CFZ Smart move will let both Zeke/Pollard go!

[ICP]

Yeah but we have Dumb and Dumber steering the ship. They will Franchise Pollard who will probably end up not being the same player and renegotiate Zeke, still pay him way too much, and will be the same washed up RB that can't really do anything well anymore but provide a few blocks a game

 

[ICP]

Not the coaches generally. Not Quinn. He's probably HC in waiting if McCarthy/Dak fail. It's that pair who are on the hot seat, and then the McCarthy offensive coaches if McCarthy fails.

It still ends up another wasted year

 

[quickccc]

You picked the one outlier.
The last few seasons they had many plugged in.

they did not have an elite, difference making RB like McCaffrey ... a back that they clearly thought would be one to take them to the next upper level.

.My point ? there's a difference between elite ..vs dime a dozen bunch pile.blue print

you go bunch pile dime a dozen if you don't have that elite difference maker

 

[phildadon86]

The blueprint has been presented. Take a page out of Philly & the 49ers RB system. Just bring piles of them and churn them forward. We have fans still complaining about Elliott getting drafted & then extended, but want to draft Robinson.

Robinson will be a late first round pick. Compared to a top 5 pick.

Apples to bowling balls.

 

[G2]

they did not have an elite, difference making RB like McCaffrey ... a back that they clearly thought would be one to take them to the next upper level.

.My point ? there's a difference between elite ..vs dime a dozen bunch pile.blue print

you go bunch pile dime a dozen if you don't have that elite difference maker

I never said "elite" that's your words.
They recently lost in the super bowl and in the NFC Championship game.
All without an "elite" RB.
This year in the playoffs A backup reserve RB had more yardage.

 

[Loso86]

How did the run game help anyone vs. the 49ers? Except the 49ers.
We didn't sniff 100 yards collectively. In a playoff game!

Everyone likes to mention the "No.1 offense" but never the important games.

It was non existence was it not?

 

[G2]

Robinson will be a late first round pick. Compared to a top 5 pick.

Apples to bowling balls.

I really don't care when we pick in the 1st round, I'm not spending an early pick on a RB considered to be elite. Or before the 3rd or 4th round if I really like a guy.
For what 4 years, maybe 5? Then you're going to extend him. If you don't, why draft a RB?
If he's really good, then he'll want RB market value.
Then we're right back in the mess we are.

 

[phildadon86]

I really don't care when we pick in the 1st round, I'm not spending an early pick on a RB considered to be elite. Or before the 3rd or 4th round if I really like a guy.
For what 4 years, maybe 5? Then you're going to extend him. If you don't, why draft a RB?
If he's really good, then he'll want RB market value.
Then we're right back in the mess we are.

Not really. RB market value in the next 5 years will be very low. Now is actually probably the best time to draft a RB early.

 

[G2]

Not really. RB market value in the next 5 years will be very low. Now is actually probably the best time to draft a RB early.

No it won't, it goes up every time a decent RB get resigned.
You mention McCaffery, he just signed and is the highest paid among all RBs.
Elliott is 2nd, how did that work out?
All the rest top/high paying RBs are not making the difference. Why not draft positions that have longer careers?

 

[phildadon86]

No it won't, it goes up every time a decent RB get resigned.
You mention McCaffery, he just signed and is the highest paid among all RBs.
Elliott is 2nd, how did that work out?
All the rest top/high paying RBs are not making the difference. Why not draft positions that have longer careers?

CMC signed 3 years ago bro lol.

 

[quickccc]

I never said "elite" that's your words.
They recently lost in the super bowl and in the NFC Championship game.
All without an "elite" RB.
This year in the playoffs A backup reserve RB had more yardage.

- you nor i myself don't have to say Elite .. that's what he (McCaffrey) is .. .
And elite describes greater level of skill play and that increases better competition in team play

Had they had Elite RB in very close games per SB and '22 NFC title game, despite an above average QB, that might have been the differences
in them advancing or winning the SB. .

With a guy with McCaffrey's skill level and instant explosiveness, it doesn't even have to carrying the ball
He is just as deadly in receiving the ball

- if it's about back ups . dime a dozen, why else would Niners give up so many picks and take on his highest paid RB contract ?

 

[G2]

CMC signed 3 years ago bro lol.

Jeez, you're right.. But you get what I'm saying.
I have this personal vendetta against drafting RBs early, so I'm probably not the right guy to ask, lol.

 

[G2]

- you nor i myself don't have to say Elite .. that's what he (McCaffrey) is .. .
And elite describes greater level of skill play and that increases better competition in team play

Had they had Elite RB in very close games per SB and '22 NFC title game, despite an above average QB, that might have been the differences
in them advancing or winning the SB. .

With a guy with McCaffrey's skill level and instant explosiveness, it doesn't even have to carrying the ball
He is just as deadly in receiving the ball

- if it's about back ups . dime a dozen, why else would Niners give up so many picks and take on his highest paid RB contract ?

I enjoyed this latest lesson on the word "elite" lol.
Let's look local.
Pollard didn't get to play a big enough role until his 4th season.
I think we can all agree Elliott is done minus a limited role.
Who's getting paid, how does Elliott contribute vs. Pollard who was a 4th.
So, our own staff can't really be trusted to run a consistent run game, regardless of our opinions lol.

 

[blueblood70]

Yeah but we have Dumb and Dumber steering the ship. They will Franchise Pollard who will probably end up not being the same player and renegotiate Zeke, still pay him way too much, and will be the same washed up RB that can't really do anything well anymore but provide a few blocks a game

if they cut zeke he still makes 5.7 mil in 2023 6mil in 24 what if the renegotiate down to that number like 2 yrs 12mil to play instead of 12mil to be gone? then FT pollard, they have options let go of pollard get 3rd round comp pick grab very good rb around 3-4round with the same skill set and now with Malik, zeke, and RB TBD,

lots of options so lets calm down. dont think any of the above is terrible. agreed you cant pay Zeke anymore then that as it doesn't make sense. cant overpay Pollard either, correct Rbs easer to replace than any other positions. flexibility is good.

going to be an interesting offseason to say the least with Pollard, Schultz and zeke might be all gone. movig on from Mcgovern and drafting a more physical OG helps the ol and the Run game and saves money.

 

[DandyDon52]

In my opinion, no need to discuss Zeke Elliot, he is finished and shouldn't come back in any capacity.

Pollard is a whole other discussion, he is a true homerun hitter where he can score anytime he touches the football, could even be better if the coaches allow him to be the guy, involve him in the screen/passing games. However, he is coming off serious injury that can affect his greatest strength-his explosiveness.

Extending running backs has been disasterous in today's game. Almost all running backs with their 2nd contracts fall off the cliff, we seen it with Zeke, Gurley and Bell. Look at the playoff teams, most have running back committees that are very cap friendly or have dual threat running backs that take on most of the load.

Yes, Pollard doesn't have much wear and tear, but they can draft multiple backs that can give them similar production at 1/3 the price.

This year is a very talented, deep, running back class, select one high (1-3) and another one on day 3. Could always sign a cheap veteran in fa as well.

one problem lol jerry jones !
he still likes zeke, said his stats dont show his true value lol.
and pollard, jerry will probably tag him or try to sign him to cheap deal.

you guys just dont seem to understand jerry , he isnt going to use logic or common sense.

 

[FVSTONE]

In my opinion, no need to discuss Zeke Elliot, he is finished and shouldn't come back in any capacity.

Pollard is a whole other discussion, he is a true homerun hitter where he can score anytime he touches the football, could even be better if the coaches allow him to be the guy, involve him in the screen/passing games. However, he is coming off serious injury that can affect his greatest strength-his explosiveness.

Extending running backs has been disasterous in today's game. Almost all running backs with their 2nd contracts fall off the cliff, we seen it with Zeke, Gurley and Bell. Look at the playoff teams, most have running back committees that are very cap friendly or have dual threat running backs that take on most of the load.

Yes, Pollard doesn't have much wear and tear, but they can draft multiple backs that can give them similar production at 1/3 the price.

This year is a very talented, deep, running back class, select one high (1-3) and another one on day 3. Could always sign a cheap veteran in fa as well.

A running back with as much leg damage as Pollard has doesn't play too well in today's NFL. Save some money and let them both walk because it's not like this team is going to be that much better with them.

 

[stilltheguru]

I’m a Pollard guy.. If we can do a 2 year deal I’d be up for it. He’s just so impactful.

But if we let Zeke and Pollard walk then replacing them will be easy.

Replacing Pollards big play ability will be almost impossible though.

If Josh Jacobs hits free agency and he costs as much as Pollard I’d probably sign Jacobs.

That's not smart imo

 

[CATCH17]

That's not smart imo

You’re right. Just draft.

 

[MizzouCowboy4]

I would…in the hypothetical we would tag Pollard we would save like 20+ million.

You just can’t, can’t, can’t build a championship caliber roster with big money invested in the RB position.

Believe the Chiefs and Eagles both have less than 5 mil TOTAL.

Chiefs and Eagles have elite talent at Wideout and qb

 

[Cowboyny]

A running back with as much leg damage as Pollard has doesn't play too well in today's NFL. Save some money and let them both walk because it's not like this team is going to be that much better with them.

Pollard is all about what the team doctors believe, if they say it's no a issue, then fine. Best thing to do is just tag him, see what happens in the draft and how he performs for a yr.