Self awareness/accountability

MountaineerCowboy said:
Yes, Josh Allen, the same guy that finished 2nd in the MVP voting and had his team 1 game away from the Super Bowl a year ago in just his 3rd year.

Both things Dak has NEVER done.
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Is almost winning the MVP an award in the NFL, since this is the same argument once used for Wentz to build him up as a QB who was more Super Bowl caliber or better than Dak.

For Dak and the Cowboys it would be "Super Bowl or nothing." As not even getting to the conference championship game but losing, would be enough to change the minds of Dak's most stubborn critics. If the Cowboys lost that game and followed it up with a 7-6 season with for games left to go, all some would do is focus on the current season and still use it to express their doubts about Dak's ability to lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

Josh Allen gets more leeway with some fans for being paid more and getting drafted higher than Dak.
 
Romo_To_Dez said:
7-8 what difference does it make? The Saints still had three losing seasons in a row for when Brees was the starter for the majority of that time period. And Drew Brees still had slumps after his Super Bowl win. Or times where people doubted him and believed him to either be declining or believed that his career was done and he would never got back to playing like he did in 2009.

None of what you just said or posted, negates the fact that Brees had at least a segment of media and fans who were doubting him during the time where the Saints went 7-9 for 3 seasons in a row. And as great as his career has been, he still has one Super Bowl for the entire course of his career. Dak still has a chance in his career to get his own, whether or not you believe in him be capable of winning a Super Bowl.
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Well, basic math say 7-8 is different from 7-9 thereby disproving your supposed factual statement to be in fact....false.

That said, you are saying someone doubted a QB at the age of 35 (his 2014 season)? Well there's a surprise.
 
Romo_To_Dez said:
Is almost winning the MVP an award in the NFL, since this is the same argument once used for Wentz to build him up as a QB who was more Super Bowl caliber or better than Dak.

For Dak and the Cowboys it would be "Super Bowl or nothing." As not even getting to the conference championship game but losing, would be enough to change the minds of Dak's most stubborn critics. If the Cowboys lost that game and followed it up with a 7-6 season with for games left to go, all some would do is focus on the current season and still use it to express their doubts about Dak's ability to lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

Josh Allen gets more leeway with some fans for being paid more and getting drafted higher than Dak.
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Allen average per year salary $43M
Prescott average per year salary $40M

So $3M more for a QB that just led his team to the AFC Championship game, had a higher winning percentage than Dak prior to getting their new deals (Allen .625 vs. Dak .609), has more playoff games and wins compared to Dak (4 vs. 3 and 2 vs. 1), and is 3 years younger than Dak (25 vs. 28)??????

Yeah, I would say that isn't an issue.
 
visionary said:
He’s a company man through and through just like Garrett
He knows what to say
Problem is he doesn’t know what to do and how to do it

Dint tell me
Show me
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Right on! Garrett sickness on all he breaths on. Hot air balloon
 
USArmyVet said:
Allen average per year salary $43M
Prescott average per year salary $40M

So $3M more for a QB that just led his team to the AFC Championship game, had a higher winning percentage than Dak prior to getting their new deals (Allen .625 vs. Dak .609), has more playoff games and wins compared to Dak (4 vs. 3 and 2 vs. 1), and is 3 years younger than Dak (25 vs. 28)??????

Yeah, I would say that isn't an issue.
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I don't want to take any part in this pro/against Dak nonsense, but one thing needs to be made clear: Dak is no young quarterback. His rookie year is long gone and he should be in his prime. He has enough talent around him to make it to a superbowl. He (and yes that's on him) has to make it happen. He's the alpha dog, it's up to him to make the difference between an above average team and a championship team.

So while I don't even have the slightest bit of antipathy for the guy, I do hold him responsible for the way this team goes. Yes it's a team sport and many factors have to come together to make it all happen. But many factors have been in fact put together. Great defense. Talented receiving corps. A very good O line (on paper). A headcoach who has won it all. The best infrastructure in the league on top. All that's gotta be enough. But he's one of the pieces still missing, or once again missing, since the first third of the season was phenomenal.

He needs to get it done. No excuses. I couldn't care less what other QBs are doing or have achieved. He's our man under center and so I want him to be at 100%. At least from now til early February.
 
USArmyVet said:
Dak didn't beat the Packers in the 2016 playoffs so in your very first sentence you debunked any point you were trying to make.
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Are you high? I said the reason that Dak was a part of the reason we had a chance to win that game I didn't say we won it, you might want to go back and read my post instead of nut rolling.. The defense gave up ridiculous plays to allow rogers to beat us at the end of the game is what happened..

Rogers was clutch and got Green Bay into field goal range after Dak threw a TD with 4 minutes left... Dak went 24-38 for 302 yards with 3 td's and 1 Int.
The defense couldn't make the stops when needed, Dak played well.
 
Romo_To_Dez said:
Josh Allen had an awful game against the Jaguars where the Bills lost and the Bills offense only scored 6 points. The Bills have been on downward trend, that can be described as worse than the Cowboys. As the Bills have lost most of their games that they have played in the last recent weeks and the Bills right now are 7-6. Josh Allen gets paid more than Dak and also has a roster/team that some during this season have ranked or said was better than the Cowboys.

So you believe in Josh Allen and would bet on him despite the fact that he has struggled in some games this season, including against inferior opponents and the Bills might even be on the edge of missing the playoffs all together, if they don't turn things around during their next couple of games. Since they are now fighting for a wildcard after the Patriots stormed back to take over the division once again.
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I would bet on Josh Allen over Dak any day of the week.

I'd make that trade right now if I was Jerry.
 
phildadon86 said:
Lol. Remind me again. Where was Josh Allen’s defense ranked last year? And why couldn’t he do these miraculous things without Diggs on the team? Why couldn’t he “elevate those around him lead” without diggs? Care to comment? Or you going to move the goalposts again. Top QB or not. They need talent around them to succeed. Period.
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Last year Buffalo's defense was 13th in passing yards per game given up (worse than the Cowboys), 17th in rushing yards per game given up, and 16th in PPG given up.

You thought they had an awesome defenses didn't ya?

You should really look this stuff up before posting and making yourself look like a fool.
 
johneric8 said:
Are you high? I said the reason that Dak was a part of the reason we had a chance to win that game I didn't say we won it, you might want to go back and read my post instead of nut rolling.. The defense gave up ridiculous plays to allow rogers to beat us at the end of the game is what happened..

Rogers was clutch and got Green Bay into field goal range after Dak threw a TD with 4 minutes left... Dak went 24-38 for 302 yards with 3 td's and 1 Int.
The defense couldn't make the stops when needed, Dak played well.
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Where was Dak the first 3 quarters of the game????

Here he was:

6 offensive drives (2 FG's, 1 TD, 2 Punts, 1 INT)

40 plays 235 yards 5.88 ypp 17:50 top

14 of 25 56% Comp % 7.04 ypa 176 yards 1 TD 1 INT


So based on your stats Dak in the 4th quarter was: 10 of 13 for 125 Yards with 2 TD's

So in other words Dak has almost as many completions and yards with twice as many TD's in the 4th quarter as he did the first 3 quarters.......so Dak was non-existent for 3/4's of the game yet let's blame the defense and claim Dak played well. Okay.
 
USArmyVet said:
Where was Dak the first 3 quarters of the game????

Here is was:

6 offensive drives (2 FG's, 1 TD, 2 Punts, 1 INT)

40 plays 235 yards 5.88 ypp 17:50 top

14 of 25 56% Comp % 7.04 ypa 176 yards 1 TD 1 INT


So based on your stats Dak in the 4th quarter was: 10 of 13 for 125 Yards with 2 TD's

So in other words Dak has almost as many completions and yards with twice as many TD's in the 4th quarter as he did the first 3 quarters.......so Dak was non-existent for 3/4's of the game yet let's blame the defense and claim Dak played well. Okay.
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I'm not going to get into pissing match about how the flow of the game went, I was commenting on your comment about me saying the boys won the game and I didn't say that, nor did i say dak won it.. I said they nearly did.. Dak played really good in that game in my opinion but who cares really... Dak is your QB hoss get use to it, he is going to be here for a long long time and I love it.
 
johneric8 said:
I'm not going to get into pissing match about how the flow of the game went, I was commenting on your comment about me saying the boys won the game and I didn't say that, nor did i say dak won it.. I said they nearly did.. Dak played really good in that game in my opinion but who cares really... Dak is your QB hoss get use to it, he is going to be here for a long long time and I love it.
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Yeah well loving Dak being the starting QB for years to come is a guy loving that he has a lifetime STD.....albeit they are the same.
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
Last year Buffalo's defense was 13th in passing yards per game given up (worse than the Cowboys), 17th in rushing yards per game given up, and 16th in PPG given up.

You thought they had an awesome defenses didn't ya?

You should really look this stuff up before posting and making yourself look like a fool.
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Worse than the cowboys last year? We were the worst defense in football.

why did you leave out what Josh Allen was before diggs? No response to that eh? Poor little Josh Allen couldn’t elevate his team before the team got talent in there.
 
phildadon86 said:
Worse than the cowboys last year? We were the worst defense in football.
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You spoke before you looked up the numbers. You were wrong. Now you're trying to embarrassingly scramble around and compare it to the Cowboys.

Chalk this up to a lesson learned.
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
You spoke before you looked up the numbers. You were wrong. Now you're trying to embarrassingly scramble around and compare it to the Cowboys.

Chalk this up to a lesson learned.
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Bills were ranked 14th overall. Cowboys 23rd. What about diggs? Or do you not want to comment on that?
 
USArmyVet said:
Yeah well loving Dak being the starting QB for years to come is a guy loving that he has a lifetime STD.....albeit they are the same.
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Well, he is one of the highest rated Qb's
USArmyVet said:
Yeah well loving Dak being the starting QB for years to come is a guy loving that he has a lifetime STD.....albeit they are the same.
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He is one of the top Qb's in many categories in his first 6 years so I'll take them crabs all day long bro. Here is the deal, I think he is a fantastic QB, he isn't perfect but no one is.. I'm more worried about Jerry Jones and his cap management and country club flair. Dak would of gotten paid by a dozen other teams in need of a franchise guy.. Most people around the league value Prescott yet we have haters who scatter like roaches when he is playing well but throw their cards all around the room as soon as he plays like typical QB.
 
phildadon86 said:
Bills were ranked 14th overall. Cowboys 23rd. What about diggs? Or do you not want to comment on that?
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You thought the Bills had some kind of great defense last year, so once I proved you wrong you started comparing them to the 6 win Dallas Cowboys? What a weak thing to do. Why not just admit you're wrong?

I'd be happy to comment on Diggs, but I won't do it until you admit you were wrong.
 
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