Shaun Suisham

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I miss Billy the Kid!
The times that he had!
The life that he lived!
I guess he must’ve got caught,
His innocence lost...
I wonder where he is?
I miss Billy the Kid!
 

CrazyCowboy

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BP is smart enough to have a plan during this two week break.......he will decide who our kicker will be for the rest of the year!
 

joseephuss

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I am more concerned with the deep snapper. He is consitent. Every snap on FGs and PATs are high and to the right.
 

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Where did France end up? Anyway it's encouraging to know that this kid is being brought along the same way that Viniateri and Hall were before him. Should be an interesting ride.
 

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TheFuture21 said:
i think it was partially nerves as well...especially with parcells looking right over his shoulder


That reminds me of the story Gene Stallings used to tell.

He said he was watching his kicker in practice and the kicker turned to him and said, "Coach, you are making me nervous looking at me like that." Stallings told the kicker..."'Son, I'm going to be at every game." :)
 

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this is kinda rediculous, everyone is jumping on suisham and all hes done so far is make every kick
 

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Kilyin said:
Typical, haven't seen this kid kick more than 21 yards and people are already ready to cut him. Kickoffs, he didn't get them in the endzone, but they were all between the 1 and the 20. What's wrong with that?

It did seem to have good hang time though, because our coverage were right there, I think they all were tackled around the 20, or at least hit around there. Maybe a run to the 30 or so once. So his kicks were enough to get our guys down field to make a play.
 

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Kilyin said:
Typical, haven't seen this kid kick more than 21 yards and people are already ready to cut him. Kickoffs, he didn't get them in the endzone, but they were all between the 1 and the 20. What's wrong with that?

Not to be nitpicky, but you don't want kicks falling outside the ten too often. Hangtime is important too, but he has got to get better depth on a consistent basis to hang around.

His lack of leg strength is rather obvious. Unless he proves to be Morten Andersen inside 40 yards, he is not long for this team or any other.
 

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When many of our own are longing for Billy Cundiff, still...

well that tells you all you need to know about this team's kicking woes.
 

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Morten Anderson is waiting in the wings, I say sign him. He won't be able to kick the ball deep on kickoffs but he'll nail the 40 yard field goal with 3 seconds left to win the game. If we need kickoffs that reach the end zone, give those duties to the punter or sign a kickoff specialist.
 

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I like the kid. I'd take him over Cortez any day. If FOX never showed his pregame kicking, would there even be talk about questioning his FGs? He didn't show much of anything from that. All of his kicks were right down the middle, but the distance was too short to go off. I don't see a reason to dump him because of that.

The only complaint should be his kickoffs. He started off fairly well, but progressively got worse.

Someone posted these stats a while back...

Billy Cundiff 2004
Kick Off Distance Average
61.7 yards
Return Yard Average
17.5
Difference
44.2
Average start line
20.8 yard line

Jose Cortez 2005
Kick Off Distance Average
65.5 yards
Return Yard Average
21.7
Difference
43.8
Average start line
21.2 yard line

Todd France 2005
Kick Off Distance Average
60.6 yards
Return Yard Average
25.1
Difference
35.5
Average start line
29.5 yard line


So I calculated them for Shaun...

7 kick offs
61.4 yards per kick
26.7 avg start
18.1 yards per return



Here is the breakdown by kick:
formated as so...
Distance
Start Pos.
Return Distance

---First Quarter---
65 yards
23 yard line
18 yard return

63 yards
19 yard line
12 yard return

67 yards
23 yard line
20 yard return


---Second Quarter---
56 yards
29 yard line
15 yard return

58 yards
33 yard line
21 yard return


---Third Quarter---
56 yards
27 yard line
13 yards


---Fourth Quarter---
65 yards
33 yard line
28 yards

I'll wait 3 or 4 games (if he's still here, of course) before I make a judgement on him. Heck, 8 weeks into the season, I still don't know which team will show up. I'm not sure I'll know what kind of kicking game will show up either.
 

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koolaid said:
this is kinda rediculous, everyone is jumping on suisham and all hes done so far is make every kick

It's better to take care of a possible future problem before it happens, rather than after it happens and costs the team games.
 
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