Should Carr have taken a knee at the one?

[Jenky]

Nope. I needed the fantasy points. Thanks to the Dallas D, I was able to beat my opponent.


But in all seriousness, yes he should have scored. I've seen strange things happen like the ball being intercepted off of Jason Witten's shoe laces.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The Giants had 2 timeouts.



There is nothing guaranteed. You run the ball into the endzone for the score in that situation just as Carr did. What if he does stop at the one and on the very next snap there is a fumbled exchange between the center and QB for Dallas? Almost anything can happen at any given moment. When you can definitely score a TD and provide a double digit lead, you do so.

there are no guarantees in the NFL. But, you try to play the odds in best your favor.

As much as I don't like Jaworski, he has an all time classic line of 'it's not about certainty, it's about probability.'

I think there are a lot of things to consider here, even with 2 Timeouts.

Takes a Knee at the 1-yard line

The Cowboys would have likely taken a knee 3 times, burned the Giants timeouts, and kicked a FG to go up by 9. The G-Men probably get the ball back with 45-55 seconds, assuming they don't return the kick (which happened all night). They would have to drive 80 yards with no timeouts. The best play for the G-Men would be to quickly get into FG range, kick the FG. Then recover an onside kick and then throw a hail mary


Scores the TD

The big thing here is that the G-Men needed to score more quickly than they did. Still, if you argue against the 'take the knee at the 1-yard line', then you are expecting the G-men to score a TD within 45-55 seconds. And if you expect them to do that there, then you can argue that they could do the same with 1:50 seconds left. If the G-Men did score a TD in 50 seconds, then they have an onside kick with 1 minute left. The big difference is that they would still have to score a TD.

I still prefer the knee at the 1-yard line, but it's impossible to ask a player to think that ahead given the situation and particularly since the ball just happened to fall in his lap.







YR

 

[Jenky]

there are no guarantees in the NFL. But, you try to play the odds in best your favor.

As much as I don't like Jaworski, he has an all time classic line of 'it's not about certainty, it's about probability.'

I think there are a lot of things to consider here, even with 2 Timeouts.

Takes a Knee at the 1-yard line

The Cowboys would have likely taken a knee 3 times, burned the Giants timeouts, and kicked a FG to go up by 9. The G-Men probably get the ball back with 45-55 seconds, assuming they don't return the kick (which happened all night). They would have to drive 80 yards with no timeouts. The best play for the G-Men would be to quickly get into FG range, kick the FG. Then recover an onside kick and then throw a hail mary


Scores the TD

The big thing here is that the G-Men needed to score more quickly than they did. Still, if you argue against the 'take the knee at the 1-yard line', then you are expecting the G-men to score a TD within 45-55 seconds. And if you expect them to do that there, then you can argue that they could do the same with 1:50 seconds left. If the G-Men did score a TD in 50 seconds, then they have an onside kick with 1 minute left. The big difference is that they would still have to score a TD.

I still prefer the knee at the 1-yard line, but it's impossible to ask a player to think that ahead given the situation and particularly since the ball just happened to fall in his lap.







YR

The FG is still not a guarantee. Sorry, but I disagree.

 

[conner01]

i think it's a good point but for me you always take the td and force them to have to score 2 td's. you never know what can happen in a fotball game

 

[iceman117]

Yes, but we would have wasted a ton of time with three kneel downs and a FG. Remember, Carr scored with less than 2 minutes left.

in some scenario's I think it' s a good call, not this play though. Glad Carr brought that in, he has been a great signing through 17 games

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The FG is still not a guarantee. Sorry, but I disagree.

And neither is not allowing Eli to score a TD quickly.

Do you think the Cowboys have a better odds of making a 19-yard FG attempt or stopping Eli from scoring a TD in less than 60 seconds?

And if the FG is missed, the Giants would get the ball at their own 9 yard line and would have to drive 91 yards with no timeouts. And I was told that the scenario would be more likely with 35 seconds on the game clock than 45-55 seconds.




YR

 

[anj113]

I understand in the "heat of the moment" it's probably unfair to ask for that type of contemplation, but in your assessment, would we have been better off with Carr taking a knee at the one and kicking a FG?

Hell NO!!! we were only up by 6 points....Scoring was DEF the right thing to do

 

[Proximo]

Ha, hilarious how those dismissing the question can't seem to vocalize an intellectual reason as to why they are dismissing it.

Yea, it's definitely a legit question worth discussing. Not sure why some are calling it silly and what not?

Like another poster already pointed out, I think the "right" decision in this situation would be dependent on how many time outs the other team has. Either way I think it leads to a Cowboys win in last night's game.

At the same time though, most cornerbacks are probably taking that to the house every time. Can't say I blame them.

 

[jobberone]

Scoring and making the 2pt conversion would be the best scenario. I wouldn't expect anyone to stop at the 1 inch line. Also the FG could have been blocked and run in for a score. You score and then you play better football to make the Giants at least burn up the clock trying to score.

 

[Angus12]

Take the guaranteed points.

How upset would people be today if Carr HAD taken a knee. And the FG was missed. Slim chance, I know. But it happens. Or the FG was blocked? And, God forbid, returned for a TD.

Take the guaranteed points. Force them to have to get two touchdowns, and take chance and fate out of the equation.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Scoring and making the 2pt conversion would be the best scenario. I wouldn't expect anyone to stop at the 1 inch line. Also the FG could have been blocked and run in for a score. You score and then you play better football to make the Giants at least burn up the clock trying to score.

Exactly, .. Carr had no way of knowing that we would miss the 2 pt conversion.

Had we made it, we would have been up two TD's.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

And they certainly would not have completed a 80 TD on our prevent D.

I'm pretty sure the Broncos said something similar in the playoffs.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I have coached youth sports for 24-25 years.

Couple of things that I have learned about coaching during games.

1. Don't get too cute, .. put the ball predominately in the hands of your stars, and ...
2. Don't over-coach. Sometimes you can over think things, .. it is usually better to just get out of their way and let the players win and lose the game.

Number 2 applies in this case, .. don't over think it, .. let Carr win or lose the game with his play.

One example of No. 1 is throwing the ball to Williams in the RedZone when you have MA, DB and JW.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I understand in the "heat of the moment" it's probably unfair to ask for that type of contemplation, but in your assessment, would we have been better off with Carr taking a knee at the one and kicking a FG?

if Giants had no timeouts left maybe, but they had two left so no way you take a knee

 

[Nova]

Not a bad question.

I can see how taking a knee and then running as much time off the clock to set up a FG would have been ideal. But I've seen this team bobble a gimme FG snap to lose a playoff game... so if points are there, then take them.

The only time he should have taken a knee if there was less than a minute left and they didn't have all their timeouts-- ensuring that they would not get possession back.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Was I the only one who saw Brady fumble a goalline exchange yesterday?

 

[GusTheo]

Take the guaranteed points.

How upset would people be today if Carr HAD taken a knee. And the FG was missed. Slim chance, I know. But it happens. Or the FG was blocked? And, God forbid, returned for a TD.

Take the guaranteed points. Force them to have to get two touchdowns, and take chance and fate out of the equation.

How upset would you be if the Giants had recovered the on sides kick? They came very close, it was anyone's ball, thank god Sean Lee came up with it.

I think it's a legit question, I can't understand for the life of me people so quick to dismiss it.

Personally I take the TD, guaranteed points, and let your defense just keep everything in front and make their tackles. I was very impressed, I haven't seen a cowboys D that disciplined tackling since parcells' first season here.