Shocking Details on Mahomes Contract and Impact on Dak, Cowboys

[rnr_honeybadger]

Yes, the ones that benefit their clients. In this case, they'll use Watson's contract which was signed AFTER Mahommes'. Watson's contract shows that Dak was right to refuse the Cowboys' offer and will probably be used as a basis plus one year beyond. So he'll more than likely get much more than he was offered from an APY perspective. Bonuses and guarantees we'll see but he was lowballed on the guaranteed portion, that's for sure.

That same issue holds true for Dak and the difference is that Dak is in no way as talented as Mahomes.

 

[khiladi]

So can the Chiefs trade Mahomes to us for Dak and
we’ll take on his contract and Dak can negotiate whatever he wants with KC?

 

[khiladi]

That same issue holds true for Dak and the difference is that Dak is in no way as talented as Mahomes.

All I read is “Dak is no way as talented as Mahomes” and I hit like..

 

[Loso86]

We are all butt-weary of talking Dak's contract. This household sure is. I just want to enjoy sports w/out the fuss. But money dictates a lot of sports success, whether we like it or not.

For your “dining pleasure” here are some surprising facts about Patrick Mahomes’ contract. KC's GM is truly a financial wizard. This kind of data absolutely impacts other QBs, including Mr. Prescott.

Shock #1
In 2020:
Mahomes made 10.8 million (cap dollars)
Prescott made 31.4 million (cap dollars)

Shock #2
If the Chiefs (for whatever reason) decide to move on from Mahomes after 2024, Patrick will have ‘only’ earned 34.5 million per year, and there will be ZERO dead cap. Chiefs will owe Patrick nada-zip-zero at that point.

Shock #3
Only in 2025, when Mahomes is 30, does serious money kick in, and *none* of that +30 money is guaranteed. So if Mahomes has a debilitating injury, has surprisingly declined, or the NFL salary cap hasn't risen dramatically as expected--the Chiefs can say, "We have eternal gratitude, but...."

Shock #4
If NFL revenues expand and Mahomes continues to thrive the Chiefs have total contractual control to keep Mahomes as a Chief...year by year... until Patrick is age 37. (Re-negotiation likely at some point if Chiefs desire)

Doubt it?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/

I want Dak as a Cowboy, but *only* under terms that won't cripple the team. If Dak's agent wants $35 mil per year, I say: pound sand.

We were saying dont believe numbers, a 40 mil a year QB isnt really that

 

[T-RO]

"Shock" 1 is the difference between being on a rookie deal, which Mahomes still is

Little hint here: A rookie contract is the contract a rookie gets. Mahomes 10-year contract was *not* that.

 

[T-RO]

Sports Illustrated declares,

“Mahomes also gave the Kansas City Chiefs a nice discount”​

And they use the same term, “SHOCK”

“The first three years of Mahomes’ new deal might actually be the most shocking thing about the entire contract.”​

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/patrick-mahomes-new-contract-details

 

[T-RO]

The Cowboys will certainly use Mahomes' statement here during negotiation (from SI article):

Mahomes told reporters during his press conference after signing his mega extension that he “wants to keep great players around me.”

Mahomes could’ve asked for the world. He could’ve asked for his contract to be tied to the cap. He could’ve asked for short-term deals to maximize his earnings. He could’ve actually hampered the Chiefs' cap space.

As it stands now, he didn’t.​

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/patrick-mahomes-new-contract-details

 

[jterrell]

We are all butt-weary of talking Dak's contract. This household sure is. I just want to enjoy sports w/out the fuss. But money dictates a lot of sports success, whether we like it or not.

For your “dining pleasure” here are some surprising facts about Patrick Mahomes’ contract. KC's GM is truly a financial wizard. This kind of data absolutely impacts other QBs, including Mr. Prescott.

Shock #1
In 2020:
Mahomes made 10.8 million (cap dollars)
Prescott made 31.4 million (cap dollars)

Shock #2
If the Chiefs (for whatever reason) decide to move on from Mahomes after 2024, Patrick will have ‘only’ earned 34.5 million per year, and there will be ZERO dead cap. Chiefs will owe Patrick nada-zip-zero at that point.

Shock #3
Only in 2025, when Mahomes is 30, does serious money kick in, and *none* of that +30 money is guaranteed. So if Mahomes has a debilitating injury, has surprisingly declined, or the NFL salary cap hasn't risen dramatically as expected--the Chiefs can say, "We have eternal gratitude, but...."

Shock #4
If NFL revenues expand and Mahomes continues to thrive the Chiefs have total contractual control to keep Mahomes as a Chief...year by year... until Patrick is age 37. (Re-negotiation likely at some point if Chiefs desire)

Doubt it?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/

I want Dak as a Cowboy, but *only* under terms that won't cripple the team. If Dak's agent wants $35 mil per year, I say: pound sand.

ROLMAO

Dude you gotta do better.
From your very own link:
Contract Notes:

• $63M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2020 salary + 2021 salary + 2021 roster bonus + 2022 salary + 2022 roster bonus)
• 2023 salary & roster bonus + workout bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league of 2021 ($100M of total dead cap)
• 2024 salary & roster bonus + workout bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league day of 2022 ($113.3M of total dead cap)
• 2025 roster bonus + workout bonus fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2023 ($121.3M of total dead cap)
• 2025 salary + workout bonus fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2024 ($81.9M of total dead cap)
• 2026 roster bonus fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2025 ($80.85M of total dead cap)
• 2026 salary + workout bonus , 2027 roster bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league day of 2026 ($91.35M of total dead cap)
• 2027 salary + workout bonus + 2028 salary + 2028 roster bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league of 2027 ($104M of total dead cap)
• 2029 salary + workout bonus & 2029 roster bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league day of 2028 ($89.4M of total dead cap)
• 2030 salary & 2030 roster bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league day of 2029 ($94.85M of total dead cap)
• 2031 roster bonus fully guarantee on the 3rd league day of 2030 ($63.8M of total dead cap)
• 2031 base salary fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2031 ($51.9M of total dead cap)
• 2022-2031: $2.5 million incentives ($1.25 million winning AFC Champ Game $1.25 million NFL MVP)
• No Trade Clause

 

[Captain-Crash]

The only way Dak’s salary has a cap hit of 35+ mill is if he’s tagged again. When he signs his cap hit will be way, way lower. The haters are too ignorant to realize this and or just use the average over the life of the contract including signing bonuses to further their hate.

call them "trolls" and call other names daddy. then donate more money so the mods won't do anything to you.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Has any team won a super bowl with a QB getting +30 cap hit that year. Asking for a friend.

There have only been four instances of qbs even having a $30 million + cap hit in the history of the league to date, but eventually all starting qbs will make that and even more.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We are all butt-weary of talking Dak's contract. This household sure is. I just want to enjoy sports w/out the fuss. But money dictates a lot of sports success, whether we like it or not.

For your “dining pleasure” here are some surprising facts about Patrick Mahomes’ contract. KC's GM is truly a financial wizard. This kind of data absolutely impacts other QBs, including Mr. Prescott.

Shock #1
In 2020:
Mahomes made 10.8 million (cap dollars)
Prescott made 31.4 million (cap dollars)

Shock #2
If the Chiefs (for whatever reason) decide to move on from Mahomes after 2024, Patrick will have ‘only’ earned 34.5 million per year, and there will be ZERO dead cap. Chiefs will owe Patrick nada-zip-zero at that point.

Shock #3
Only in 2025, when Mahomes is 30, does serious money kick in, and *none* of that +30 money is guaranteed. So if Mahomes has a debilitating injury, has surprisingly declined, or the NFL salary cap hasn't risen dramatically as expected--the Chiefs can say, "We have eternal gratitude, but...."

Shock #4
If NFL revenues expand and Mahomes continues to thrive the Chiefs have total contractual control to keep Mahomes as a Chief...year by year... until Patrick is age 37. (Re-negotiation likely at some point if Chiefs desire)

Doubt it?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/

I want Dak as a Cowboy, but *only* under terms that won't cripple the team. If Dak's agent wants $35 mil per year, I say: pound sand.

So your shocked at things that are common knowledge? Dak contract isnt crippling anything. Cowboys issues have NOTHING to do with cap space. Nothing at all.

If you ARE worried about the Cap then paying duds like Zeke and Jaylon should concern you more.

You should actually be thankful we have a top 7 QB that we want to pay 35 million a year to. 20 plus other teams wish they could dole out that kind of money to Dak.

Cowboys prepared for Dak and the Cap and have plenty of money to sign him. In fact, if Dak signs long term they will have cap room left over.

 

[CowboyRoy]

There have only been four instances of qbs even having a $30 million + cap hit in the history of the league to date, but eventually all starting qbs will make that and even more.

LOL........EXACTLY. All top 10 QB's will have a salary like that for the team lucky enough to have a top 10 QB. The rest of the NFL will be rolling out the Dalton's of the world or rolling the dice on the next rookie QB and praying he becomes good enough that they can pay him 35 million per year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Chiefs better hope they win another 2 or 3 super bowls starting now. Once the contracts of the support around him start expiring they won't be able to keep anyone due to the major cap hit this obscene contract for Mahomes will/has caused.

Yah, I am sure the Chiefs fans and FO are shaking in their boots that they have Mahomes locked up for the next decade.

Only Dak hating cry babies would make up this kind of dumb logic.

 

[Tenkamenin]

Brady has all day to throw. He never would’ve succeeded in Dallas.

 

[T-RO]

ROLMAO

• $63M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2020 salary + 2021 salary + 2021 roster bonus + 2022 salary + 2022 roster bonus)

You want to talk guarantees?

Zeke got $50 mil guaranteed, nearly as much. And he's just a running back. For comparison Matt Ryan got $100 mil guaranteed and that contract was back in 2018.

Mahomes is the best player at the most premium position in the sport.

 

[jterrell]

You want to talk guarantees?

Zeke got $50 mil guaranteed, nearly as much. And he's just a running back. For comparison Matt Ryan got $100 mil guaranteed and that contract was back in 2018.

Mahomes is the best player at the most premium position in the sport.

LOL dude I am not sure what you are even talking about.

You made a completely insane post about Pat having no guarantees or being cut for nothing.

Again, just use the link you provided....
63M GTD at signing but 141 GTD overall.

Pat's contract drove prices up and we saw that as shortly therafter Watson got near 40M AAV.

Dak's going to get insane money as will Josh Allen and any other young QB teams feel are franchise guys.
It's how it works.

Not that this has ANY^THING to do with Zeke
He had 28M GTD at signing and 50M GTD overall.
Zeke will be lucky to see all that 50M.

Pat is almost certainly going to see all 450M dollars of his deal.

 

[Adreme]

Little hint here: A rookie contract is the contract a rookie gets. Mahomes 10-year contract was *not* that.

I know which is what I was saying but the OP is referring to Mahomes cap hit THIS year as though it is somehow part of the extension when it very clearly is not. The extension starts up in 2 years so talking about this years cap hit like its part of the extension is flagrantly dishonest.

 

[nightrain]

$160M the first 3 years....nice haul......no shock there

 

[Beaker42]

The only way Dak’s salary has a cap hit of 35+ mill is if he’s tagged again. When he signs his cap hit will be way, way lower. The haters are too ignorant to realize this and or just use the average over the life of the contract including signing bonuses to further their hate.

Bottom line is Dak is not in Mahomes’ universe of success - yet. He can’t ask for more per year. Not yet.

 

[basel90]

We are all butt-weary of talking Dak's contract. This household sure is. I just want to enjoy sports w/out the fuss. But money dictates a lot of sports success, whether we like it or not.

For your “dining pleasure” here are some surprising facts about Patrick Mahomes’ contract. KC's GM is truly a financial wizard. This kind of data absolutely impacts other QBs, including Mr. Prescott.

Shock #1
In 2020:
Mahomes made 10.8 million (cap dollars)
Prescott made 31.4 million (cap dollars)

Shock #2
If the Chiefs (for whatever reason) decide to move on from Mahomes after 2024, Patrick will have ‘only’ earned 34.5 million per year, and there will be ZERO dead cap. Chiefs will owe Patrick nada-zip-zero at that point.

Shock #3
Only in 2025, when Mahomes is 30, does serious money kick in, and *none* of that +30 money is guaranteed. So if Mahomes has a debilitating injury, has surprisingly declined, or the NFL salary cap hasn't risen dramatically as expected--the Chiefs can say, "We have eternal gratitude, but...."

Shock #4
If NFL revenues expand and Mahomes continues to thrive the Chiefs have total contractual control to keep Mahomes as a Chief...year by year... until Patrick is age 37. (Re-negotiation likely at some point if Chiefs desire)

Doubt it?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/

I want Dak as a Cowboy, but *only* under terms that won't cripple the team. If Dak's agent wants $35 mil per year, I say: pound sand.

Amazing facts , and makes clear how Dak salary demands are ridiculous.