Seven in a row now

[PJTHEDOORS]

I wanted Zeke over Ramsey. But let's not be foolish enough to think that five games decides which one is the better player.
That evaluation won't come until years down the road.

As a rb, Zeke is the better player.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Now do the 2nd round.

I'm sure you've already written off Smith and Gregory. That is how you roll.

OTOH, the third round has been kind. Green can play much to your chagrin. TWill and Wilcox are currently having their best years. Maliek Collins is already starting. Demarco Murray was a pretty good pick no?

How about the 4th round with Wilson, Hitchens, Prescott, and Wilber all contributing?

BTW the average hit rate on 3rd and 4th rounders is 30% and 20% respectively.

Then you have late round guys like Swaim, Brown, Hanna, Nzeocha and Frazier who are active on game days contributing.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Not really. Check other teams.

A Donald Trump statement. Just spew it out and act like its fact and hopefully the weak minded will believe it.

 

[DogFace]

A Donald Trump statement. Just spew it out and act like its fact and hopefully the weak minded will believe it.

 

[YosemiteSam]

First rounders are the "easiest" to hit on. Sure. That just makes logical sense.

What people miss is when they ignore teh difference in "easiest" vs. "easy."

What the Cowboys have done in the fist is remarkably good work. And remarkably lucky.

Dez Bryant ~ Fell to the Cowboys due to questionable behavior. (freebe of sort as he should have went much higher, Cowboys got lucky, but also pay for with hit / miss effort)
Mo Claiborne ~ Has been a bust until his contract year. Quite interesting. It took 5 years for a 6th overall pick to come to life. (this is a bust pick as of right now, 5 games does not change that fact)
Tyron Smith ~ 9th overall pick and was a no brainer. He was called a top 5 pick at LT. He shouldn't have fell to the Cowboys. He should have been gone. (another lucky chance that paid off)
Travis Frederick ~ This was truly a great pick. He was picked in the realm he could have and should have been picked.
Zack Martin ~ Another great pick and was a no-brainer pick for anyone where he was picked.
Byron Jones ~ This was a risk reward pick. The kid is a phycial freak and showed some talent, but it was by no means a no-brainer pick.
Zeke Elliott ~ No brainer pick at #4. He has all the tools you like to see in a RB. A generational level talent like AP. In the top 5 is where these types of players usually go.

So, I see a couple of great picks and a couple of lucky picks and even some bust factor in these picks.

As I said. Overall great picks, but lets not BS ourselves in saying this was all hard work. The hard work comes in the later rounds and well. This last draft (it seems) is the best we've seen in over a decade.

 

[tyke1doe]

A Donald Trump statement. Just spew it out and act like its fact and hopefully the weak minded will believe it.

No u did-INT go dare.

 

[Jstopper]

Dez Bryant ~ Fell to the Cowboys due to questionable behavior. (freebe of sort as he should have went much higher, Cowboys got lucky, but also pay for with hit / miss effort)
Mo Claiborne ~ Has been a bust until his contract year. Quite interesting. It took 5 years for a 6th overall pick to come to life. (this is a bust pick as of right now, 5 games does not change that fact)
Tyron Smith ~ 9th overall pick and was a no brainer. He was called a top 5 pick at LT. He shouldn't have fell to the Cowboys. He should have been gone. (another lucky chance that paid off)
Travis Frederick ~ This was truly a great pick. He was picked in the realm he could have and should have been picked.
Zack Martin ~ Another great pick and was a no-brainer pick for anyone where he was picked.
Byron Jones ~ This was a risk reward pick. The kid is a phycial freak and showed some talent, but it was by no means a no-brainer pick.
Zeke Elliott ~ No brainer pick at #4. He has all the tools you like to see in a RB. A generational level talent like AP. In the top 5 is where these types of players usually go.

So, I see a couple of great picks and a couple of lucky picks and even some bust factor in these picks.

As I said. Overall great picks, but lets not BS ourselves in saying this was all hard work. The hard work comes in the later rounds and well. This last draft (it seems) is the best we've seen in over a decade.

Anything to reach for a way to discredit the team huh? Go look at all other 31 teams and show us who has hit on 7 straight 1st rounders

 

[CWR]

With the sudden emergence of our former "bust" cornerback, it's only fair to take notice and credit our Cowboys for their past seven 1st-round picks.

Dez Bryant
Mo Claiborne
Tyron Smith
Travis Frederick
Zack Martin
Byron Jones
Zeke Elliott

That's pretty, pretty, pretty good.

Yes that is pretty, pretty, prettty good. - LD.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Anything to reach for a way to discredit the team huh? Go look at all other 31 teams and show us who has hit on 7 straight 1st rounders

Clearly you do not know me very well. I'm actually very pragmatic. Not just a negative Nancy or someone who blows rainbows and unicorns out of my *** everyday.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Dez Bryant ~ Fell to the Cowboys due to questionable behavior. (freebe of sort as he should have went much higher, Cowboys got lucky, but also pay for with hit / miss effort)
Mo Claiborne ~ Has been a bust until his contract year. Quite interesting. It took 5 years for a 6th overall pick to come to life. (this is a bust pick as of right now, 5 games does not change that fact)
Tyron Smith ~ 9th overall pick and was a no brainer. He was called a top 5 pick at LT. He shouldn't have fell to the Cowboys. He should have been gone. (another lucky chance that paid off)
Travis Frederick ~ This was truly a great pick. He was picked in the realm he could have and should have been picked.
Zack Martin ~ Another great pick and was a no-brainer pick for anyone where he was picked.
Byron Jones ~ This was a risk reward pick. The kid is a phycial freak and showed some talent, but it was by no means a no-brainer pick.
Zeke Elliott ~ No brainer pick at #4. He has all the tools you like to see in a RB. A generational level talent like AP. In the top 5 is where these types of players usually go.

So, I see a couple of great picks and a couple of lucky picks and even some bust factor in these picks.

As I said. Overall great picks, but lets not BS ourselves in saying this was all hard work. The hard work comes in the later rounds and well. This last draft (it seems) is the best we've seen in over a decade.

You're more naive than I thought. Should have has nothing to do with it.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

With the sudden emergence of our former "bust" cornerback, it's only fair to take notice and credit our Cowboys for their past seven 1st-round picks.

Dez Bryant
Mo Claiborne
Tyron Smith
Travis Frederick
Zack Martin
Byron Jones
Zeke Elliott

That's pretty, pretty, pretty good.

Kinda hard to go back and get credit for Claiborne when he was out there to be had by anyone this past offseason. He was literally bad enough that no one wanted him, so there was a failure some where in scouting him.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You're more naive than I thought. Should have has nothing to do with it.

More of these DT statements flying. If you can't present proof, then shut your hole. Just spewing garbage without backing it up doesn't make it fact.

 

[erod]

Kinda hard to go back and get credit for Claiborne when he was out there to be had by anyone this past offseason. He was literally bad enough that no one wanted him, so there was a failure some where in scouting him.

The talent was there obviously.

But never draft a guy that high that gets a 6 on the Wonderlic apparently. Takes them a while to figure out what they're doing.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

More of these DT statements flying. If you can't present proof, then shut your hole. Just spewing garbage without backing it up doesn't make it fact.

But I was responding to a post of yours that was full of statements without proof? My statement was a critique of yours. There's no room for proof in mine, but I'd love to see you practice what you preach by proving that Dez and Tyron should have been picked beforehand.

 

[erod]

A Donald Trump statement. Just spew it out and act like its fact and hopefully the weak minded will believe it.

Wow, what a brain-numb non-sequitor.

You think the Giants are excited about Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, David Wilson, Prince Amakamura, Hakeem Nicks, Aaron Ross, and Kenny Phillips?

You think the Commanders would like to have RG3 pick back? Brian Orakpo? LaRon Landry? (Most years, they don't have a first-round pick to screw up.)

You think the Eagles feel great about Marcus Smith, Nelson Agholor, and Danny Watkins?

That's just the NFC East. Next time there's a big boy conversation to be had, you should probably just sit it out.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Dez Bryant ~ Fell to the Cowboys due to questionable behavior. (freebe of sort as he should have went much higher, Cowboys got lucky, but also pay for with hit / miss effort)
Mo Claiborne ~ Has been a bust until his contract year. Quite interesting. It took 5 years for a 6th overall pick to come to life. (this is a bust pick as of right now, 5 games does not change that fact)
Tyron Smith ~ 9th overall pick and was a no brainer. He was called a top 5 pick at LT. He shouldn't have fell to the Cowboys. He should have been gone. (another lucky chance that paid off)
Travis Frederick ~ This was truly a great pick. He was picked in the realm he could have and should have been picked.
Zack Martin ~ Another great pick and was a no-brainer pick for anyone where he was picked.
Byron Jones ~ This was a risk reward pick. The kid is a phycial freak and showed some talent, but it was by no means a no-brainer pick.
Zeke Elliott ~ No brainer pick at #4. He has all the tools you like to see in a RB. A generational level talent like AP. In the top 5 is where these types of players usually go.

So, I see a couple of great picks and a couple of lucky picks and even some bust factor in these picks.

As I said. Overall great picks, but lets not BS ourselves in saying this was all hard work. The hard work comes in the later rounds and well. This last draft (it seems) is the best we've seen in over a decade.

LOL @ your analysis.

 

[jday]

I wanted Zeke over Ramsey. But let's not be foolish enough to think that five games decides which one is the better player.
That evaluation won't come until years down the road.

For me, it has never been about who was the better player overall. It was about who stood to help the team more. Without a doubt that was Zeke and unless you think our defense collectively came into the season pro bowl ready, the fruits of that acquisition are blooming in front of are very eyes.

 

[jazzcat22]

Last I heard WR 37 yr old Steve Smith chewed up Ramsey.
Both Ramsey and Jack haven't done much so far, from what I have heard.

Right, as the anti Zeke crowd basically said Ramsey would have turned us into a winning defense, so why hasn't he done that for the Jaguars.
I know that will be taken literally by some, as it's mostly in jest. There are many factors as to why he hasn't. In a few years or maybe next year he will be a shut down corner for them.

But we still made the right selection.
As for Jack vs. Smith in the 2nd, remains to be seen come the next few years.

 

[DFWJC]

Great 1st round run

And I do think Claiborne has turned the corner.
But since it didn't happen until his 5th season, I can't really include him. Plus, he also cost us a 2nd rounder.
He did not return value for where he was picked over the life of his 1st contract....it was terrible actually. Far from a successful draft pick that high.

Thrilled that he's good now. Maybe Dallas even gets to see the benefit after this year, but then again, so might any of 31 other teams..

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Right, as the anti Zeke crowd basically said Ramsey would have turned us into a winning defense, so why hasn't he done that for the Jaguars.
I know that will be taken literally by some, as it's mostly in jest. There are many factors as to why he hasn't. In a few years or maybe next year he will be a shut down corner for them.

But we still made the right selection.
As for Jack vs. Smith in the 2nd, remains to be seen come the next few years.

Ramsey has been maybe their best player on defense.

He also didn't get torched by Smith. He allowed 2 catches for 20ish yards.

The argument for Ramsey is simple. Our defense needed more help than our running game. And a first round pick needs to have a high likelihood of producing through his 2nd contract at a high level. And that pick should fill a void harder to fill later in the draft and in free agency.

Ramsey checks off all those boxes. Zeke checks off none.

Is Zeke shaping up to be what we thought he was? Yes. Is he being productive behind this line? Yes. Would our offensive lineman still be opening giant holes for our running back and making defensive linemanand linebackers miserable if we didn't have Zeke? Yes.

I'm oh so tired of explaining this simple concept.