Should have drafted defense instead of Escobar, Randle, T-Will, Street

[Plankton]

Good post.

Best summarized in three words: 'Constantly changing philosophies'.

Or, as Bill Parcells said, Jerry Jones has no football philosophy.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This team never really has long-term plans. They just flop around following trends.

Right? The entire league is going run heavy and then the Cowboys followed suit.

Oh wait...

 

[Sportsbabe]

But you said McCoy should be original. Is Dez being original? McCoy won. He backed it up. He can essentially dance on the star if he wants. His team won. And won convincingly. They won this game in the 1st quarter.

Never mind.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

as Benny Logan for Esc - I do that in a min

Crawford>Logan and Melton > Logan. I didn't hear anyone on this site screaming for Benny Logan during the draft.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Right? The entire league is going run heavy and then the Cowboys followed suit.

Oh wait...

When this team loses I swear people say some of the craziest things. The Cowboys and the Titans were the only ones recently who decided to go run heavy and draft 3 1st round linemen. That wasn't any "trend" they followed.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This thread is about drafting defense instead of Escobar. We could be 12-0 and I would still make the same point in this thread. I don't know how anybody could be happy about drafting a player in a 2nd round that hardly gets to contribute. Especially on a team that lacks talent on defense.

Maybe if we would have drafted defense, we may have a better defense and be 10-2 and not 8-4.

I'm upset about it but I'm not upset at the guy who's playing behind a Hall of Famer. That's like if we drafted T Eddy Bridgewater and being upset that he couldn't take Romo's spot. I think its silly. If you don't think Escobar will be a player than okay. I didn't like the pick at the time and I still wouldn't pick tight end now. But we did and Escobar in his limited playing time has shown flashes.

And if we want to play the "maybe" game MAYBE we draft defense and the guy sucks? I mean its not entirely impossible for us to draft a guy and he ends up not playing well.

I'm frustrated we wasted that pick on a luxury. I'm in agreement there. But you have more trust in this team than I do when it comes to drafting defense especially in that 2nd round.

 

[Zman5]

I'm upset about it but I'm not upset at the guy who's playing behind a Hall of Famer. That's like if we drafted T Eddy Bridgewater and being upset that he couldn't take Romo's spot. I think its silly. If you don't think Escobar will be a player than okay. I didn't like the pick at the time and I still wouldn't pick tight end now. But we did and Escobar in his limited playing time has shown flashes.

And if we want to play the "maybe" game MAYBE we draft defense and the guy sucks? I mean its not entirely impossible for us to draft a guy and he ends up not playing well.

I'm frustrated we wasted that pick on a luxury. I'm in agreement there. But you have more trust in this team than I do when it comes to drafting defense especially in that 2nd round.

My posts has nothing to do with Escobar being good or bad. Escobar could the greatest pass catching TE ever to play. What good is it for us if he can't get on the field because we want to use TEs who can block more than catch?

Team that lacks talent needs to draft players in early rounds that will contribute significantly in their second year.

 

[bodi]

Crawford>Logan and Melton > Logan. I didn't hear anyone on this site screaming for Benny Logan during the draft.

What stud did we pass up for Escobar, Street, Randle, etc.?

The Philadelphia Eagles picked him in the third round of the 2013 NFL Draft. after Eso

Logan is a big body in the middle ay 6 -2 315 has 60 tackles

many does Crawford have 30

they were not even drafted the same year - Logan in 2013

Crawford 2012

 

[mahoneybill]

I don't mind the other picks. I even loved the Williams pick--up until his stand and stare routine last night. Street was a 5 rounder, big deal. Randle too.

But Escobar I will never understand. He could go somewhere and succeed right now, today. But he's our second TE. We knew he would be. Just a terrible choice that high in the draft.

Put Escobar in as a wideout he has to be better than street.

Most disappointing to me is seeing our WR , not named Dez, just stand there on under thrown balls and let the DB fair catch the Interception

 

[ROUSH8692]

All four of these players are JAGS to Average players. They are found on every team in this league. Escobar might have something but he was not worth a 2nd round pick when you have the Tony-Witten bromance going for another 5+ years. Randle is dime a dozen. I've seen several UDFAs out play Street. There are a dozen plus #2 receivers better than T-Will. This team should have been investing in the defense in these spots in the drafts to prevent the situation we are in today. I'm not saying we would hit on all the picks but it would be better than doing nothing. Now we are stuck with almost half a dozen plus holes on the defense and I have to hear from Garrett how the process will not be complete until we have players at every position. It's sickening...

I dont agree that they are jags, per se, but I do agree with your post. I just think that there arent enough balls to go around on offense. Depth is good, but not at the expense of starters on defense, which we dont have.
If you look at Escobar, he is a weapon a la graham, gronkowski, but when have we used him? ONCE... And he scored 2 TDs...
We should have gone defense..

 

[Cowboy06]

Would this team be better if we didn't have any "stars" on the field and we really needed to spread the ball around? I look at what Brady does and I am thinking..."one great line with very good backups on the OL, and a QB that can just pick you apart, and a decent scheme...." But alas, we don't have that...so I tend to agree, spend more time on the defensive side of the ball and keep getting OL to push everyone. I don't want any of the OL to feel safe. In fact I want to see the OL yelled at and told they are nothing until this team goes 19-0. I know...wishful thinking again.

 

[perrykemp]

When this team loses I swear people say some of the craziest things. The Cowboys and the Titans were the only ones recently who decided to go run heavy and draft 3 1st round linemen. That wasn't any "trend" they followed.

The trendsetter was the 49ers who spent 1st round draft picks on Staley (OT), Davis (T), and Iupati (G) between 2007 and 2010.

 

[Cowboy06]

All four of these players are JAGS to Average players. They are found on every team in this league. Escobar might have something but he was not worth a 2nd round pick when you have the Tony-Witten bromance going for another 5+ years. Randle is dime a dozen. I've seen several UDFAs out play Street. There are a dozen plus #2 receivers better than T-Will. This team should have been investing in the defense in these spots in the drafts to prevent the situation we are in today. I'm not saying we would hit on all the picks but it would be better than doing nothing. Now we are stuck with almost half a dozen plus holes on the defense and I have to hear from Garrett how the process will not be complete until we have players at every position. It's sickening...

I will say this, Terrence Williams has a broken finger and that can play havoc with a young receiver that is trying to learn to catch with his hands. I often wonder why don't see explosion routes so that the defense can't just blitz at will. We need to make teams pay quickly for the blitz. If you constantly get 6-10 yards from a quick pass or quick run to an open spot, teams will stop blitzing and then that gets any QB time to sit back and pick you apart. I would also like to see more jumbo sets three TE sets, etc... this would help everyone by controlling the clock, keeping the defense off the field and giving this team some hope and mindset that they can bully the other teams. I think 99% of the problem for this team is from the neck up.

 

[perrykemp]

The trendsetter was the 49ers who spent 1st round draft picks on Staley (OT), Davis (T), and Iupati (G) between 2007 and 2010.

They subsequently built a power rushing offense around that OL.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The trendsetter was the 49ers who spent 1st round draft picks on Staley (OT), Davis (T), and Iupati (G) between 2007 and 2010.

I'm aware of the 9ers as well but that was nearly 8 years ago lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What stud did we pass up for Escobar, Street, Randle, etc.?

The Philadelphia Eagles picked him in the third round of the 2013 NFL Draft. after Eso

Logan is a big body in the middle ay 6 -2 315 has 60 tackles

many does Crawford have 30

they were not even drafted the same year - Logan in 2013

Crawford 2012

My point wasn't about us passing up Crawford for Logan. My point was rueing about missing out on Bennie Logan when we have two DT's who are better. We could use him for depth concerns.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

My posts has nothing to do with Escobar being good or bad. Escobar could the greatest pass catching TE ever to play. What good is it for us if he can't get on the field because we want to use TEs who can block more than catch?

Team that lacks talent needs to draft players in early rounds that will contribute significantly in their second year.

I agree with you there. I didn't like the pick but I also don't like drafting for need either. Drafting for need is how you end up with Morris Claiborne.

 

[perrykemp]

I'm aware of the 9ers as well but that was nearly 8 years ago lol.

Staley was 2007. The other two were in 2010 which coincided with the 49ers resurgence in 2011.

 

[jjktkk]

This team never really has long-term plans. They just flop around following trends.

Yea that Oline Dallas put together, was just one f quick fix ideas.

 

[Nirvana]

The Escobar pick could pay huge dividends down the road. He's shown flashes and we all know it. If Witten ever is out or retired, this guy can really fill in and do a great job. The Randle pick - yeah this guy is nothing that couldn't have been found pretty easilly without using a draft pick. Street? Who knows? TBD.