SI: "His absence could wound this club more deeply than it realizes."

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I like MURRAY but this was the first season he was healthy. I don't liek it or trust it. If it was a fair deal for us Id welcome him back but if it's over 7.5 a year. I and just like others won't be happy.
 

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I like MURRAY but this was the first season he was healthy. I don't liek it or trust it. If it was a fair deal for us Id welcome him back but if it's over 7.5 a year. I and just like others won't be happy.

We all like him. It is just that the fans here seem to think of him as a one-year wonder. Like anybody else could step in and do what he did last year.

And no he wasn't totally healthy last year. As the story state, he broke a bone in his hand and returned the next week.
If we let him go we will roux the day.
 

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We all like him. It is just that the fans here seem to think of him as a one-year wonder. Like anybody else could step in and do what he did last year.

And no he wasn't totally healthy last year. As the story state, he broke a bone in his hand and returned the next week.
If we let him go we will roux the day.

He also has over 4400 rushing yds for his 4 seasons. That is a lot of yards for someone who never plays.
 

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I like MURRAY but this was the first season he was healthy. I don't liek it or trust it. If it was a fair deal for us Id welcome him back but if it's over 7.5 a year. I and just like others won't be happy.

no coincidence that it was also the first year he ran behind a big, solid Oline. I don't think Murray is a one-hit wonder. I think he's a good RB, but I don't think he's worth $7m-$7.5m BECAUSE of that Oline. I think another decent-to-good RB may not break off 100+yds/game for 10games or whatever, but there's guys that can contribute significantly enough to the offense at a lower price.
 

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I understand the line of thought that says he is a key piece of the puzzle and wanted back by the team. I get that but honestly, I don't really buy into it here. As I see it, all of these guys are Pros and regardless of who gets signed and who does not, you had better not be worried about who gets signed, or not, because next season, you are getting paid on how well YOU play. Don't worry about the other guy, you worry about how you are handling your own business.

The other thing I believe is that our investment in the OL is not worth much if we are drafting 3 guys in the 1st round and that talent only works if you have one certain guy carrying the rock. The idea that the Cowboys make the investment in the OL is to provide the team with the ability to be less reliant on skilled position players. I think this is pretty key in this evaluation. We better be able to run the ball with backs other then just Murray.
 

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no coincidence that it was also the first year he ran behind a big, solid Oline. I don't think Murray is a one-hit wonder. I think he's a good RB, but I don't think he's worth $7m-$7.5m BECAUSE of that Oline. I think another decent-to-good RB may not break off 100+yds/game for 10games or whatever, but there's guys that can contribute significantly enough to the offense at a lower price.

^THIS^

Now we just need to sufficiently replace him at a fraction of the cost.
 

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I like MURRAY but this was the first season he was healthy. I don't liek it or trust it. If it was a fair deal for us Id welcome him back but if it's over 7.5 a year. I and just like others won't be happy.

Emotional fans/media will never really understand building a team relative to the salary cap. The Patriots have been letting players move in for many years but people still don't understand the process.

There are many risks and building a successful team is about managing the risks. Overspending on a RBs is not a good risk/reward in the modern NFL.
 

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We all like him. It is just that the fans here seem to think of him as a one-year wonder. Like anybody else could step in and do what he did last year.

And no he wasn't totally healthy last year. As the story state, he broke a bone in his hand and returned the next week.
If we let him go we will roux the day.

I'm not discounting him, but the fact is that 1,023 of Murray's yards came before he was ever touched.

If that doesn't say offensive line, I don't know what does.
 

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I'm not discounting him, but the fact is that 1,023 of Murray's yards came before he was ever touched.

If that doesn't say offensive line, I don't know what does.

On this forum you will find murray lovers murray haters and then realists. You my friend are a realist lol
 

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Emotional fans/media will never really understand building a team relative to the salary cap. The Patriots have been letting players move in for many years but people still don't understand the process.

There are many risks and building a successful team is about managing the risks. Overspending on a RBs is not a good risk/reward in the modern NFL.

It's not emotions, it's common sense. Why create a hole just because you can? The risk of being wrong on replacing Murray with just anyone is missing the playoffs. If he isn't quite as good it's just money, money that they don't want to spend on anyone else anyways.

The Pats have one the best QBs of all time that takes hometown deals and they have one the best minds in football leading them. Trying to copy them will lead you down a rabbit hole.
 

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It's not emotions, it's common sense. Why create a hole just because you can? The risk of being wrong on replacing Murray with just anyone is missing the playoffs. If he isn't quite as good it's just money, money that they don't want to spend on anyone else anyways.

The Pats have one the best QBs of all time that takes hometown deals and they have one the best minds in football leading them. Trying to copy them will lead you down a rabbit hole.

There are significant risks to keeping Murray also.
1. Murray has only played 16 games once and that was in 2014.
2. Murray was over used in 2014. The history of RBs with that many touches in not good in following years.
3. If it prevents them from getting the pass rusher they need then it's a big risk that they can find one. The probability of William/Randle and a draft pick producing is much higher than the probability of a rookie pass rusher producing. Depending on the rookie pass rusher represents a risk.
 

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I'm not discounting him, but the fact is that 1,023 of Murray's yards came before he was ever touched.

If that doesn't say offensive line, I don't know what does.

I get you win now. I'm right there with you. I just don't see our offense as broken. I don't think AP is going to come any cheaper than Murray either.
Why not concentrate on what is broke? Our defense.
 
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It's not emotions, it's common sense. Why create a hole just because you can? The risk of being wrong on replacing Murray with just anyone is missing the playoffs. If he isn't quite as good it's just money, money that they don't want to spend on anyone else anyways.

The Pats have one the best QBs of all time that takes hometown deals and they have one the best minds in football leading them. Trying to copy them will lead you down a rabbit hole.

keeping him goes against great odds that he will ever produce close to that again. Like 9-1. Good bye and thank you, Murray.
 

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I still take issue with all his fumbles. If you've watched enough Cowboys games this past year, you have to wonder how he didn't fumble more times than he actually did. I still stand at 50% of me says let him walk with a big contract and a ton of wear and tear this past year somewhere else, and 50% of me want's him to stay.
 

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He also had 5 fumbles and we lost all 5.

One that cost us a spot in the NFCC.
 

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I'm not discounting him, but the fact is that 1,023 of Murray's yards came before he was ever touched.

If that doesn't say offensive line, I don't know what does.

He also led the league in yards after contact, so what does that say?
 
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