Skins release a ton of guys

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SLATEmosphere;3295668 said:
Its unbelievable and really not even fair that he gets a get-out-of-jail free card.

on the positive side, let's remember that he didn't win jack with all of that money spent. :D
 

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Randle-El will be a good pickup for a team with a QB.

He's had to play with some of the most inconsistent QBs ever.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3295644 said:
Sad thing is, we'll be lucky if Roy Williams has the same impact. At least Randle El contributed elsewhere on special teams and was something of a locker-room leader.

edit: If anyone brings up TDs, I will reach through your monitor and choke you to death.


seven.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3295644 said:
Sad thing is, we'll be lucky if Roy Williams has the same impact. At least Randle El contributed elsewhere on special teams and was something of a locker-room leader.

edit: If anyone brings up TDs, I will reach through your monitor and choke you to death.

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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touchdown!!!!!!

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Touchdown!!!

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NextGenBoys;3295626 said:
I hate to see the Skins have a no cap so they can dispose of all their horrible contracts they gave out with no penalty.

They still could have dead money counting for those guys if the cap returns in 2011 or beyond.
 

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I hate the fact that the skins get to unload all of these contracts but the fall out is hilarious... From twitter:

Rock Cartwright: "What people don't realize is the Commanders like to sell jerseys."
about 1 hours ago via web

Rock Cartwright: "By him (Clinton Portis) not practicing, that put more load on us....I think that kind of takes a toll on your body."
about 1 hours ago via web

Rock Cartwright: "There was a time that there wasn't anybody practicing but Ladell Betts and I, because CP didn't want to practice."
 

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NextGenBoys;3295626 said:
How many of those are huge contracts?

I hate to see the Skins have a no cap so they can dispose of all their horrible contracts they gave out with no penalty.

20 mil or so including samuels retirement. It will go up more before seven this evening when they dump deangelo hall to avoid the hit on his bonus
 

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SLATEmosphere;3295634 said:
Yeah he got extremely lucky.

I hate that he's getting bailed out.

I think it's great.

What people don't understand is that by releasing all of these guys, they need to find replacements. THAT is the tough thing to do in the NFL. It's easy to get rid of a player you don't like and that's not meeting expectations, but finding a replacement is another thing.

My guess is that they'll release more players, make a big splash in FA and cause more problems for themselves come 2011 when the cap comes back. Same old, same old.




3JACK
 

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hopefully jerry takes the same approach. shed some fat

flozell, hamlin..
 

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Woods;3295628 said:
me too. wonder if he could play back-up NT? i haven't really followed him the past year though.

I've always like him too, but wouldn't be interested now. If we don't get a guy in the draft and think he is an upgrade over Junior, then I would give him a look. He is still solid, but I would rather have a young guy with upside. I don't know if he would hold up if Ratliff had to miss any significant time.
 

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Yakuza Rich;3295752 said:
What people don't understand is that by releasing all of these guys, they need to find replacements. THAT is the tough thing to do in the NFL. It's easy to get rid of a player you don't like and that's not meeting expectations, but finding a replacement is another thing.


But a team like the Deadskins, this scenario is EXACTLY what they needed. This makes it easier for them to change the culture of their club. Now they don't get penalized for the mistakes they made in the past. They get to have a pretty clean slate and even if they have to replace 30-40 players on their roster, they'd be better off doing it this way than having to wait until it was " cap feasible".

If I was a true Deadskin fan, I'd be very excited about this times because finally I'd get to see some real football decision making instead of some fantasy league/make a dream come true for the rich and the spoiled organization.
 

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I missed this thread so I made an extraneous one in the NFL Zone.

10 players were cut in total
Ladell Betts, Marcus Mason, Todd Collins, JD Skolnitzky (who?), Eddie Williams, Cornelius Griffin, Randy Thomas, Antwaan Randle El, Rock Cartwright, and Fred Smoot.
 

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WOW NFLN just said that the Commanders could be a team that's willingly to give up a lot of cash for Julius Peppers.
 

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WG5516;3295810 said:
WOW NFLN just said that the Commanders could be a team that's willingly to give up a lot of cash for Julius Peppers.
Haha, what insight.

Not going to happen though. Dansby on the other hand . . . RT @Jeff_Darlington In wake of a recent report, I'm told LB Karlos Dansby IS NOT flying to South Florida tonight.
 

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AdamJT13;3295731 said:
They still could have dead money counting for those guys if the cap returns in 2011 or beyond.
I thought that it all accelerated into this year since it's before June 1. Is that not what happens? What dead money would there be in later years?
 

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Skinsmaniac;3295817 said:
I thought that it all accelerated into this year since it's before June 1. Is that not what happens? What dead money would there be in later years?



That depends on the negotiations for the new CBA. They'd have to grandfather those contracts or make them retroactive under the new cap. Although possible, I don't think that's probable.

I think the new CBA will have a tougher cap in place and it will count the existing contracts, but not terminated ones.

One of the reasons why I'm saying that just happened. Bengals cut Coles after guranteeing him 10 million dollars just last year. That wouldn't happen if the Bengals had to factor in a future cap hit.

We'll see..
 

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Randy White;3295830 said:
That depends on the negotiations for the new CBA. They'd have to grandfather those contracts or make them retroactive under the new cap. Although possible, I don't think that's probable.

I think the new CBA will have a tougher cap in place and it will count the existing contracts, but not terminated ones.

We'll see..
I think that's right. Owners are acting based upon the rules of the game now. Every owner knew that this day was possible, so they were all playing on a level field. I don't see owners agreeing on a new CBA where the rules of the game are changed retroactively.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3295837 said:
I think that's right. Owners are acting based upon the rules of the game now. Every owner knew that this day was possible, so they were all playing on a level field. I don't see owners agreeing on a new CBA where the rules of the game are changed retroactively.

It wouldn't make sense because all they'd be doing is hurting themselves retroactively. The players don't care much one way or the other because they already got their money upfront.

However, the reason why the accelerated part of the bonus against the cap was put in place was to prevent exactly this situation, ie: sweeping mistakes under the rug, because by doing so, it could and would leave them vunurable to make similar mistakes which would artificially drive up the market. By putting this rule in, teams were supposed to think hard before dishing out large amount of guranteed money. It didn't work for the most part because teams still did that anyways, but they had to carry the mistake for a while.

The rule will be back in place under the new CBA, I expect it to be even tougher, but to apply it retroactively I just don't see it.
 
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