Size comparison - Jayden Blue vs. historic RBs

[Flinger]

Who was the starter at RB is time at Texas?

Winser - 1131 yards
Blue - 760 yards
Gibson - 287 yards

Split time. But there are reasons that 1 RB does not rule them all. He's extremely fast. But his speed didn't translate into becoming the 1 RB that ruled them all for Texas. Guys like Emmitt, Dorsett, Saquan, OJ... typically walk on with pedigress. There must be a reason Blue does not. Why?

Just saying, to expect 1 RB to rule them all for the Cowboys seems to be an unrealistic expectation for Blue. Nothing wrong with run by committee.

 

[speedkilz88]

He is nowhere near the same size or build as Emmitt Smith (220lbs) and Tony Dorsett played in the 70's when defensive football players were a lot smaller and slower.

I hope the kid proves everyone wrong but comparing him to two legends is doing him no favors.

Emmitt was 5-9 199 as a rookie. The 220 weight would have to be his last season weight.

 

[eromeopolk]

One of the first things I heard about Jayden Blue is that he is too small to be a RB1. Blue is 5’9” tall (same height as Emmitt Smith), and 196 lbs. (4 lbs heavier than Tony Dorsett. So, if Blue cannot handle being RB1, it really isn’t his size that is the issue.

Blue didn’t have the college production of either Smith or Dorsett, and there isn’t much evidence from his college tape that he has the vision of either of those HOF players. Who knows if Blue knows how to pick up a blitzing LB, or help the tackle by chip blocking a DE on the way to the flat?

There are plenty of reasons you might choose to justify a belief that Blue is not a RB1, or a future HOF player. But size isn’t one of them. Barry Sanders was 5’8”, while other HOF backs were larger.

I’m interested in how Blue will perform. I have zero concern about his size.

Maybe a modern version of Preston Pearson and no where near a comparison to Tony Dorsett. Unless the NFL rules and attitude changes, nobody will every be Emmitt Smith.

 

[Gambit]

Winser - 1131 yards
Blue - 760 yards
Gibson - 287 yards

Split time. But there are reasons that 1 RB does not rule them all. He's extremely fast. But his speed didn't translate into becoming the 1 RB that ruled them all for Texas. Guys like Emmitt, Dorsett, Saquan, OJ... typically walk on with pedigress. There must be a reason Blue does not. Why?

Just saying, to expect 1 RB to rule them all for the Cowboys seems to be an unrealistic expectation for Blue. Nothing wrong with run by committee.

Are they the ONLY RBs who were there during entire duration?

 

[Bates]

Are they the ONLY RBs who were there during entire duration?

He was behind Jonathan brooks and CJ Baxter 2 years ago and behind Baxter this year. Baxter was injured in camp and missed the year and split carries with wisner. Was behind bijan and roschon freshman year.

Freshman year

 

[Gambit]

He was behind Jonathan brooks and CJ Baxter 2 years ago and behind Baxter this year. Baxter was injured in camp and missed the year and split carries with wisner. Was behind bijan and roschon freshman year.

Freshman year

So, are we to determine because he is not Bijan or Brooks and split carries last year he must then he must not ever be able to be a starter? Original comment I was responding to seemed to take umbrage with the fact he won't be HOF, which is absolutely absurdity.

He may never be a "starter" but as a 5th round pick with his speed and ability to catch out of the backfield, even like up at slot, he can carve out a very good career. And he may blow everyone away and she he can be that starter.

Time will tell, but I like our RB room as it stands right now, let's give the kid the opportunity to show what he has.

But let's not forget he was behind 2 very good RBs most of his time in TX.

 

[BlindFaith]

So, are we to determine because he is not Bijan or Brooks and split carries last year he must then he must not ever be able to be a starter? Original comment I was responding to seemed to take umbrage with the fact he won't be HOF, which is absolutely absurdity.

He may never be a "starter" but as a 5th round pick with his speed and ability to catch out of the backfield, even like up at slot, he can carve out a very good career. And he may blow everyone away and she he can be that starter.

Time will tell, but I like our RB room as it stands right now, let's give the kid the opportunity to show what he has.

But let's not forget he was behind 2 very good RBs most of his time in TX.

You said it yourself. Hes a 5th round pick.

How many backs drafted before him? 10

So either Jed knows something the rest of the NFL doesnt know and we landed this sure fire 18 carries a game burner, or he's got a lot of work to do to just make the team.

Unless, of course, his dad is a scout or something. Then hes guaranteed a roster spot.

 

[Flinger]

No.

So, are we to determine because he is not Bijan or Brooks and split carries last year he must then he must not ever be able to be a starter? Original comment I was responding to seemed to take umbrage with the fact he won't be HOF, which is absolutely absurdity.

He may never be a "starter" but as a 5th round pick with his speed and ability to catch out of the backfield, even like up at slot, he can carve out a very good career. And he may blow everyone away and she he can be that starter.

Time will tell, but I like our RB room as it stands right now, let's give the kid the opportunity to show what he has.

But let's not forget he was behind 2 very good RBs most of his time in TX.

No one said he won't be our starter nor won't be a HOF'er. He will have his time. Good for him. Pulling for him.

 

[Starforever]

Yeah, what I thought.

A know nothing, acting large. Stay in your lane. Im sure your your fantasy fb league thinks you're a genius.

Pompous and immature. Your "Breakfast Club" shtick is outdated. You cannot provide any information to back your statement, so you respond with childlike behavior.

 

[BlindFaith]

Pompous and immature. Your "Breakfast Club" shtick is outdated. You cannot provide any information to back your statement, so you respond with childlike behavior.

So you couldnt find a worse group. And it wasnt hyperbole or a bold statement.

 

[OGSixshooter]

It's where the weight is distributed that matters. He is blazing fast but goes down too easily. Probably a ton of fast twitch muscle in his lower body, but it's not where the bulk of his frame lies. In fact, you can see his weight his evenly distributed...great for a normal person, but not necessarily the ideal RB physique. That said, they come in all shapes and sizes.

 

[DFWJC]

Or his 40 time

He's fast
Just don't use any Pro Day 40 times and you'll be ok.
Those are always exaggerated....and sometimes by more than full 10th of a second

 

[DFWJC]

Should do a size comp for every back that ran a 4.28 at his pro day. Betting there's not a lot of 235lb dudes.

Pro Day 40 times are joke.....and everyone....ever....knows it.

We knows he's fast though. That's all

 

[DFWJC]

He’s 5’-9” as measured at the Combine.

Never trust college measurements as they aren’t obligated to be accurate.

College measurement and home college campus Pro Day times are always BS

 

[Typhus]

Rockport’s a good dude. He’s just toxically positive.

Lick his forehead and it tastes like sugar.

 

[blueblood70]

Winser - 1131 yards
Blue - 760 yards
Gibson - 287 yards

Split time. But there are reasons that 1 RB does not rule them all. He's extremely fast. But his speed didn't translate into becoming the 1 RB that ruled them all for Texas. Guys like Emmitt, Dorsett, Saquan, OJ... typically walk on with pedigress. There must be a reason Blue does not. Why?

Just saying, to expect 1 RB to rule them all for the Cowboys seems to be an unrealistic expectation for Blue. Nothing wrong with run by committee.

Nobody's having unreal expectations we're trying to counter all the people that think he's a gadget player that he's simply a 3rd down guy that won't offer much except we're going to pass game we're trying to counter that nonsense that's a terrible narrative..

They keep talking about his size like he's lucky Whitehead or deuce fawn he's not the man it's the same exact size and speed as Jamir gives he's not far off from Tony Pollard my expectations is if used properly he will be Tony Pollard and yes running back by committee works when you do it correctly the problem is Mike McCarthy was terrible at doing things correctly when it was trying to utilize talents for specific situational football game plans game adjustments like using the proper player for the proper situation you can't have a running back by committee if you don't know what you're doing with each one of those running backs..

So a lot of our opinions is don't underestimate Jayden Blue either no ones expecting him to be a Hall of Famer i'm expecting him to be Tony Pollard if he's used properly and not worn out like Tony Bollard when they turn Tony into a 3 down back his last year here when they didn't utilize him in his best possible situation he's not the same player and it was not the injury yeah the injury may have slowed him down early they wore him down..

The fact is like Tony in college he wasn't used like a true running back he was not the starter and Jayden Blue was buried behind a lot and I mean a lot of good players at Texas I like we're getting a player with fresh legs that can put on a little bit more muscle a few pounds and he could be more than people think here but nobody's expecting him to be a three down power back...

It's nice to have a guy you can depend on but if the coaches do it right they find the right three players to rotate and they have the offensive line cooking and the play calling cooking I've seen this work with recently San Francisco did it before Christian McCarthy they had literally three guys that had over six hundred yards each on the ground and it worked they were able to get to a Super Bowl with that and Jimmy Garoppolo at quarterback..

I watched the Rams when a Super Bowl using cam acres as their soul running back come on people you you think this dude was a great back I see this a lot you don't need to be special if you have the right play calls in the mix with the running back committee but you need your offensive line in your run game to be solid to do it..

But if Rico can get 1000 yards in that mess last year they'll be able to find a way for Mafa Williams and or Sanders to be in the mix with blue coming in behind them and make this easily and improve run game....

 

[shabazz]

Jerry has and will always determine adequate size on this team.

He started with Troy Aikman and continued with Martellus Bennett.

I defer to him on all size matters

 

[shabazz]

Lick his forehead and it tastes like sugar.

If rectum is the new sugar I'm with you on that

 

[blueblood70]

Pro Day 40 times are joke.....and everyone....ever....knows it.

We knows he's fast though. That's all

Ever fits the narrative that people want to use for an argument I learned how to hear how TET was so slow and that's why he might drop in the draft but then after the pro day all of a sudden he improved his 40 time and everybody was OK with it..

so who is being hypocritical here??

it depends on the perspective we do know he's fast enough but he claims he had a groin issue he could have not ran but I'm betting he's closer to his pro day time I mean why is that hard to believe if the man can run even if he claims he was slightly dinged up and can run a 4.38 with a strained or bad groin you don't think he could have improved on that healthy?

But why does that matter?

Like you said he's fast he's going to be a difference maker if they can get the ball to him in the proper play calls he's not going to be a full time starter he's going to be more like Tony Pollard early in his career behind Zeke they just need to find Zeke like maybe not 2016 through 2019 Zeke but anybody who can put up say Rico type numbers someone who can grind out 1000 yards and be thunder and you can bring in lightning and we got to find the right mix..

But Jamir Gibbs that is the potential that Jayden Blue has you can't look at their combine numbers they're almost exact across the board their prospect grades everything 40 time height weight speed all of it it's almost identical and one went in the first round and one went in the 5th round and everyone's arguing over how Jayden blew can't do this and can't do that why, why can't he why can't he be one of those surprise players that starts out slow and that turns into a possible starter here?

We can't talk about his size his height his weight or his speed because he has all of it.

he's pretty close to a similar size as Emmitt Smith,

so that's out the window, this is not Vaugn, but this is also not ESmith this isn't AJ, we know the guys got limitations right now ,but who knows he could grow into the role.

TONY POLLARD did......

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Freshman year

Edwards, St. Louis, and Hatter...what a lineup.