Since 2020 the Cowboys are 1-4 against the Eagles

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2 of the 4 losses came this year, with Fangio and Moore as their coordinators.

1 of them came with DeNucci at Qb and McCarthy have Moore snap the ball with DeNucci lined up as WR and Zeke taking the snap.

2 of the wins with Dak came in meaningless games, against 3rd stringers with nothing on the line to end the season and against one of the worst pass defenses in the league.

And Hurts has already been to the SB, way farther than Dak has
 

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I'm sad for you..trying to relive the glory days...:thumbdown:
And I am said for you thinking people arent capabĺe of independent thought and for some reason known only to you, need you to do it for them. If you dont like the tone of the board, ask reality to build the sand box zone for you and a couple others.
 
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Another thread by a Dak over Dallas fan
They don't start threads because they love Dak...they start them because they are tired of the constant crap and venom that spews out out of the Dak haters...if they would move on, all these other threads would be gone. Dak hasn't played in 3 months and he still consumes the feeble minded. Hopefully the egg not and fireworks will flush out their systems. Get the air fresheners ready!
 

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They don't start threads because they love Dak...they start them because they are tired of the constant crap and venom that spews out out of the Dak haters...if they would move on, all these other threads would be gone. Dak hasn't played in 3 months and he still consumes the feeble minded. Hopefully the egg not and fireworks will flush out their systems. Get the air fresheners ready!
Dak is the highest paid player on the team and league and unfortunately a big part of this team’s future.

To think he wouldnt be discussed at all, especially considering his play before the injury, is funny as hell
 

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Dak is the highest paid player on the team and league and unfortunately a big part of this team’s future.

To think he wouldnt be discussed at all, especially considering his play before the injury, is funny as hell
What's funny is ALL your talk won't change a damn thing. That's hilarious!
:lmao: :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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when someone other than Dak Prescott starts at QB. Their only win came in the Covid year.
The offense has averaged 15.2 points per game in that span.

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in games Prescott has started.
The offense has averaged 37.6 points per game in that span.

I shall say no more. If one does not get it by now then one never shall.
And those who are more either "Dak fans" OR "Dak haters" than "Cowboy fans" continue to show their true colors and obsession in just about every thread on here. I hope you all go away or maybe start a Dak forum
 

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What's funny is ALL your talk won't change a damn thing. That's hilarious!
:lmao: :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
You are on quite a roll the last few days. The hypocrisy has been over the top.

I can't help but respond to this one, though. You've been at your own personal war with the haters for years. It is pretty much all you post about (odd for a guy with such a background in football, hmmmm) it seems to consume you. Constant venom, crap, and hate directed at other posters.

Has your war changed anything? Is it equally as hilarious that ALL your talk has not changed a damn thing? Is your constant spewing of venom, crap and hate not equally as tiring as the same directed at a part of the team? (you know, the purpose of this forum's existence)

Oh, One more question. Are you "feeble minded" for being consumed with the "haters"?
 

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You are basically picking out the one team that has been good for the past few years that Dak hasn't played poorly against. You are cherry picking. Go ahead and post Dak's record against winning teams or in the playoffs and compare it to Rush. When you don't cherry pick, it doesn't look very good.

Regardless, if you want to go into individual games:
- The team was getting smoked by the likes of New Orleans this year with Dak at the helm. You are functionally giving Dak credit for getting hurt before Philly could hang two losses on him this year.
- The 2022 win was after Philly had the division wrapped up and Minshew was the QB.
- In 2021, one of the Dak wins was the end of the season when Philly was eliminated and again, Minshew was QB

This isn't the stellar record you seem to think it is.

I picked out the Eagles because over the past decade or so they have been the #1 obstacle to the Cowboys winning the division and they show the starkest contrast in how the team has performed WITH and WITHOUT Dak Prescott. Simply put they go from being dominated without him and absolutely crushing the Eagles with him. I am not giving credit to Dak for anything except helping the team beat a team it absolutely has to beat to win the division 80% of the time. At no point have I declared Dak to be undefeated against anybody, though the Cowboys have not lost to the Giants with him at QB since his rookie season.. What is that now 13 or 14 in a row? I mean damn.. Any attempt to poo poo the wins completely misses the point.

The Cowboys average 37+ points a game against the Eagles with Dak in the lineup. Jump up and down about who was at QB for the other team but that changes little about what the offense is able to accomplish in those games. Yes having the other starter in might make a difference but it could be argued that if the opponent poses more of a threat the Cowboys might hang MORE points on the Eagles not less. I mean didn't they hang 33 on them in the last meeting of 2023 with Hurts at QB? Wasn't Philly a playoff team last year and the year before and the year before? Yet when they face the Cowboys with Dak at QB they suddenly revert into the Giants? Last year Dak had over 640 yards, 5 TDs and no picks against the Eagles.. In '22 he had almost 350 yards, 3 TDs and 1 pick in the one game he faced them. In '21 he had 540 yards, 8 TDs and 0 picks in two games. Seems like it doesn't really matter who THEY start at QB, Dak lights them up. His completion percentage across those games hovers around 75%.

Again.. this is against a playoff team, even a Super Bowl team once IN THE DIVISION and he has pretty much owned them. People wanting to act like that's not important need to get a grip. Winning the division is the first step on the journey to where you want to go. Of course we want better results outside the division and in the playoffs. But that doesn't mean I have to sit up here and act as if division opponents don't carry more weight.. because frankly they just do. And I am going to celebrate them. If you don't like it... sue me.
 

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Aren't you forgetting to adjust Dak's wins bases on who THEIR qb was? For instance, either last year or the year before, a Dak led team beat the Eagles, but their starting QB was out.

If ur going to qualify our losses, you need to qualify our wins too.
Why would I need to do that? Has any of those other QBs played defense against Dak? The staggering numbers Dak puts up against the Eagles have come with Wentz, Hurts, Minshew, Foles whoever the hell you want to name has started for them. He owns them. Period. And I like it. Because I absolutely HATE the damn Eagles.
 

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You are on quite a roll the last few days. The hypocrisy has been over the top.

I can't help but respond to this one, though. You've been at your own personal war with the haters for years. It is pretty much all you post about (odd for a guy with such a background in football, hmmmm) it seems to consume you. Constant venom, crap, and hate directed at other posters.

Has your war changed anything? Is it equally as hilarious that ALL your talk has not changed a damn thing? Is your constant spewing of venom, crap and hate not equally as tiring as the same directed at a part of the team? (you know, the purpose of this forum's existence)

Oh, One more question. Are you "feeble minded" for being consumed with the "haters"?
I hate haters...I stand a better chance, changing one that all of you do, changing Daks contract.
 

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You are on quite a roll the last few days. The hypocrisy has been over the top.

I can't help but respond to this one, though. You've been at your own personal war with the haters for years. It is pretty much all you post about (odd for a guy with such a background in football, hmmmm) it seems to consume you. Constant venom, crap, and hate directed at other posters.

Has your war changed anything? Is it equally as hilarious that ALL your talk has not changed a damn thing? Is your constant spewing of venom, crap and hate not equally as tiring as the same directed at a part of the team? (you know, the purpose of this forum's existence)

Oh, One more question. Are you "feeble minded" for being consumed with the "haters"?
Oh, one more thing, I'm not comsumed...,I'm just enjoying myself, getting a good laugh at your expense. Thank you, for that.
 

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I picked out the Eagles because over the past decade or so they have been the #1 obstacle to the Cowboys winning the division
.......or you picked the Eagles because it's the one team that Cooper Rush has played the worst against. 0-3.

Do you really believe Prescott would have been able to beat the Eagles last Sunday?
 

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I picked out the Eagles because over the past decade or so they have been the #1 obstacle to the Cowboys winning the division and they show the starkest contrast in how the team has performed WITH and WITHOUT Dak Prescott. Simply put they go from being dominated without him and absolutely crushing the Eagles with him. I am not giving credit to Dak for anything except helping the team beat a team it absolutely has to beat to win the division 80% of the time. At no point have I declared Dak to be undefeated against anybody, though the Cowboys have not lost to the Giants with him at QB since his rookie season.. What is that now 13 or 14 in a row? I mean damn.. Any attempt to poo poo the wins completely misses the point.

The Cowboys average 37+ points a game against the Eagles with Dak in the lineup. Jump up and down about who was at QB for the other team but that changes little about what the offense is able to accomplish in those games. Yes having the other starter in might make a difference but it could be argued that if the opponent poses more of a threat the Cowboys might hang MORE points on the Eagles not less. I mean didn't they hang 33 on them in the last meeting of 2023 with Hurts at QB? Wasn't Philly a playoff team last year and the year before and the year before? Yet when they face the Cowboys with Dak at QB they suddenly revert into the Giants? Last year Dak had over 640 yards, 5 TDs and no picks against the Eagles.. In '22 he had almost 350 yards, 3 TDs and 1 pick in the one game he faced them. In '21 he had 540 yards, 8 TDs and 0 picks in two games. Seems like it doesn't really matter who THEY start at QB, Dak lights them up. His completion percentage across those games hovers around 75%.

Again.. this is against a playoff team, even a Super Bowl team once IN THE DIVISION and he has pretty much owned them. People wanting to act like that's not important need to get a grip. Winning the division is the first step on the journey to where you want to go. Of course we want better results outside the division and in the playoffs. But that doesn't mean I have to sit up here and act as if division opponents don't carry more weight.. because frankly they just do. And I am going to celebrate them. If you don't like it... sue me.
You were the one who brought up sample size. Go take a larger grouping and look at the whole of Dak's work against playoff teams. The record is generally terrible and includes a lot of stinkers by Dak. In fact, its one of his detractors' biggest complaints about him.

I don't hate Dak and I think the team can win with him. He is clearly better than Cooper, who has no arm. That said, he needs a good team around him to win. All QB's do. His contract makes that difficult. In particular, his insistence on taking short contracts twice in a row has really hurt Dallas' ability to put a good team around him.

Most of the QB's are taking longer deals, which helps their teams. Mahomes was a 10 year deal. Hurts is 5. Josh Allen 6. Etc.
 

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He says "1-4 against the eagles when someone other than Dak plays". It is true. Dalton 1-0, Dinucci 0-1 and Rush 0-3.

Of course, based on his logic of cherry picking, we should get Dalton back because he is undefeated against the Eagles as a Cowboys QB.
I assumed that's what he says in the ramblings but I only saw the headline which by itself is untrue.
 

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You were the one who brought up sample size. Go take a larger grouping and look at the whole of Dak's work against playoff teams. The record is generally terrible and includes a lot of stinkers by Dak. In fact, its one of his detractors' biggest complaints about him.

I don't hate Dak and I think the team can win with him. He is clearly better than Cooper, who has no arm. That said, he needs a good team around him to win. All QB's do. His contract makes that difficult. In particular, his insistence on taking short contracts twice in a row has really hurt Dallas' ability to put a good team around him.

Most of the QB's are taking longer deals, which helps their teams. Mahomes was a 10 year deal. Hurts is 5. Josh Allen 6. Etc.
Almost all QBs have a poor record against playoff teams.. because almost ALL TEAMS have a poor record against playoff teams. Teams are generally in the playoffs cause they're good. Unless you have a really good team behind you, you're going to lose more than you win. You can pull up almost every QB who has ever played and aside from Brady and maybe Mahomes I think the graphics they put up during the broadcasts show almost all QBs have a losing record against playoff teams.

Dak has put up some pretty good performances against some playoff teams over the years but unfortunately the team has not been able to come along for the ride. You make a fair point about the shorter contracts but I am not in the habit of spending another man's money. And the Cowboys have been good and bad when Dak was making 2 million a year, 30 a year, 40 a year and I suspect it will continue when he starts making 60 a year. The reason for this team's weaknesses have never been about Dak's paycheck. Remember when the Cowboys went out and signed a bunch of high dollar free agents while Dak and Zeke were making peanuts?

Yeah.. me neither.
 

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Why would I need to do that? Has any of those other QBs played defense against Dak? The staggering numbers Dak puts up against the Eagles have come with Wentz, Hurts, Minshew, Foles whoever the hell you want to name has started for them. He owns them. Period. And I like it. Because I absolutely HATE the damn Eagles.
Of course it matters who their QB is, when it comes to Dak's success. You know this...cone on.

You don't think its way easier to beat a team if the opposing offense can't function and continously goes 3 and out, and scores very few points? I know you know that it is.... hehhee ur just teasing us!

But seriously, jokes aside, Not saying his record isn't good against them anyway, but the difference between 3-1 and 4-1 isn't insignificant....about 15% adjustment, and just 1 game away from being 50/50.

Nevertheless...nobody ever claimed Dakster's problems were mostly in the REGULAR season. It's the playoffs he chokes in....and since he's never faced them in the playoffs, this thread is irrelevant to his main flaw: he's an all time playoff choke artist.
 

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when someone other than Dak Prescott starts at QB. Their only win came in the Covid year.
The offense has averaged 15.2 points per game in that span.

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in games Prescott has started.
The offense has averaged 37.6 points per game in that span.

I shall say no more. If one does not get it by now then one never shall.
C'mon man Prescott sucks and Rush is just as good as he is.
 
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