Signing a veteran corner

[TheSport78]

no the worse case would be Dallas having to play Scandrick and Jenkins as #1 and #2 and then who will play the slot.
Now thats a nightmare.
I would go hard after Carr a proven 3-4 starting CB.
Why do you think Dallas will not go after a big name CB just because of Jenkins in his last year.
Be more of a reason. Jenkins can't stay healthy so I doubt they resign him yet. I would take Carr over Jenkins.

Your rookie CB in the 1st or 2nd round will be the 3rd corner, not the slot CB. Scandrick will still slide inside, that's why they re-signed him. He's a pretty good slot CB, but the rookie will kick outside in multiple WR sets.

Okay, let's say you sign Carr to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal, and then Jenkins has a Pro Bowl year in 2012. You're going to let him walk? Heck no. Now you have to sign Jenkins to a long term deal.

Develop your CB's through the draft because they're too expensive in free agency.

 

[Muhast]

Grimes and Carr are the two best CB's. Grimes is 29 though, so I'd look for Carr first.

I wouldn't mind Finnegan's attitude on our defense, but he is most likely going to want more than he is worth.

 

[Alexander]

why, please tell me why,

Has anyone seen this guy play.
I live in Nashville and the Titan fans are wanting him to walk away.
They guy is a zone CB who rarely plays in man cover.
When he does line up vs bigger WRs and play in man he gets owned.

The word on the local radio here in NAshville is that Finnegan thinks he is a top 10 CB in the NFL and wants to get paid like it.
I don't even think he is a top 32 CB.

He is a bit overrated due to his reputation, but he is far better than most that will be available.

I am struggling with the Carlos Rogers lovefest that has erupted just this season. When he was with the Commanders, he was viewed about the same as you state Finnegan is viewed by the Titan locals. He has played well in San Francisco, but that entire defense has been a well-oiled machine. I would stay far far away from him. Besides, I would bet Finnegan ends up going to the Rams that need a CB badly.

 

[4lifecowboy]

It seems the top of the corner class for this offseason is going to command too much money and strap us down to long term deals. Like Finnegan, Porter, Grimes, Carr and probably even Carlos Rogers. What does everyone think of signing a solid veteran to short term deal who can still play? These are all guys who we can get at a discount due to injury or age:

Marcus Trufant
Rashean Mathis
Terrell Thomas
Bryant McFadden
Jason AllenWill Allen
Aaron Ross

Realistic choice for price range IMO

 

[supercowboy8]

He is a bit overrated due to his reputation, but he is far better than most that will be available.

I am struggling with the Carlos Rogers lovefest that has erupted just this season. When he was with the Commanders, he was viewed about the same as you state Finnegan is viewed by the Titan locals. He has played well in San Francisco, but that entire defense has been a well-oiled machine. I would stay far far away from him. Besides, I would bet Finnegan ends up going to the Rams that need a CB badly.

why do you bring up Rogers with my quote I never mentioned Rogers, I want Brandon Carr.

 

[supercowboy8]

Your rookie CB in the 1st or 2nd round will be the 3rd corner, not the slot CB. Scandrick will still slide inside, that's why they re-signed him. He's a pretty good slot CB, but the rookie will kick outside in multiple WR sets.

Okay, let's say you sign Carr to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal, and then Jenkins has a Pro Bowl year in 2012. You're going to let him walk? Heck no. Now you have to sign Jenkins to a long term deal.

Develop your CB's through the draft because they're too expensive in free agency.

ok, so sign him, where is it a bad thing to have two good CBs.
then if you draft a CB and he turns out pretty good and you have Scanrdrick, how is that a bad thing to have 4 good CBs.
I don't see the down side.
Also I don't think Carr will warrent that kind of cash.
I wouldn't pay him that much and wouldn't sign Carr to that much.
Carr is worth about 6-7 a year.

 

[Bowdown27]

I really want Kirkpatrick. Young tough likes man to man and hit. We don't need to bring in a guy who's over 27 and could End up like tnew in a couple years

 

[cowboy_ron]

Sign one of these and draft one.

I agree

 

[Alexander]

why do you bring up Rogers with my quote I never mentioned Rogers, I want Brandon Carr.

More of a general observation than a crack on your post. I just see a lot of wishlists with Rogers on the "A" ones.

Carr is on a lot of them too, but at least he is younger, more consistent and likely to get better bang for the buck.

 

[Alexander]

Realistic choice for price range IMO

Jason Allen is a backup CB at this stage. I would not rely on him to be a starter, which is what we need. You get what you pay for.

 

[jterrell]

The Cowboys need to identify this year's version of Jonathon Joseph and go get him. You do not play around at CB. Not when teams are passing for 400 yards a week.

I think that guy is Brandon Carr. Plays for a small market team but has very solid production.

We do not have the young CBs to rely on long term to try and find a stop gap. We need a 4 year answer. After that you can draft BPA without feeling handcuffed by need.

 

[jterrell]

Your rookie CB in the 1st or 2nd round will be the 3rd corner, not the slot CB. Scandrick will still slide inside, that's why they re-signed him. He's a pretty good slot CB, but the rookie will kick outside in multiple WR sets.

Okay, let's say you sign Carr to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal, and then Jenkins has a Pro Bowl year in 2012. You're going to let him walk? Heck no. Now you have to sign Jenkins to a long term deal.

Develop your CB's through the draft because they're too expensive in free agency.

ROFL. So now we are worried about having too many good CBs???

We have Jenkins rights for a while and can always use a transition tag to hold right of first refusal if we need to. Right now we need to just stop somebody. If Jenkins makes a Pro Bowl we'll be too busy celebrating a playoff run this time next year to care what kind of salary he wants.

You don't know that a Cb falls your way in the draft and can't assume one will. Also we tried plenty of 2nd Round CBs that bombed. A quality FA CB becomes a starter and allows Scandrick to keep his job that he excels at. It also means you have a him in case one of the starters gets nicked. I'd still be fine drafting a Cb if that fell to us. You can not have too many quality CBs.

 

[TheSport78]

ROFL. So now we are worried about having too many good CBs???

We have Jenkins rights for a while and can always use a transition tag to hold right of first refusal if we need to. Right now we need to just stop somebody. If Jenkins makes a Pro Bowl we'll be too busy celebrating a playoff run this time next year to care what kind of salary he wants.

You don't know that a Cb falls your way in the draft and can't assume one will. Also we tried plenty of 2nd Round CBs that bombed. A quality FA CB becomes a starter and allows Scandrick to keep his job that he excels at. It also means you have a him in case one of the starters gets nicked. I'd still be fine drafting a Cb if that fell to us. You can not have too many quality CBs.

Yeah, let's tie up around 80 million dollars between a free agent cb and Jenkins. That's not good business. We won't be able to do jack squat with the cap if you tie too much money into one position. We're about to do it at WR and we can't do it at cb.

 

[supercowboy8]

Yeah, let's tie up around 80 million dollars between a free agent cb and Jenkins. That's not good business. We won't be able to do jack squat with the cap if you tie too much money into one position. We're about to do it at WR and we can't do it at cb.

80 million for Carr and Jenkins, no way, Jenkins will not get 40-50 millino and if he does then he can walk. You have to stay healthy to get a contract worth that much.

 

[TheSport78]

80 million for Carr and Jenkins, no way, Jenkins will not get 40-50 millino and if he does then he can walk. You have to stay healthy to get a contract worth that much.

Corners...cost...mucho...dinero

 

[supercowboy8]

Corners...cost...mucho...dinero

yes but who says you have to pay them mucho dinero

8 mill a year your looking at top 10 CBs. Carr and Jenkins are not top 10 CBs.

If I had to pick between Carr and Jenkins, then I pick the bigger and healthier CB and thats Carr.

 

[TheSport78]

yes but who says you have to pay them mucho dinero

8 mill a year your looking at top 10 CBs. Carr and Jenkins are not top 10 CBs.

If I had to pick between Carr and Jenkins, then I pick the bigger and healthier CB and thats Carr.

The market value is HIGH for CB's. Heck, SCANDRICK got $25 million, and he's considered a below average to average CB. Jenkins will command big money, bank on it.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

That's right. Go after Finnegan. There seems to be no effort as yet by the Titans to negotiate a new contract, so they may be willing to let him test the FA market. I see our budget as $6 million- that is the savings from Newman's release.

Finnegan is a feisty CB who has an in your face attitude, a physical style and can back it up with his play. Just what we need, a little corner, who plays big, and has an attitude to match. As a CB, the guy is a very active player and a tackling machine in run support.

He is 27 now, so I would like to see a 3-5 year contract that is CAP friendly in the last season or two, just in case. If we can't get a contract with Finnegan for that CAP number, only then do I look at the second tier.

Finnegan is done with the Titans, he was quoted here in Nashville as saying that he wint be back next season. I like the guy, he brings intensity.

 

[RastaRocket]

That's why they play the games...

Best case: Thomas returns to form and makes a huge impact on D

Worst case: He re-injures himself as the 3rd or 4th corner and the 1 year deal failed.

It's worth the risk. We won't sign a big name CB free agent, especially with Jenkins' contract up next year. We'll get a cheap FA CB like Thomas and a high draft pick.

If we get Brandon Carr, Jenkins can take a hike lol.

 

[supercowboy8]

The market value is HIGH for CB's. Heck, SCANDRICK got $25 million, and he's considered a below average to average CB. Jenkins will command big money, bank on it.

Then let him walk, if he is injured as many times next year as he was this year, he doesn't deserve it. Give me Carr and a draft pick early this year for my future.