Shaq headed to the Suns?

[Hostile]

I don't understand this trade from the Sun's position at all. Marion might have left after this year, but how is Shaq going to make them better on the floor? If they wanted to trade Marion, they could have done better.

Shot percentage will go up in the half court offense because he is good down low. Rebounds will go up with him and Stoudamire down low.

The fast break (their bread and butter) will be less potent though unless he can haul his fat butt up and down the court more than he has in years. If anything will get him in prime shpae playing in that offense might.

I just really liek the guy. He's a big goofy kid.

 

[ajk23az]

Shot percentage will go up in the half court offense because he is good down low. Rebounds will go up with him and Stoudamire down low.

The fast break (their bread and butter) will be less potent though unless he can haul his fat butt up and down the court more than he has in years. If anything will get him in prime shpae playing in that offense might.

I just really liek the guy. He's a big goofy kid.

When hes not hurt...

 

[MC KAos]

As another fellow Suns fan, I understand all the haters out there. However Marion was probably gone at the end of the season and for what in return?

Its amazing how some here have such a disdain for my team. I guess its turning into a Skins Cowboys type of rivalry.

well, most fans on this site are either spurs or mavs fans, and we all know that those three teams are huge rivals at the moment

Yeah, I don't understand why people hate on the Suns as bad as they do. It's not like they play dirty at all and we usually get screwed on calls from the refs, not always, but usually. Even if they haven't won a championship, they are still fun to watch.

read your post and your arguments and youll realize why people here hate suns fans

 

[MC KAos]

I'm a Shaq fan and live in AZ so I like it. The more I get to see him and hear him, the better. Guy is funny and I think misunderstood. I'm not a Suns fan or even an NBA fan any more. I still like it.

i love shaq too, he is hillarious. however, thats not gonna help the suns come playoff time because he is over the hill, overweight and slow

Marion was all but gone after this year, so the Suns felt like they had to deal him now or get nothing in return over the summer. Younger players or draft picks would be better in the long run, but probably don't help them get over the top. I'm not sure how much Shaq has left in the tank, but maybe he has one good run left in him.

I'm surprised the Suns made this move if only because of the salary cap ramifications. They haven't been one to pay the luxury tax either. At least now the jetisoning of draft picks and players like Kurt Thomas makes a little more sense.

ya, he was all but gone, but that doesnt mean they could have gotten better value for him.

 

[DCgirl13]

read your post and your arguments and youll realize why people here hate suns fans

It's the truth!

God I can't wait for football to come back already...

 

[thekavorka]

there are just so many "if's" to this trade. i don't know if you can make that trade where he'll stay for 2.5 more years with so many question marks.

and the suns management makes no sense. they trade first round draft picks for CASH. then they go and trade for a fat, overpaid, over the hill center who plays no defense.

this trade is absolutely huge for miami if marion opts out of his contract this year (but i doubt he will). if marion opts out, the heat will have a lot of cap room plus a high draft pick.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I really don't understand this move from the Suns point of view. I don't know that Shaq has enough left in his tank to get them over the hump.

 

[Danny White]

I just hope poor Shaq's game doesn't suffer now that he's on the Suns seeing that the league and the refs are constantly out to get them.

I'd hate for Shaq to get called for ticky-tack fouls when he goes barrelling through the lane, elbows and lowered shoulders blazing.

 

[Kangaroo]

Well Nash and Shaq's contract will expire at the same time giving the Suns a couple chances at some runs and if not let those guys go in 2 years and go out and get players in FA to put around Stoudawhiner (yes I did his name that way on purpose)

 

[MC KAos]

I just hope poor Shaq's game doesn't suffer now that he's on the Suns seeing that the league and the refs are constantly out to get them.

I'd hate for Shaq to get called for ticky-tack fouls when he goes barrelling through the lane, elbows and lowered shoulders blazing.

ya, now the suns fans are gonna say the league is out to get them because the league knew 3 years ago that they were gonna get shaq so they made all these rules against defensive minded teams to get scoring up

Well Nash and Shaq's contract will expire at the same time giving the Suns a couple chances at some runs and if not let those guys go in 2 years and go out and get players in FA to put around Stoudawhiner (yes I did his name that way on purpose)

ahh, you have learned the way of the suns organization, to whine, from top to bottom, its sad really. I dont think youll see shaq doing that though

 

[Route 66]

ya, now the suns fans are gonna say the league is out to get them because the league knew 3 years ago that they were gonna get shaq so they made all these rules against defensive minded teams to get scoring up



ahh, you have learned the way of the suns organization, to whine, from top to bottom, its sad really. I dont think youll see shaq doing that though

Sounds like you and I are going to be seeing a lot of each other around playoff time cause if the Suns trounce you guys this year, itll be that much sweeter due to your 'tude.

 

[MC KAos]

were not gonna get trounced, we might get beat by yall, but if we loose to the suns it will be close. BTW i think that the trade makes the suns more competitive against the spurs, but not anyone else

 

[MC KAos]

well, someone needs to take out the question mark from the thread title, its a done deal now...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3234099

Sources: Shaq traded from Heat to Suns for Marion, Banks

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Updated: February 6, 2008, 6:04 PM ET

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Diesel will be chugging out West.

In one of the most improbable trades in NBA history, the Miami Heat traded Shaquille O'Neal to the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com.

O'Neal had traveled to Phoenix Wednesday morning to take a physical, which he presumably passed.

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The Miami Herald first reported on its Web site Tuesday night that the Heat informed O'Neal that they were shopping him and that talks with the Suns were serious.

Marion and O'Neal were reportedly both in favor of the trade, with sources telling ESPN.com on Tuesday that the Heat center was eager to leave his deteriorating relationship with Miami coach Pat Riley.

O'Neal talked to Suns players including Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire, The Arizona Republic reported on Wednesday. "I will not let you down," O'Neal reportedly told Nash on the phone.

The Suns have been plagued by well-chronicled concerns about their chemistry for nearly two years, generally focusing on the occasional dissatisfaction voiced behind the scenes by either Marion or Stoudemire. In the locker room as well as the front office, sources told Stein, there are factions that have believed for some time that one of them would eventually have to be traded for the Suns to reach their full potential.

Marion asked to be traded before the season but has rarely mentioned that declaration since, with many Suns insiders believing that he went public with that request mostly as a protest response to being mentioned in trade rumors for years.

O'Neal turns 36 in March and has been plagued by a persistent hip problem that has cost him 14 games this season. He refused to speak with Miami reporters after Tuesday's practice, while Riley insisted that O'Neal would soon undergo an MRI after missing the Heat's past six games.

And when he has been healthy, O'Neal is averaging a career-worst 14.2 points and 7.8 rebounds, while the Heat's demise has deepened after they followed their historic comeback from 2-0 down against Dallas in the 2006 NBA Finals by absorbing a first-round sweep by Chicago last season.

Marion, a four-time All-Star, is averaging 15.6 points and 9.8 rebounds this season, while Banks is putting up 5.2 points and 1.0 assist per game.

ESPN.com senior NBA writer Marc Stein, ESPN The Magazine senior NBA writer Ric Bucher and and The Associated Press contributed to this report.


well, this is gonna be interesting to say the least, its gonna be strange seeing the diesel in a suns uniform

 

[Route 66]

were not gonna get trounced, we might get beat by yall, but if we loose to the suns it will be close. BTW i think that the trade makes the suns more competitive against the spurs, but not anyone else

Ok, I stand corrected. Trounced wouldn't be the word. :

 

[smarta5150]

I am so mad right now.

Why the **** would we trade Marion for Shaq.

Most ******** move in sports history... write it down.

Whether we win a title or not it wont be because of Shaq, chances are he'll be injured come post-season anyway.

Unreal, excuse me why I go puke.

 

[Route 66]

The only thing I can offer you is the fact that Marion disappears when the playoffs come and thats what really counts.

 

[MC KAos]

I am so mad right now.

Why the **** would we trade Marion for Shaq.

Most ******** move in sports history... write it down.

Whether we win a title or not it wont be because of Shaq, chances are he'll be injured come post-season anyway.

Unreal, excuse me why I go puke.

suns are already selling shaq gear!!

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credit for this goes to elnonomasa over at the spurs forum

 

[Route 66]

suns are already selling shaq gear!!

http://img503.*************/img503/262/shaqphxvc9.png

credit for this goes to elnonomasa over at the spurs forum

The only thing I can say about this is its a compliment to the Suns organization. Anybody that goes out of the way to spend the time to make this stuff up means the Suns are in your thoughts. Its not like you guys are making Timberwolves pics. Thanks guys!:

 

[MC KAos]

of course, we spurs fans are very consious of the mentally challenged and the less fortunate, so we keep the suns and their fans in our thoughts.

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[Biggems]

The only thing I can say about this is its a compliment to the Suns organization. Anybody that goes out of the way to spend the time to make this stuff up means the Suns are in your thoughts. Its not like you guys are making Timberwolves pics. Thanks guys!:

we dont hate the suns...we hate their whine. we hate their fans' whine....you guys cry more than any NBA fans. You make more excuses than any NBA fans. You are the most talented team and the funnest to watch, excuse me while I puke.....yet you never win a damn thing. When you lose, it is never cause you got beat, it is cause you played bad, the refs were bad, or the other team was lucky.

we have heard this song and dance from PHX fans for the last 6 years. we are tired of your crying and excuses. Just accept that the Spurs own your pathetic Championshipless franchise and get on with it. Embrace your so called exciting style of Championshipless play.

We will embrace our boring, lethargic, soft, dirty Championship team.

GO SPURS GO


btw, that was a great game tonight....Stoyakovich did to you guys, what Rudy Gay of Memphis did to us earlier this year.....