Should have traded for a running back

[john van brocklin]

No he wasn't.

We probably will never know for sure.
Fair enough?

 

[big dog cowboy]

He should have known that Tyron was on his last leg and went with Torrence in the 2nd.

Solari on draft day told the guys on the draft coverage that they are looking for "athletic" offensive linemen. They also didn't like Torrence.

And yes they know Tyron is on his last leg. Everyone does.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We probably will never know for sure.
Fair enough?

All we know for sure he TEN said they were keeping him.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Seems to be a common thread here that we need Henry to "get that tough yard"

Zeke can still do that, could have signed him for less than Henry, but really, getting that yard is more a function of finding a tiny crease than just bulldozing straight ahead and getting that yard based on pure power. And that comes down to the o-line as much as it does the running back.

Even if the Titans would have traded Henry, not a good move for Dallas....

 

[CowboyoWales]

I think getting Henry for a 2nd round is just "reactive" bargaining. They should have drafted a lineman in the 2nd round rather than schoonmaker. Then they should have used a high draft pick on a running back.

The problem with this team is that their oline play has something to be desired. I think its a scheme issue. The oline should be blowing people off the LOS rather than wait and react approach. It's time we can the zone blocking scheme and go back to what worked for us before.

As for our run game, I blame Jerry for where we are now. He should have known that Tyron was on his last leg and went with Torrence in the 2nd. Drafting Schoonmaker has Jerry's footprint all over it. Blame him for being clueless on how to be a GM in the NFL.

It certainly was a reactive approach, however, after the inability to gain yards on the ground once TP went off against the 9ers you can see that the idea is we can improve the whole running game (TP, RB2/3) with a specialist blocking TE.
With the hope he could become the allround TE was ideal for the TCO.
Most experts are lauding Tyler's Guard attributes.
Has all this worked out (not yet, or as hoped), but scheming and insisting on running TP up the middle is, imo, the main issues. As with Zeke we've got this apparent (Jones) outlook that you've got to get bang for your buck out of your RB1, rather than scheming for the players attributes.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Solari on draft day told the guys on the draft coverage that they are looking for "athletic" offensive linemen. They also didn't like Torrence.

And yes they know Tyron is on his last leg. Everyone does.

Solari is wrong. Just like Marinelli was wrong with Taco. Torrence would have taken this oline to another level and we would could have moved Tyler Smith to tackle. Our oline would have been complete if we have drafted Torrence.

Jerry knows that Tyron is on his last leg for the last few years. But they have done absolutely nothing about it.

 

[ConstantReboot]

It certainly was a reactive approach, however, after the inability to gain yards on the ground once TP went off against the 9ers you can see that the idea is we can improve the whole running game (TP, RB2/3) with a specialist blocking TE.
With the hope he could become the allround TE was ideal for the TCO.
Most experts are lauding Tyler's Guard attributes.
Has all this worked out (not yet, or as hoped), but scheming and insisting on running TP up the middle is, imo, the main issues. As with Zeke we've got this apparent (Jones) outlook that you've got to get bang for your buck out of your RB1, rather than scheming for the players attributes.

Jake Ferguson and Hendershot are capable of blocking. They just need practice. Besides we could have gotten that TE in the later rounds.

It's Jerry once again wanting to stick his nose in a draft when he has no idea on being a pro football GM.

Torrence would have make this oline a beast. Move Tyler Smith to Tackle and we could have moved on from Tyron Smith.

I predicted that oline was going to be an issue this year. Some people here pointed this out as well. Look at where we are now regarding the oline.

 

[ghst187]

Let’s play Lance at RB…not like he will ever be a viable QB and we blew a fourth rounder pick on him already.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Seems to be a common thread here that we need Henry to "get that tough yard"

*screams from the rooftops*

"We dont have an issue with short yardage!"

 

[VaqueroTD]

Seems to be a common thread here that we need Henry to "get that tough yard"

Zeke can still do that, could have signed him for less than Henry, but really, getting that yard is more a function of finding a tiny crease than just bulldozing straight ahead and getting that yard based on pure power. And that comes down to the o-line as much as it does the running back.

Even if the Titans would have traded Henry, not a good move for Dallas....

*screams from the rooftops*

"We dont have an issue with short yardage!"

Red Zone offense and short yardage running are different things. I think most people are referring to red zone problems this year when they say that, but could be wrong.

Biggest reason to get Henry is to unleash Pollard again but with a back who is even scarier. Pollard seems to think he can do it and so does Coach Mac, but I think he still needs to share carries. Not breaking tackles, not breaking long ones, it's obvious he has lost a step.

I've posted a few threads this season on rushing stats to prove these points, and show what type of production we had with Zeke. Keeping Zeke wasn't the answer either. I wonder though why they don't give Rico the ball more often.

Bowling Ball Thunder Henry and Lightning Pollard would have been a nice thing to watch. I jumped on the hype train since the offseason. But it aint' going to happen. So hope Pollard has that breakout game we've been waiting for.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Torrence would have make this oline a beast. Move Tyler Smith to Tackle and we could have moved on from Tyron Smith.

Nah, Torrence isn't the player that Tyler is at Guard and certainly wouldn't get to the second level as Tyler's doing and Torrence would of also have meant additional pressure on Biadasz.
I don't see this pet cat approach to Torrence, and whilst not shouting out the merits of Schoon, I can see what the thinking was behind the pick (especially as their 1st Rd pick was an out and out project).

 

[Denim Chicken]

Red Zone offense and short yardage running are different things. I think most people are referring to red zone problems this year when they say that, but could be wrong.

Biggest reason to get Henry is to unleash Pollard again but with a back who is even scarier. Pollard seems to think he can do it and so does Coach Mac, but I think he still needs to share carries. Not breaking tackles, not breaking long ones, it's obvious he has lost a step.

I've posted a few threads this season on rushing stats to prove these points, and show what type of production we had with Zeke. Keeping Zeke wasn't the answer either. I wonder though why they don't give Rico the ball more often.

Bowling Ball Thunder Henry and Lightning Pollard would have been a nice thing to watch. I jumped on the hype train since the offseason. But it aint' going to happen. So hope Pollard has that breakout game we've been waiting for.

Another back is not going to help Pollard. If he has any issue, it's from his injury. Though, I believe our run blocking and playcalling in the run game is the primary reason. You see he had more success last game when they were running him outside a bit more.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Another back is not going to help Pollard. If he has any issue, it's from his injury. Though, I believe our run blocking and playcalling in the run game is the primary reason. You see he had more success last game when they were running him outside a bit more.

Yeah, it will. Would have been nice for that other guy to be a HOFer who still has something left, but I'll take Rico too. Anything to get the playmaker back.

Both him and Big Mac bull-headed and will keep pounding him saying nothing wrong, even though his broken tackles, production and everything is way off.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Nah, Torrence isn't the player that Tyler is at Guard and certainly wouldn't get to the second level as Tyler's doing and Torrence would of also have meant additional pressure on Biadasz.
I don't see this pet cat approach to Torrence, and whilst not shouting out the merits of Schoon, I can see what the thinking was behind the pick (especially as their 1st Rd pick was an out and out project).

Then they can put Torrence as tackle. His frame is built for it and could have been a reliable backup for Tyron and possibly a future replacement.

I still cannot see the reasoning on using a 2nd rounder on a blocking TE. It's nothing more than a reach and screams of Jerry wanting a TE because he couldn't get one in the first round.

Torrence may not have pan out in the future as what we wanted. Maybe he will. But it sure would have fixed some of the issues we are having right now with our oline.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

*screams from the rooftops*

"We dont have an issue with short yardage!"

This is just more supportive evidence that the Zeke Boyz are just uninformed fanbois.

 

[DuncanIso]

Red Zone offense and short yardage running are different things. I think most people are referring to red zone problems this year when they say that, but could be wrong.

Biggest reason to get Henry is to unleash Pollard again but with a back who is even scarier. Pollard seems to think he can do it and so does Coach Mac, but I think he still needs to share carries. Not breaking tackles, not breaking long ones, it's obvious he has lost a step.

I've posted a few threads this season on rushing stats to prove these points, and show what type of production we had with Zeke. Keeping Zeke wasn't the answer either. I wonder though why they don't give Rico the ball more often.

Bowling Ball Thunder Henry and Lightning Pollard would have been a nice thing to watch. I jumped on the hype train since the offseason. But it aint' going to happen. So hope Pollard has that breakout game we've been waiting for.

Dallas doesn’t have the free cap space to trade for Henry.

Tony is likely playing his last season with us. That speed is gone. He’s no longer a threat in the C gap.

We miss Zeke because he scored a lot and he knows how to get tough yards. Even though he is near the end of an outstanding career.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

Henry would've been great, but was never on the market. I didn't hear of any other RB on the market that would've been a big upgrade over what we have. Sometimes you can only do what you can and forget about what you can't.

The media threw clickbait out there... And some people ate the cheese... LOL

 

[VaqueroTD]

The media threw clickbait out there... And some people ate the cheese... LOL

Yes and No.

No. Been out there the Titans would like to trade him since the off-season. A few options been published. Google it.

Yes. Recent stuff is probably just for the clicks or ratings, but they’re not coming out of nowhere. He was legitimately available until Titans realized they had a shot with all this parity, and no one was willing to give up a high pick for a RB in his 30’s.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Solari is wrong. Just like Marinelli was wrong with Taco. Torrence would have taken this oline to another level and we would could have moved Tyler Smith to tackle. Our oline would have been complete if we have drafted Torrence.

Cowboys had him flagged so it really doesn't matter.

 

[conner01]

Mark my words it's going to come back and bite us that is if we want to go any further than just making the playoffs.
I'll say it now Jerry should have pushed his chips in the middle of the table and got Derrick Henry.
The teams that can get a yard when they need it and run the ball to close games out are going to be the ones that go deep into the playoffs.
If Pollard makes it to the end of the season I will be astonished.

Jerry went cheap again and we will be sitting home watching our horrible division rivals the eagles be able to push their way and bully their way into the NFC championship game.


Thoughts!!!!

Pollard isn’t cheap so there’s that.