All Pros on the O-line. Waters is a HOFer and is still playing at a high level. But we can't depend on him to play forever. We need to sign or draft a young replacement soon.

All in all, we're gonna have an elite LT and OC for the next 10-15 years. Hopefully Free has 5-6 more solid years left in the tank. Guard is the only real issue. Leary is playing okay but nothing special. He definitely isn't a liability. Also, he has his knee thing. Waters is great but is old. Gonna need to replace one, maybe both, guard spots soon. Other than that, line looks great.

 

[honyock]

For some of the 'boys...

Free 7th rated OT
Smith 23rd rated OT
Leary 34th rated guard
Waters 22nd rated guard
(Just for grins... Larry Warford is the 9th rated guard)
Frederick 11th rated center

Ware 4th rated DE
Selvie 15th rated DE
Hatcher 1st rated DT
Hayden 69th rated DT (last in the NFL)
Carter 24th rated OLB
Lee 2nd rated ILB
Church 12th rated safety
Wilcox 41st rated safety
Carr 13th ranked corner
Scandrick 57th ranked corner
Claiborne 95th ranked corner

I know that PFF doesn't do this, but it'd be nice to see the tackles rankings broken down further to listed left tackles and right tackles separately. LT's generally face the stiffer passrushing challenges on a weekly basis. It's not completely comparing apples and oranges, but it'd be cool to know anyway. I'd be curious where Smith ranks among left tackles.

 

[BAT]

I use my two eyeballs and my noggin.

Well use that noggin and give us some criteria for your contrary opinion.

 

[T-RO]

Again, Smith is in the upper 1/3 of the entire NFL. I don't think that's shotty.

If its a legit ranking (questionable) its very disappointing. He was a premium first rounder. When you draft lineman in the first round they should be top 5.

But again…these rankings are extremely subjective.

 

[T-RO]

@Risen Star will love that.

Cowboys are looking at an A+ draft if they double down on the oline and draft Warford instead of the awkward stiff Escobar.

I agree with you on this Z. I haven't liked the Escobar pick from day 1. And we needed not just one or two O-linemen, but 3.

 

[Vintage]

Tyron is a quality starting LT.

He just isn't elite. Maybe he gets there. Maybe he doesn't.

Either way, there are worse LTs out there.