Video: Should Dak Prescott be concerned with Joe Milton joining the Cowboys?

[Blackrain]

YES. Voters have been wrong before. Look I do RESPECT Dak for the Herculean task of leading a team as a rookie from the QB position. I think it took more "work" for Dak...but Zeke was a physical alpha that just dominated the NFL. The lack of answers for Zeke opened up things for a rookie. Period. Now, Dak did play within himself but he was NO CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels...he was a PASSENGER ON THE BUS.

This is true but Dak was not drafted as high as those other players and was not expected to do what he did he gave us incredible value and continued to progress with his game as the years went by.
The problem was as his game progressed and he learned the mental game of the NFL Zeke aged in dog years and was not the force he was as a rookie.
And whether anyone wants to acknowledge it or not the loss of Travis Frederick was truly the downfall of the team.

Hey everyone's excited about the physical tools that Joe Milton possesses but until Jerry decides to build the team right it won't matter who's quarterback Joe Milton could come in and wow everybody running for his life until he gets injured like everybody else does trying to pull the rabbit out of the hat because Jerry does not build the team correctly.

Look what he said about Romo that he didn't need to build the offensive line because he had him.
By the time he got with the program built the line and got a running game for Tony Tony's body was shot.
Now Dak has sustained quite a few injuries and is headed in the same direction because Jerry won't go all in.

Joe Milton could set the world on fire with all his physical tools running ability Big arm until he gets popped and injured and a step slow because Jerry refuses to build the team correctly and now we have a coach that wants to build from the outside in instead of concentrate on the trenches like the successful teams in our division do.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You're kidding?

This is the first I've heard of any health issues you are having. Sincerely sorry to hear and hope for nothing but the best for you.

BUT

It's a punk move to talk the disrespectful crap you regularly do then hide behind your health issues. I guarantee you are far from the only one who has serious health battles to fight. Guaranteed, if you know what I'm saying.

The difference is, the majority don't pull that out as a shield to excuse our behavior.

You don't get to hate and disrespect people than turn around and claim you love and respect everyone "honestly" just because you have a serious personal battle to fight.

Good luck. Medical care has advanced so much in my lifetime. We can survive and thrive after things that our parents generation couldn't have overcome.

It was my personal experience that someone with hard cancer had little time nor ESPECIALLY the inclination to be on social media...let alone incessantly argue on it.

This is not an AC attack...just a simple comment on my personal experience.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This is true but Dak was not drafted as high as those other players and was not expected to do what he did he gave us incredible value and continued to progress with his game as the years went by.
The problem was as his game progressed and he learned the mental game of the NFL Zeke aged in dog years and was not the force he was as a rookie.
And whether anyone wants to acknowledge it or not the loss of Travis Frederick was truly the downfall of the team.

Hey everyone's excited about the physical tools that Joe Milton possesses but until Jerry decides to build the team right it won't matter who's quarterback Joe Milton could come in and wow everybody running for his life until he gets injured like everybody else does trying to pull the rabbit out of the hat because Jerry does not build the team correctly.

Look what he said about Romo that he didn't need to build the offensive line because he had him.
By the time he got with the program built the line and got a running game for Tony Tony's body was shot.
Now Dak has sustained quite a few injuries and is headed in the same direction because Jerry won't go all in.

Joe Milton could set the world on fire with all his physical tools running ability Big arm until he gets popped and injured and a step slow because Jerry refuses to build the team correctly and now we have a coach that wants to build from the outside in instead of concentrate on the trenches like the successful teams in our division do.

Again...Mr. Rain...think about what you just said. What kind of team do those high draft picks go to? Really crappy...high drafting teams. So OF COURSE they can't perform as well.

It's a very rare situation. ....But rookies burrow, CJ, Daniels...on a fully loaded divisional champion...and see what happens.

And the contrary is put Dak on the Bengals...see what happens.

It's all moot of course, but I think the best tactic is for the extremes to dial back. We certainly CAN and SHOULD give Dak some credit for a nice rookie year...but certainly NOT a usual situation for a rook. The TEAM...a GOOD team not a crappy perennial loser... helped Dak succeed...plain and simple.

 

[DallasEast]

Do you really think PFW & The Sporting News are major anything anymore?

This is an interesting angle. Do I think Pro Football Weekly and The Sporting News as major? I guess not but in terms that I used a poor adjective.

When I stated 'major' I meant it as those three sources as being the most distinctive among all publications and/or sports news agencies that were/are: a) widely recognized, b) considered as 'knowledgeable' sports media critics, and c) perform an annual award assignment process. United Press International was similarly seen as doing such before becoming defunct. I think it is safe saying a thorough, historical, sports statistics archivist, such as Pro-Football-Reference.com would agree.

Should PFW and TSN opinion be discredited to any degree because you (and perhaps other members) do not consider them as 'major', etc.--either now or in the past?

 

[DallasEast]

This substantiates my point (I believe). The RB position is not respected and in 2016 was probably more devalued than it is today...and yet...Zeke got 42% of the vote...over a QB. On his own team.

It supports your stance Ezekiel Elliott was seen as a significant offensive contributor in his rookie year according to the Associated Press. It neither diminishes nor dismisses Dak Prescott's offensive rookie contributions, which were also recognized by the AP.

In short, what it does is fit each differing opinion within a more comprehensive and balanced perspective for discussion purposes. Or, at least it tries too, lol.

 

[DallasEast]

A travesty they gave ROTY to Dak. Dak played well enough...but zeke was beast mode,..and to his detriment. There were people HERE who complained he couldn't match or beat that year every single year after.

Personally, I would not describe it as a travesty or wrong but would like to know what the AP voters thought process was. The exact same folks, who voted 56%/42% in favor of Dak Prescott over Ezekiel Elliott for Offensive Rookie of the Year, also voted for league Most Valuable Player, as shown below:

Rk   Pos          Player                   Tm Votes Share
1     QB       Matt Ryan      Atlanta Falcons  25.0   50%
2     QB       Tom Brady New England Patriots  10.0   20%
3     QB      Derek Carr      Oakland Raiders   6.0   12%
4     RB Ezekiel Elliott       Dallas Cowboys   6.0   12%
5     QB   Aaron Rodgers    Green Bay Packers   2.0    4%
6     QB    Dak Prescott       Dallas Cowboys   1.0    2%

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 4/7/2025.

To me, whatever methodology they used is contradictory. On one hand, the AP, as a group, voted Prescott over Elliott for ORTY.

On the other hand, the AP's collective body voted for six candidates for MVP, all of which were offensive players, but 12% of the votes when to Elliott and 2% went to Prescott. Additionally, the AP's MVP vote breakdown (again, ALL offensive players involved) favored Elliott 85% to 15% (6 to 1) if all votes are omitted for the other four candidates.

~Rant~ This is the sort of crap that always grinds my gears over all media-sponsored sports awards. There should be transparency in how each media representative cast their vote, especially for major sports' Hall of Fames. Final voting results do not often make a lick of sense.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Another very telling statement, indicative of your prepubescent thought process at work.

Dak is not my QB, nor is he your QB. He is the Dallas Cowboys QB. Your childlike emotional attachment to the hero figure you apparently lack in a real life speaks volumes about your maturity and overall mental state of being.

Further evidence of this would be your very emotional and hypocritical attitude for another QB who was also your QB, at least by the same standards you are using here.

You are a fascinating specimen. Thanks for the show.

AC doesn't realize how that betrays him. Lecturing others about "like it or not...your QB"...while bashing other Cowboys QBs?

HAS to be a fake schtick. It's too obvious.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

It supports your stance Ezekiel Elliott was seen as a significant offensive contributor in his rookie year according to the Associated Press. It neither diminishes nor dismisses Dak Prescott's offensive rookie contributions, which were also recognized by the AP.

In short, what it does is fit each differing opinion within a more comprehensive and balanced perspective for discussion purposes. Or, at least it tries too, lol.

That's what I tried to tell AC. There is merit in crediting both. We shouldn't uncivilly quibble about awards.

I think you can credit Dak...AND "THE TEAM"...because as AC ....sometimes says (during a loss)...it's a team game.

We certainly should account for the good team Dak started for...a team most rookie QB's don't get to QB.

 

[5Stars]

I'm feeling some Rockport 2.0 vibes from him...

That is what I am thinking. I might be wrong, but I think AC invented Rockport because they act and say the same things. I got a IM from Rockport the other day calling me all kind of bad names, and I swear, it sounded just like something AC would do, spelling and all.

Can you say, burner account?

 

[CowboyFrog]

Personally, I would not describe it as a travesty or wrong but would like to know what the AP voters thought process was. The exact same folks, who voted 56%/42% in favor of Dak Prescott over Ezekiel Elliott for Offensive Rookie of the Year, also voted for league Most Valuable Player, as shown below:

Rk   Pos          Player                   Tm Votes Share
1     QB       Matt Ryan      Atlanta Falcons  25.0   50%
2     QB       Tom Brady New England Patriots  10.0   20%
3     QB      Derek Carr      Oakland Raiders   6.0   12%
4     RB Ezekiel Elliott       Dallas Cowboys   6.0   12%
5     QB   Aaron Rodgers    Green Bay Packers   2.0    4%
6     QB    Dak Prescott       Dallas Cowboys   1.0    2%

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 4/7/2025.

To me, whatever methodology they used is contradictory. On one hand, the AP, as a group, voted Prescott over Elliott for ORTY.

On the other hand, the AP's collective body voted for six candidates for MVP, all of which were offensive players, but 12% of the votes when to Elliott and 2% went to Prescott. Additionally, the AP's MVP vote breakdown (again, ALL offensive players involved) favored Elliott 85% to 15% (6 to 1) if all votes are omitted for the other four candidates.

~Rant~ This is the sort of crap that always grinds my gears over all media-sponsored sports awards. There should be transparency in how each media representative cast their vote, especially for major sports' Hall of Fames. Final voting results do not often make a lick of sense.

To me (no doubt it could be just me) ROTY would be more of a Dak award as to me (again maybe only to me) playing QB as a rookie seems harder than the RB....It would also make sense to me (again) that Zeke would've been higher on my list for MVP because of what he meant to the teams actual results on the field....Meh it makes sense to me i guess..lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

That is what I am thinking. I might be wrong, but I think AC invented Rockport because they act and say the same things. I got a IM from Rockport the other day calling me all kind of bad names, and I swear, it sounded just like something AC would do, spelling and all.

Can you say, burner account?

Dude …

He sends you hateful IMs too? And here I thought I was special.

 

[Vtwin]

AC doesn't realize how that betrays him. Lecturing others about "like it or not...your QB"...while bashing other Cowboys QBs?

HAS to be a fake schtick. It's too obvious.

It could be fake but I wonder why anyone would want to fake such a thing knowing how ridiculous it makes them look.

Another irony that occurs to me is that the day Romo went down and Dak took over I'd be willing to bet that AC felt joy.

In other words, the same guy that goes out of his way to misinterpret any and all mentions of injury in benign context so he can lob grenades against another's character, celebrated the injury to the QB he hated.

If he is faking this I hope he has someone close to him who he will listen to that will give him some real talk.

 

[75boyz]

I don't think Dak is looking over his shoulder, nor do I think Milton could challenge him for the starting QB position. But, I also don't think Dak will make it through this season without being injured. Dak's body is starting to fail him just like Romo's body did to him. The real question is, when Dak gets hurt, will we see Grier or Milton? I've seen Grier play, I'd like to see what Milton could do if given the chance over the span of a few games. One thing is for sure: Milton presents the only real dual-threat QB on the team.

Great, accurate post.

 

[Vtwin]

got a IM from Rockport the other day

He sends you hateful IMs too? And here I thought I was special

I got one too. Out of the blue. Told me how happy he was that I was *triggered" in the Disney thread.

Guy really knows how to enjoy retirement in Hawaii.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

how did the playoffs work out

The same way Dak's did...

 

[5Stars]

Dude …

He sends you hateful IMs too? And here I thought I was special.

Why the hell would Rockport even think about reaching out to me? I have not seen him on the forum for months, and months, then I get an IM.

The first thing he told me was, you hate Dak because he is black. I was stunned! I told him to take that crap and shove it and then I let it go, then he responded to me calling me all kinds of vile things that I will not mention here.

Now, maybe I'm paranoid or whatever, but Rockport's wording and dialect on that IM is almost exactly like something that AC would post on the forum.

So, how come Rockport does not post on the forum? Rockport also told me the the reason he can't call me the vile names that he did on the IM is because the mods won't allow it.

All I could do is just read his nasty rant towards me. Very strange, indeed!

 

[CowboyFrog]

Why the hell would Rockport even think about reaching out to me? I have not seen him on the forum for months, and months, then I get an IM.

The first thing he told me was, you hate Dak because he is black. I was stunned! I told him to take that crap and shove it and then I let it go, then he responded to me calling me all kinds of vile things that I will not mention here.

Now, maybe I'm paranoid or whatever, but Rockport's wording and dialect on that IM is almost exactly like something that AC would post on the forum.

So, how come Rockport does not post on the forum? Rockport also told me the the reason he can't call me the vile names that he did on the IM is because the mods won't allow it.

All I could do is just read his nasty rant towards me. Very strange, indeed!

lol ....Rockport sliding into you're IM's aye? Thats hilarious..lol

 

[5Stars]

lol ....Rockport sliding into you're IM's aye? Thats hilarious..lol

When is the last time you saw a Rockport post on this forum? And, why did he lash out on me?

It has to be a burner account, same rhetoric, same tone, same sentence structure, everything the same as AC except the vile things he called me.

 

[CowboyFrog]

When is the last time you saw a Rockport post on this forum? And, why did he lash out on me?

It has to be a burner account, same rhetoric, same tone, same sentence structure, everything the same as AC except the vile things he called me.

yeah its been a while since Rock was on. i doubt its AC though, It could really be Rockport.

 

[5Stars]

yeah its been a while since Rock was on. i doubt its AC though, It could really be Rockport.

Your mind would change if you read what I read.

Come to think about it, it may have been you!

By the way, I really hope it was not AC posing as Rockport, it was disgusting.