Skins vs Patriots *Merge*

[Bizwah]

Jimmy Johnson and Dallas cheated in 1990's too.

Their play on field is TOTALLY hammering teams.

Just like what Garrett and we were doing early in season. Then its all fine!

No they didn't

 

[Nors]

Lets see if Skins kneel?

If not they deserve to get hammered more

 

[Rack]

So uhhhh.... why cheat?


I mean NZ, you appear to have all the answers. Please full us in?

"Who cares about the Pats cheating?"


That has to be one of the best quotes ive read all year. Truly, who cares if the other team cheats to win. Just as long as you win.

Ain't no thang.

I have no doubt they're still cheating too. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

... thinking about it, if we were up 52 - 7 against the Commanders, I'd probably want us to score the TD and go for 2 to make it an even 60 - 7, lol.

This whole forum would. Rightly so.

 

[theogt]

See what I mean?? Classless, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

We will lose, but it is not the point. No team wins every game. Does not happen. We will lose.

It is called excuses. When we do lose, I don't think you will hear the nonsense I have been hearing.

I guess no one should really expect a classless cheater to feel bad about being a classless cheater.

 

[koolaid]

Yeah, because Jimmy Johnson NEVER was accused of being ruthless or running up the score. :laugh2:

Please, it's just being a hater. It's envy. People can't stand the fact that they're so much better than everyone else. It's the same thing with the Yankees, and the Lakers when they were good, and the Cowboys at one time. Brady is about as classy as it gets. He won't even do commercials unless his offensive linemen are included (a far cry from Manning, who will ***** himself out to anyone and everyone). If there is a question of who I would rather my son emmulate, Brady or Michael Irvin, it's pretty much a no brainer.

 

[Bizwah]

then why are you posting on a cowboys forum to point this out if you don't care

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh....burn!

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yeah, because Jimmy Johnson NEVER was accused of being ruthless or running up the score. :laugh2:

I'd ask you for an example, but I'm sure you won't provide one.

It's one thing to be accused once or twice for running up the score, but to be known for it in in a single season like Belicheat has in every game?

Sure thing man.

 

[sacowboysfan513]

See what I mean?? Classless, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

We will lose, but it is not the point. No team wins every game. Does not happen. We will lose.

It is called excuses. When we do lose, I don't think you will hear the nonsense I have been hearing.

Just enjoy the team while it last. This is a very, and I mean very good team you are cheering for.

 

[Pats Fan]

I guess no one should really expect a classless cheater to feel bad about being a classless cheater.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

[Undisputed]

then why are you posting on a cowboys forum to point this out if you don't care

Checkmate.

 

[03EBZ06]

Who cares about the Pats cheating. They didn't need to cheat, they are too *** good.

But they did and you nor I know what impact that cheating had on their close wins. I don't give a **** how good they are, they are classless and belicheat is an egostical cheating ******.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Well, I predicted 56-0 Patriots. Guess I will have to be happy with 52-7. I hope Indy stomps New England into the ground. Colts 45, New England 21

 

[Dallas]

I'd ask you for an example, but I'm sure you won't provide one.

It's one thing to be accused once or twice for running up the score, but to be known for it in in a single season like Belicheat has in every game?

Sure thing man.

IR is just trying to prove a point. I don't ever recall Aikman being in a game when it was 45-0.

I also agreee when IR is saying this crap that he does need to bring some evidence of the fact.

As of yet. We probably won't see anything because Johnson never did what BB is doing this year.

 

[DallasCowboysRule!]

Why is this Pats fan even here anyway? Because Eskins is down so he can't troll there?

I'm gonna enjoy watching the Pats lose to Indy in the playoffs this year.

 

[Rackat]

That was ucking fugly. But I loved it.

 

[NewJCowboy]

What a GREAT game!!!

 

[Pats Fan]

Just enjoy the team while it last. This is a very, and I mean very good team you are cheering for.

Yep, I agree. And it will not last. But if it were you, well, you just have to enjoy it. I think it has everything to do with Brady getting some weapons.

But we face the Colts next week and they are every bit as good as we are. A battle of the ages. Wish it were in Foxboro, but take what you get.

Going to be a shootout next week.

 

[03EBZ06]

funny, but i found your rebuttle much more "classless" than his initial argument

That's probably because you drink belicheat's koolaid.

 

[Nors]

Just cuz you post that every freakin' other 3 posts doesn't make it true.

http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php

Q: How about the spying thing Jimmy. You're a coach does that bother you what Belichick did?

JJ: Oh please. I've said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they're not on the press box side you can't do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.

Q: You think the NFL came down too hard on them?

JJ: No, no, I said it on the show. He was wrong for doing it for the simple reason that the league knew this was going on not ust in New England but around the league. And the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And os that's when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don't do it any more, he did it.

[B]Q: Did you ever steal signals?

JJ: Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did.

Q: Via video, Jimmy? Or no?

JJ: Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you're going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace. [/B]Q: But did you do it by taping the signal caller?

JJ: Yeah.

Q: Oh you did.

JJ: That's what I'm saying. I was saying one of Marty Schottenheimers scouts, Mark Hatley, who has passed away now, Mark told me that's how they did it, and Howard Mudd their offensive line coach with Kansas City, who now coaches for Tony Dungy, he was the best in the entire league at stealing signals.

Q: Where'd you put your guy who was videotaping? Where was he?

JJ: My guy was up with my camera crew in the press box. So you'd just put an extra camera up with your camera crew in the press box who zoomed in on the signal callers. That's the best way to do it, but anyway you can't always do that because the press box camera crew might be on the same side as the opposing team. If they're on the same side as the opposing team that's when you need to do it from the sideline.
Q: Also with some operations and some teams they have equipment set up within the stadium so they can just run it ack and check what's going on during the game anyway.

JJ: Oh I'll tell you [laughing] some of the stuff that goes on it's almost comical.

Q: Jimmy don't you think using contraptions like that goes against the spirit of football?

JJ: Well that's why the league put in that you can't use any electronic equipment, during the game, locker room, press box, sideline, this type of thing. They ruled against it and again that's why Bill Belichick was wrong.

Q: How much of an advantage would it give them?

JJ: Well you know Bradshaw and I had a talk back and forth on this. I did it a few times and then I stopped doing it because I didn't think we got much out of it to be honest with you. But games are so close... If it gives you one single play in the ballgame it might be the difference. But again, he was wrong for doing it after the memorandum was sent out by the league, because the league knew that other teams were doing it. And so... it was a commonplace thing though.