SIGN VETS: Toniu Fonoti, Charles Spencer, Ashley Lelie, Dan Morgan ...

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Ok, lets start over. I wasn't being patronizing. If I sounded like I was I am sorry.

I was being light hearted about it, that's all.

Fair enough.

You said to sign Morgan and put him on IR, so how are we losing any players?

Uh, when he comes off IR he would have to take another player's roster spot.

And their situations are vastly different. Colombo just need to strengthen his lower body because he could not work out for a year due to the knee injury.

Columbo was drafted with the Bears first pick in 2002 (14th overall I believe) and was injured for THREE years. Bears wrote him off as a bust. Dallas took a low risk, low expectation chance on Columbo when they signed him 2005. Parcells decided to have him take a year off to concentrate on rehab. Columbo came back to start 16 games for the Cowboys at RT in 2006.

How are the situations so different??? Morgan needs a year of rehab IMO.

Morgan is a walking talking medical report. He has never played a 16 game season because he's always hurt. He has played 4 games over the last two seasons and has opted to retire.

Sounds like Columbo to a "T". Columbo played about as many games in THREE seasons.

You really want him over Carpenter and Burnett?

Abso-frikkin-lutely! Neither Burnett or Carpenter are the caliber of player that Morgan is. Burnett is a FA next season plus he is also injury prone. Carpenter is nowhere near as good as Morgan, concussions & various injuries included.

I can see where I would have taken him when he came out of Miami over them, but now he's just a shell of that player who's career is over.

But taking a flyer on him now is the beauty of it. Of course any team would have taken him coming out of Miami, he was a true beast. But Dallas is one of the very few teams who can take a chance on him b/c they don't need him to contribute right away. Jerry has taken these kind of chances before on players who were supposed to be too injured to keep playing_Quentin Coryatt didn't pan out, but Marc Columbo did.

 

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Fair enough.



Uh, when he comes off IR he would have to take another player's roster spot.



Columbo was drafted with the Bears first pick in 2002 (14th overall I believe) and was injured for THREE years. Bears wrote him off as a bust. Dallas took a low risk, low expectation chance on Columbo when they signed him 2005. Parcells decided to have him take a year off to concentrate on rehab. Columbo came back to start 16 games for the Cowboys at RT in 2006.

How are the situations so different??? Morgan needs a year of rehab IMO.




Sounds like Columbo to a "T". Columbo played about as many games in THREE seasons.



Abso-frikkin-lutely! Neither Burnett or Carpenter are the caliber of player that Morgan is. Burnett is a FA next season plus he is also injury prone. Carpenter is nowhere near as good as Morgan, concussions & various injuries included.



But taking a flyer on him now is the beauty of it. Of course any team would have taken him coming out of Miami, he was a true beast. But Dallas is one of the very few teams who can take a chance on him b/c they don't need him to contribute right away. Jerry has taken these kind of chances before on players who were supposed to be too injured to keep playing_Quentin Coryatt didn't pan out, but Marc Columbo did.

A few things.

1. Colombo had one injury, not two hundred and thirty of them.

2. Colombo was down one year(2003) for the injury and rehab. He played in 2004 and he wasn't the same because the Bears never rehabbed him properly. He was just about back to normal in 2005 where he played as a backup for the Cowboys. In 2006 he proved he was capable of being a starter.

3. Colombo was 24 when he got hurt, not 30 which is how old Morgan is now.

4. Read this and tell me you think the Cowboys are interested in Dan 'I could not come back from the achilles injury' Morgan.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=yasinskas_pat&id=3404496

And yes, we get it...

Dan Morgan is your favorite player of all time, lol.

 

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I liked the idea of Polk.

IMO he's better than Justin Rogers, as a backup LB (again, knows Wade's scheme) and on ST. Can see hiim take leadership of that unit, great work ethic too.

I would have liked the idea of Fonoti when he first left San Diego.

Fonoti was unavailable then, he was traded to Minnesota (drafted in 2002, traded in 2005). He would have made the roster, if not started (Vikes were very high on him) if he didn't get injured. Last season he was cut from Miami & now cut from the Panthers. Still think he is a cheap look for the Cowboys.

Spencer, if he wants to be a backup Guard then yeah sign him to the vet minimum after we beat Cleveland.

Now there's a plan. But instead of having him compete for a backup spot this season, have him fully rehab his injury so he can compete, maybe even for a starting position, NEXT SEASON, ala Columbo in 2005.

Cowboys have 4 OL (Proctor, Marten, Berger, McQuistan) that appear to be incompatible w/Houck's scheme. The starting center, Gurode, is bigger (320 lbs) than all of them. Cowboys need to bring in players that can contribute in the current scheme. If not this season, then next.

Simms, I can't see why he want him and I can't see why he wants to come here and be the 3rd QB. Lelie, why sign him and try to 'fix' his career when he have three young WR's already on the team (Hurd, Austin, Stanback) who don't need fixing?

Brad Johnson is the short term backup QB (maybe only one more season), Cowboys and Simms have reciprocated interest. As for Lelie, why not? Jerry has never been shy about taking chances, showing he can "fix" "broken" players w/talent. Lelie is more proven and more productive than either of the 3 injured players you list. I fully expect the contract to be incentive laced, cut him after 3 games if need be. Roll the dice, what is the harm? The reward is greater than keeping either Jefferson or Amendola on the active roster.

Don't take it so personal that people aren't going gaga over your opinions bro. We are all Cowboys fans.

I did not come to this board for the "yes" man responses, I get enough of that elsewhere. I came on this board for the exchange of ideas & good discourse. Hostile attacks w/incorrect info as their basis irks me, just as it would anyone.

And yes, I think the idea of Andy Studebaker getting a look see was a good one. I even threw up some vids for people to check out.

Hey, its a start.:laugh2: