Since 2020 the Cowboys are 1-4 against the Eagles

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when someone other than Dak Prescott starts at QB. Their only win came in the Covid year.
The offense has averaged 15.2 points per game in that span.

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in games Prescott has started.
The offense has averaged 37.6 points per game in that span.

I shall say no more. If one does not get it by now then one never shall.
I pray Dak is healthy when the Cowboys play Philly next year.
 

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when someone other than Dak Prescott starts at QB. Their only win came in the Covid year.
The offense has averaged 15.2 points per game in that span.

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in games Prescott has started.
The offense has averaged 37.6 points per game in that span.

I shall say no more. If one does not get it by now then one never shall.
Cooper Rush is 0-3... That's your problem right there.
 

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Cooper Rush is 0-3... That's your problem right there.
Yeah my main point was to those who claim "Dak makes no difference." A .750 winning percentage and 22 more points per game says otherwise. Like I said those who see it see it. Those who don't, don't want to. None of this is to declare Dak to be anything but what he is. A very good QB who can play great at times and play like crap at times. But generally when surrounded by a good team he has given good results more often than not. He's never going to be Mahomes or even Burrow or Allen or Herbert.. but he's better than Eli Manning, Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer. He just hasn't had that one hot playoff run to solidify himself in the minds of many. Which is absolutely fair. In order for him to elevate himself beyond Tony Romo/Kirk Cousins "good stats but not good enough when it matters most" territory he needs a big time playoff run. I don't think this is news to anybody, including Dak Prescott.

The other overarching point I was making is that it would certainly behoove the Cowboys to keep Dak healthy. Not just because he will be costing a fortune the next 4 years but also because he is far and away this team's best chance at doing anything significant. Regular season or playoffs. So the Cowboys need to continue to invest in offensive line talent. They kinda screwed themselves doing with two rookies this year. We knew there would be growing pains but I don't think any of us saw Guyton struggling as much as he has or Zack fighting injuries to the extent he did. We can't have that next year. Zack either needs to get completely healthy or retire and Guyton needs to figure it out. Period.
 

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I pray Dak is healthy when the Cowboys play Philly next year.
Yeah we've seen a losing record both times Dak has failed to finish the season. The only losing records in the last decade. Basically healthy Dak = winning record. I don't know about other people but I prefer winning record to losing record. Cause as much as we decry the lack of playoff success, the Cowboys have never made the playoffs with a losing record. And frankly I enjoy playoff football a lot more when my team is involved. Though I am depressed for at least 2 weeks when they are eliminated. And it's a month minimum if they lose the Super Bowl.
 

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Us losing twice to the Eagles this year isn't because Dak wasn't the QB, Dak is losing both those games regardless because this entire team just stinks and the Eagles are legit unfraudulently good for perhaps the first time since their SB season
They weren't good 2 years ago when they went to the SB?
 

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- Rush is a low end back up QB. Dak is the highest paid QB in the NFL. The fact that we can even have these conversations is a problem.
- Its cherry picked. The Cowboys are 0-4 when they play the 9er's with Dak as the QB since 2020. They are 0-2 against the Packers and 0-1 versus the Chiefs and Bills. It would be impossible for any QB to be worse. Overall, the metrics for Dak against good teams are not good which is one of the primary criticisms against him. That extends to Rush too apparently.
 

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- Rush is a low end back up QB. Dak is the highest paid QB in the NFL. The fact that we can even have these conversations is a problem.
- Its cherry picked. The Cowboys are 0-4 when they play the 9er's with Dak as the QB since 2020. They are 0-2 against the Packers and 0-1 versus the Chiefs and Bills. It would be impossible for any QB to be worse. Overall, the metrics for Dak against good teams are not good which is one of the primary criticisms against him. That extends to Rush too apparently.
LOL! Sample size dude. I'm talking about a team we play twice a year every year come hell or high water. Teams like the Bills, Chiefs and even the Packers simply don't hit the same because of the infrequency of play. The offense scored 28 and 32? points in the two losses to the Packers. Maybe the other side of the ball should shoulder some blame for those? And how come you refuse to acknowledge that the Cowboys beat the Eagles who were on their way to the Super Bowl in 2022 with Dak? Or the fact that were it not for some VERY questionable officiating in the game at Philly would have swept them in 2023. It all starts with the division and fans out from there. The 49ers have been the overall best team in the NFC the last 5 years. They are simply a bad matchup for this version of the Cowboys because they are extremely physical and the Cowboys are not. The good news is the Cowboys are trending towards being a more physical team but that is still a work in progress as we have seen. Hopefully once the rooks get a full offseason in the weight room and Zack either retires or is replaced by Hoffman or Bass the Cowboys can get back to being bullies up front. Frankly until they do that on both sides of the ball they're not beating any of the upper echelon teams with any regularity, no matter who we have at QB.

Oh and one last thing.. Rush is not a "low end backup." He's a "serviceable backup." There are WAY worse backups in the NFL. Ask the Giants or the Browns or the Raiders or the Jags.
 

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The desperation to salute mediocrity knows no bounds.
Just like the chance to jump on a good, positive fan. Fans like you, burnt out and putting way to much importance into a game are really sad.
 

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LOL! Sample size dude. I'm talking about a team we play twice a year every year come hell or high water. Teams like the Bills, Chiefs and even the Packers simply don't hit the same because of the infrequency of play. The offense scored 28 and 32? points in the two losses to the Packers. Maybe the other side of the ball should shoulder some blame for those? And how come you refuse to acknowledge that the Cowboys beat the Eagles who were on their way to the Super Bowl in 2022 with Dak? Or the fact that were it not for some VERY questionable officiating in the game at Philly would have swept them in 2023. It all starts with the division and fans out from there. The 49ers have been the overall best team in the NFC the last 5 years. They are simply a bad matchup for this version of the Cowboys because they are extremely physical and the Cowboys are not. The good news is the Cowboys are trending towards being a more physical team but that is still a work in progress as we have seen. Hopefully once the rooks get a full offseason in the weight room and Zack either retires or is replaced by Hoffman or Bass the Cowboys can get back to being bullies up front. Frankly until they do that on both sides of the ball they're not beating any of the upper echelon teams with any regularity, no matter who we have at QB.

Oh and one last thing.. Rush is not a "low end backup." He's a "serviceable backup." There are WAY worse backups in the NFL. Ask the Giants or the Browns or the Raiders or the Jags.
You are basically picking out the one team that has been good for the past few years that Dak hasn't played poorly against. You are cherry picking. Go ahead and post Dak's record against winning teams or in the playoffs and compare it to Rush. When you don't cherry pick, it doesn't look very good.

Regardless, if you want to go into individual games:
- The team was getting smoked by the likes of New Orleans this year with Dak at the helm. You are functionally giving Dak credit for getting hurt before Philly could hang two losses on him this year.
- The 2022 win was after Philly had the division wrapped up and Minshew was the QB.
- In 2021, one of the Dak wins was the end of the season when Philly was eliminated and again, Minshew was QB

This isn't the stellar record you seem to think it is.
 

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With Philly established and Washington improving by finally having a legit QB. If the Joneses continue to sit on their hands during the off-season, the only battle the Cowboys will be having is with the Giants for the basement in the NFC East.
 

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when someone other than Dak Prescott starts at QB. Their only win came in the Covid year.
The offense has averaged 15.2 points per game in that span.

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in games Prescott has started.
The offense has averaged 37.6 points per game in that span.

I shall say no more. If one does not get it by now then one never shall.
Aren't you forgetting to adjust Dak's wins bases on who THEIR qb was? For instance, either last year or the year before, a Dak led team beat the Eagles, but their starting QB was out.

If ur going to qualify our losses, you need to qualify our wins too.
 

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"Since 2020 the Cowboys are 1-4 against the Eagles"​


This is simply not true.
He says "1-4 against the eagles when someone other than Dak plays". It is true. Dalton 1-0, Dinucci 0-1 and Rush 0-3.

Of course, based on his logic of cherry picking, we should get Dalton back because he is undefeated against the Eagles as a Cowboys QB.
 
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