Should Cowboys Make Julio Jones-Type Trade?

[Verdict]

Additionally, a team like Cleveland would have been stupid not to take what Atlanta gave up in that trade. That trade was a Herscell Walker lite type of trade. Cleveland just squandered the picks.

Giving up a first, second and a third would move us up significantly (inside the top 10) regardless of what the draft chart values are. It might get you up in the top 5. That is a lot to give up.

To give up what the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones the guy had better be a generational type of talent. Luckily for the Falcons it worked out well for them .

 

[SDCowboy]

I would not personally trade up more than a few spots in this draft and would actually prefer if we moved back and acquired picks. I would say that there is likely not a player in this entire draft worth what Atlanta gave up to get Julio Jones and there is no way of knowing for sure what you are getting with that pick, or the players we would be giving up to move that far up.

The pick we used on Dak was largely an afterthought and look how that worked out. Players can be found in the late rounds if used correctly.

Yeah but you can't really count on a Dak level score, like, ever.

 

[sideon]

Not no but hell no. We had the 14th ranked defense without our 2 best pass rushers in the draft Smith and Tapper playing .

We need to select solid DL early in draft to compliment our current roster .

These additions should be enough to provide a better pass rush elevating us to a top ten defense .

They're losing more in the secondary, so if Jones, Tabor, or Peppers is there at #28 i'd go with one of them.

 

[Verdict]

Yeah but you can't really count on a Dak level score, like, ever.

I agree that you can't count on that happening with a single pick. But you should be able to count on at least one solid contributor out of rounds 5-7 every year. Scandrick was a 5th if I remember correctly, Brown was a 6th. Jay Ratliff a 7th.

I can assure you there will be guys in the 5th, 6th and 7th Round who will be great value. If they are selected in the 6th or 7th rounds that means that the Cowboys had an opportunity to select them even with that late 5th round pick. You just have to be able to draft well.

Overall the Cowboys have drafted well. Three UDFA's who stick and contribute would also sweeten the pot.

 

[DandyDon52]

Well if they did it , there is no way to know they would be getting a player worth it all, Atlanta did.
I dont think dallas will do anything like that, maybe 1 pick to move up a little.

 

[JD_KaPow]

A trade up like that could get you Julio Jones, but it could also get you Ricky Williams, or RGIII, or Leaf, or...the list goes on. Yes, it worked out well for the Falcons, but that's a real rarity, and who knows what they could have done if they'd just kept all those other picks?

 

[SDCowboy]

I agree that you can't count on that happening with a single pick. But you should be able to count on at least one solid contributor out of rounds 5-7 every year. Scandrick was a 5th if I remember correctly, Brown was a 6th. Jay Ratliff a 7th.

I can assure you there will be guys in the 5th, 6th and 7th Round who will be great value. If they are selected in the 6th or 7th rounds that means that the Cowboys had an opportunity to select them even with that late 5th round pick. You just have to be able to draft well.

Overall the Cowboys have drafted well. Three UDFA's who stick and contribute would also sweeten the pot.

Fair enough point.

 

[EST_1986]

You're going to be disappointed come draft day.

I mean as far as making a Julio Jones type trade

 

[big dog cowboy]

Should Cowboys Make Julio Jones-Type Trade?

I would be against a trade like that big time.

It wouldn't solve our problems as there are multiple additions that need made.

 

[visionary]

No

 

[tm1119]

Would just like to point out that this is the 1st time the Falcons have made the playoffs since 2013 and the Julio trade was 2011. As great as Julio is I'm not sure you can call that trade an outright win for the Falcons organization. Sure 6 years later they are in the super bowl, but who knows what would have happened had they kept those 5 picks.

 

[TNCowboy]

Garrett is a specimen, but dinged up too easily, and a guy who feasted on underwhelming competition. He often disappeared against the better teams. No way I'd trade most of a draft for him.

History has shown us there will be good players available whether we trade up a few spots or not. Adding a DE, even a great one, will not automatically fix the defense. We just need to keep adding good players to the roster.

 

[DFWJC]

I could see us moving up a few spots, but not as much as the Falcons did in 2011. Here'a link to the ESPN article:

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4758031/should-cowboys-make-julio-jones-type-trade

If Garrett goes #1 overall, it'd be nearly impossible for us to move up that much. Maybe 3 years of 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders...maybe?

The Jones trade was about have as expensive as this would be.
Not happening

 

[TNCowboy]

They're losing more in the secondary, so if Jones, Tabor, or Peppers is there at #28 i'd go with one of them.

With Tabor's off the field issues, I'd avoid him like the plague.

I don't think Peppers has a real position. There's no way I'm dropping a 1st round pick on a defensive back who had 1 interception in 3 years.

 

[reddyuta]

No Way , our defense is severly depleted and we don't have a 5th rd pick too.

 

[HowBoutThemBoys]

Normally I would say the idea of a Julio Jones type trade is plain stupid. But I honestly feel that we're one great pass rusher away from a Super Bowl. Is Myles Garrett that guy? Who knows. It always worries me when one of a guy's top criticisms is his work ethic. I'd much rather trade up to around around 15 for Barnett and keep our first rounder next year.

 

[cmoney23]

How's that Mo Claiborne trade working out?

 

[Hardline]

NO. I don't see what's so legendary about Myles Garrett

He racked up his sacks against division II schools and disappeared again top competition.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Look how long it took Atlanta to make it to the superbowl after that trade. They had only 1 playoff win until this season.

We need to stay the course and continue to draft young talent

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I would not be for it. Jones is an offensive player and offensive players have historically not gotten injured nearly as much as defensive players.

We are likely in the hunt for a defensive player if we were to make that type of trade. Defensive players are more than 3x likely to get injured than offensive players in the NFL. And we have seen that first hand with this team under Garrett...our defensive gets far more banged up than our offense.

The risk is too high and on defense you're better off seeking depth than hoping to find that Von Miller or Lawrence Taylor type that can totally transform your defense.

Another part to this is take somebody like Richard Sherman who is arguably the best cornerback in the league (who Seattle got in the 4th round). However, when Earl Thomas went out for the season, the Seahawks defense was no longer dominant.

Furthermore, Lawrence Taylor had great teammates and so did Von Miller. Sure, Taylor and Miller made their players better, but when you're talking about offensive versus defensive players and trading way up for them, it's a completely different ballgame.

I also think that this team could vastly improve with a major upgrade at the MIKE or SS. Supposedly, Jaylon Smith will be there guy for the MIKE next year. But at the safety position, where we are drafting is often a great place to find that game changing safety.






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