Shorter passes is that the answer in 2023?

[RonnieT24]

Nothing to do with 'smart', the issue is his processing time when he's faced with a Defense that changes between pre-post-snap....his immediate 'flight' response takes hold as the anxiety and panic hits. I wonder if taking Dak out of the comfort-zone, in practice, and showing him repeatedly a Defense that changes will help.....but then again so many people deflect away from Dak I suppose this will just be ignored as we look look for the next scapegoat.

You do realize that you're talking about the QB who has been top 5 against blitzes and pressure in the league over the past three seasons right? Just making sure we're talking about the same guy.. Dak's problem isn't panic and flight. In fact it's the opposite. If anything he sits in the pocket too long and trusts his line to protect him more than he should. He SHOULD bail out and take off more than he does. Your characterization could not be more wrong.

 

[Jarntt]

The key is quicker decisions and getting the ball out quicker. It isn't necessarily shorter passes. Our decision making at QB is lacking. Add that to the lack of zip on the ball and IO think that is where we get into trouble. We need to work on a little of that west coast type stuff. Also more PAP. Keep it simple for the Offense but not simple for the defense to diagnose.

 

[CATCH17]

Whatever makes Dak process less information and just get the ball out im down for.

When the dude thinks bad things happen.

 

[CATCH17]

You do realize that you're talking about the QB who has been top 5 against blitzes and pressure in the league over the past three seasons right? Just making sure we're talking about the same guy.. Dak's problem isn't panic and flight. In fact it's the opposite. If anything he sits in the pocket too long and trusts his line to protect him more than he should. He SHOULD bail out and take off more than he does. Your characterization could not be more wrong.

Quit looking at stats.

He had a better post season than Burrow statistically. It’s garbage and just a way to muddy up what’s evident l.

 

[Aftershock]

How can we expect shorter passes when Dak can't even hit a wide open RB on a swing pass?​

 

[CowboyoWales]

You do realize that you're talking about the QB who has been top 5 against blitzes and pressure in the league over the past three seasons right? Just making sure we're talking about the same guy.. Dak's problem isn't panic and flight. In fact it's the opposite. If anything he sits in the pocket too long and trusts his line to protect him more than he should. He SHOULD bail out and take off more than he does. Your characterization could not be more wrong.

He panic's and crumbles when something isnt right or he needs to step up. I do agree that he should take off, however, I dont think he's able to on a lot of plays as he's still going through the progressions. I would say a short sharp WCO and the option to bail out or give him a check out RB may help his anxiety at trying to work the Defensive pattern as it unravels against his progressions.

 

[JBS]

Whatever makes Dak process less information and just get the ball out im down for.

When the dude thinks bad things happen.

This is what people don’t understand. Coaching and scheme can hide warts.

 

[CowboyoWales]

So what does the team do......get rid of Dak, get rid of Zeke.......what happens then? Who becomes the "cheap" QB? Not too simple as that. Fix one or two problems to make several more. What you think?

We continue the soft-rebuild, which was started (by design and luck thanks to Gregory) in 2022. I'm not rebuilding for Dak until he can at least show that he's capable of not falling off at the end of the season (both 2021 and 2022) and that he can retain some composure in adversity. I'd restructure the contract, not by extension, but by converting to Bonus: 23/24/25. Zeke's gone, paying $16m for a one dimensional runner is just a waste (post June him, to recoup $10.9).
We may need to trade for a WR to help Dak and any subsequent QB.

If there's a QB that we like, we take him in the draft.....it's not a matter who, as has been shown by Purdy and undrafted Rush you dont have to draft an 'elite' QB, could even look to signing a vet in 2024 (and/or drafting another QB) building the offense first and inserting the QB, just as happened with Dak. If Dak is good enough to get to play-off's but not to proceed through it (and falling apart when something goes wrong isnt the temperament of a winner) then paying him $52m is an oxymoron if you claim he need's pieces around him.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

A really potent running game and an offensive line that demolishes everything in front of them is what is needed.

 

[CATCH17]

This is what people don’t understand. Coaching and scheme can hide warts.

Because a lot of people on here thought Garrett was a good coach lol. They pointed to stats and such.

Dudes out of the league now and nobody will touch him but hey he has a solid record and stats.

 

[MyFairLady]

The only time I felt solid with Dak at QB was when he was a rookie. We ran a fantastic offense with a solid QB that was consistent and repeatable. No matter how things went we could count on it. Now I feel like we are either going to light up a crummy team or fold like a wet rag under the pressure of a good team. I would support Dak 100% even at his insane contract as long as we went back to the 2016 offense.

 

[MyFairLady]

It is crazy to think that we put so much work into developing the perfect offense that was tailor made for our rookie QB only to give him 160 million dollars and throw it out the window. Makes no sense to me.

 

[RonnieT24]

He panic's and crumbles when something isnt right or he needs to step up. I do agree that he should take off, however, I dont think he's able to on a lot of plays as he's still going through the progressions. I would say a short sharp WCO and the option to bail out or give him a check out RB may help his anxiety at trying to work the Defensive pattern as it unravels against his progressions.

For the sake of argument let's say you're right and Dak is no good at reading defenses and handling pressure. How then does he continue to be ranked among the top 5 in throws against pressure and against the blitz? Does this mean that the other 65 QBs who played in the league this year are even worse at it than he is? Something's not adding up here. I'm not claiming to know how often Dak misses reads or misses throws or whatever but statistically when pressured he has been lights out. To the point where most teams pretty much stopped blitzing him and opted to sit in zone and try to confuse him with coverages. Which works.. sometimes.. albeit statistically clearly he beats it more often than it works. Still got a ways to go before I'm happy with it.. but the notion that he's somehow bottom of the barrel at something so obvious and easy to see is ridiculous.

Dak is a good QB.. He has work to do to become a great QB.. I am rooting for him to continue on that trajectory as we all should. He took a step back this season with the INTs.. though more than a third of them hit receivers in the hands and got popped into the air. If the receivers just knock those down and they become incomplete passes and not INTs Dak finishes with like 23 TDs and 9 INTs? Which I think most of us would agree would have been a pretty good season. Oh and the Cowboys probably win at JAX and go into that last game at Washington with HFA to play for instead of the whole "we'll pull our starters at some point" glorified preseason game mentality. Win that game and clinch home field and who knows what happens. And the difference would have had nothing to do with how Dak played.. Six passes dropped instead of volley balled to the other team could have had this team 14-3 and hosting the NFC Championship. Changing absolutely nothing about Dak's play. You'd think the other 47 guys on the game day roster have a hand in the outcome of these games or something.

 

[CowboyoWales]

For the sake of argument let's say you're right and Dak is no good at reading defenses and handling pressure. How then does he continue to be ranked among the top 5 in throws against pressure and against the blitz? Does this mean that the other 65 QBs who played in the league this year are even worse at it than he is? Something's not adding up here. I'm not claiming to know how often Dak misses reads or misses throws or whatever but statistically when pressured he has been lights out. To the point where most teams pretty much stopped blitzing him and opted to sit in zone and try to confuse him with coverages. Which works.. sometimes.. albeit statistically clearly he beats it more often than it works. Still got a ways to go before I'm happy with it.. but the notion that he's somehow bottom of the barrel at something so obvious and easy to see is ridiculous.

Dak is a good QB.. He has work to do to become a great QB.. I am rooting for him to continue on that trajectory as we all should. He took a step back this season with the INTs.. though more than a third of them hit receivers in the hands and got popped into the air. If the receivers just knock those down and they become incomplete passes and not INTs Dak finishes with like 23 TDs and 9 INTs? Which I think most of us would agree would have been a pretty good season. Oh and the Cowboys probably win at JAX and go into that last game at Washington with HFA to play for instead of the whole "we'll pull our starters at some point" glorified preseason game mentality. Win that game and clinch home field and who knows what happens. And the difference would have had nothing to do with how Dak played.. Six passes dropped instead of volley balled to the other team could have had this team 14-3 and hosting the NFC Championship. Changing absolutely nothing about Dak's play. You'd think the other 47 guys on the game day roster have a hand in the outcome of these games or something.

Now check his QBR ratings' which never match his rating, he's in cricket parlance a 'flat track bully' performs against poorer sides, or he piles on yards and points when everything's going well.

As for pressure and blitz's, who's stupid enough to rush him....as Jimmie Ward said (twice), cut off the run game, cover and see if Dak can beat you. We know the answer.

 

[Bing]

Shorter passes? You mean like when its 3rd and 7 and Dak throws throws a 2 yard out with zero YAC. Those passes? ........woohoo superbowl.

 

[JBS]

Shorter passes? You mean like when its 3rd and 7 and Dak throws throws a 2 yard out with zero YAC. Those passes? ........woohoo superbowl.

Yes. The number 1 third down offense in the nfl

At least be intelligent with your critique ..I guess that’s too much to ask around here

 

[RonnieT24]

Yes. The number 1 third down offense in the nfl

At least be intelligent with your critique ..I guess that’s too much to ask around here

Yeah you're way out over your skis looking for intelligence in this bunch. There is some, but you gotta through a lotta garbage to find it. Too many of these posters seem to be holding out hope that the staff of Saturday Night Live or some standup comic is reading their material here and will hire them to write brain dead one-liners for them.

 

[kskboys]

Yeah you're way out over your skis looking for intelligence in this bunch. There is some, but you gotta through a lotta garbage to find it. Too many of these posters seem to be holding out hope that the staff of Saturday Night Live or some standup comic is reading their material here and will hire them to write brain dead one-liners for them.

No joke. That was about as dumb as complaining about Witten catching 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8. Hey, it's all on Witten, he just runs whatever he wants, right?