So It Only Took T.O. 3 Weeks...

[SLATEmosphere]

Nothing I post will be accepted as "proof," so why would I waste my time?

Quotes, audio, video..ect..

Im curious to see what he's been saying.

 

[Kevinicus]

Quotes, audio, video..ect..

Im curious to see what he's been saying.

The only evidence that seems to exist is the OP's post. You'd think this would be all over ESPN and NFL network.

 

[Hostile]

It is naive to believe this. It's certainly not ideal, but it certainly can, and has been done.

Prove it.

 

[Hostile]

Quotes, audio, video..ect..

Im curious to see what he's been saying.

[Bengals] Bengals WR Terrell Owens Unhappy With QB Carson Palmer
Bengals wide receiver Terrell Owens is already unhappy with quarterback Carson Palmer, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I've been open on a number of routes, and for whatever reason, there's always been some kind of breakdown with protection, or Carson has to come out of the pocket, or he's rushed. I'm not going to gripe. The most important thing, as I've alluded to here is we're winning. If we were losing, then I would definitely have a lot to say." Of course, T.O. made sure to add he only cares about winning. Just like the millionaire who goes on T.V. to announce a huge donation to charity only cares about helping out the community. Once a headcase, always a headcase.



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Bengals WR Terrell Owens Unhappy With QB Carson Palmer


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Bengals wide receiver Terrell Owens is already unhappy with quarterback Carson Palmer, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I've been open on a number of routes, and for whatever reason, there's always been some kind of breakdown with protection, or Carson has to come out of the pocket, or he's rushed. I'm not going to gripe. The most important thing, as I've alluded to here is we're winning. If we were losing, then I would definitely have a lot to say." Of course, T.O. made sure to add he only cares about winning. Just like the millionaire who goes on T.V. to announce a huge donation to charity only cares about helping out the community. Once a headcase, always a headcase.

Source: RotoTimes


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[Blackspider214]

Yes! That was the exact quote I heard when I made this post. I would not make this for no reason and I really do not see how hard it is to believe as he has thrown every team he has played for prior to Cincy under the bus. You think all of a sudden he has changed after all these years?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Ok thanks.

Looks like TO is still doing his underlying comments to the media. So glad he's off this team.

 

[Kevinicus]

Yep, certainly calling out his teammates there.

He could have said, "Carson hasn't been able to hit the broad side of a barn, I'm not superman, I can't fly and catch balls thrown 4 yards behind me."

Instead, he's basically said that there have been times Carson hasn't had the opportunity to get it to him. Seems to me he went out of his way to let Carson off the hook. And before you go off saying he's throwing the OL under the bus, it'd ridiculous to think someone saying there was pressure at times as being harsh. In the NFL there is always going to be pressure at times, that's how it is.

The articles are poorly written when they say he's unhappy with Palmer, and then quote Owens who basically gives Palmer a free pass and absolves him of blame.

Sounds like he's sticking up for his QB to me.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It is naive to believe this. It's certainly not ideal, but it certainly can, and has been done.

I'm curious as to when, and who, this ever happened with in football. What team won a championship (or championships) with a player who put himself, and his own success, above the team and theirs?

 

[Kevinicus]

I'm curious as to when, and who, this ever happened with in football. What team won a championship (or championships) with a player who put himself, and his own success, above the team and theirs?

I'm sure there are players on every single championship team in history who put their own success first. Most won't be as prominent as T.O. but it doesn't mean they don't exist. If you don't think out of 53 guys there aren't going to be at least a few who are more concerned about themselves than the team, then I think that's just naive.

And I'm not of the opinion that T.O. does put his success first since he only seems to have "issues" when the TEAM success is lacking. But, if you are so inclined as to believe those are his priorities, then T.O. is an example of a player who fits that description. He has been a VERY productive player, and has been to the superbowl and was the best player for his team that day as well.

 

[casmith07]

Terrell Owens just can't help himself.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm sure there are players on every single championship team in history who put their own success first. Most won't be as prominent as T.O. but it doesn't mean they don't exist.

And I'm not of the opinion that T.O. does put his success first since he only seems to have "issues" when the TEAM success is lacking. But, if you are so inclined as to believe those are his priorities, then T.O. is an example of a player who fits that description. He has been a VERY productive player, and has been to the superbowl and was the best player for his team that day as well.

So what you're saying is you have no example and you simply stated that it has happened, as if it were fact, without any actual evidence to back that up?

I'm not saying that I believe TO is, or isn't, that way. I think there are times where he displays an attitude that comes off, at the very least, as if he would really rather catch 10 balls for over 200 yards and score a TD or two, in a losing effort over having a game where he catches 2 passes for 28 yards and the team wins.

Now I don't know if that's how he really feels, or if its just misinterpretation of what he's saying, but there have been times in the past where he's said something to the effect of 'Yeah we're having success but I know for us to really have success I have to have the ball.'

Now some might say that is him being selfish, and maybe it is, and some might just say thats the competitor in him wanting to shine in an effort to help his team be more effective.

I'd like to think he wants the ball to help the team win but I don't know him personally and have not been around him on the football field. I know he opens himself up for things like this with some of the things he says. For example I was watching an episode of In Their Own Words on Hulu today, about TO, and one of the examples they were showing, and asking him about, was when he was on the sideline in SF one time, exploding, over the fact that he was tired of running pass routes for nothing, cause they weren't throwing him the ball.

That type of attitude, on display even once, will sour a person, like Hos, toward TO forever and, sadly, it's not the only time he's made statements where it's allowed people to believe he's ultimately a very selfish player.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yep, certainly calling out his teammates there.

I get what you're going for with the rest of your post but this part of it seems weird to me. You say that and roll your eyes. How do you not see that as calling his teammates out? He, at the very least, is blatantly calling out the O-Line for not giving Carson enough time to find him. That's exactly what calling out his team mates is.

Is he letting Carson off the hook? Maybe. But if he's not trying to make a comment about Carson's play then he wouldn't be needing to find a way to let him off the hook, would he?

The reality is that TO should have learned, long ago, that he doesn't need to, and shouldn't, chirp the media about how he's getting open and for this reason or that reason or this reason he's not getting the ball. It makes it look like, rather he's intending for it to or not, like he's blaming everything on his teammates.

 

[hornitosmonster]

TO will not win you games by making him the focus of the offense. But on the bright side TO is happy even if his teammate are mad about the loss.

 

[Hostile]

Nothing I post will be accepted as "proof," so why would I waste my time?

Holy crap, at times I am omniscient.

Yep, certainly calling out his teammates there.

He could have said, "Carson hasn't been able to hit the broad side of a barn, I'm not superman, I can't fly and catch balls thrown 4 yards behind me."

Instead, he's basically said that there have been times Carson hasn't had the opportunity to get it to him. Seems to me he went out of his way to let Carson off the hook. And before you go off saying he's throwing the OL under the bus, it'd ridiculous to think someone saying there was pressure at times as being harsh. In the NFL there is always going to be pressure at times, that's how it is.

The articles are poorly written when they say he's unhappy with Palmer, and then quote Owens who basically gives Palmer a free pass and absolves him of blame.

Sounds like he's sticking up for his QB to me.

 

[Kevinicus]

Holy crap, at times I am omniscient.

Well, if that's all you have, then yeah, you were right. It was at least something closer though, which was an improvement.

 

[Kevinicus]

I get what you're going for with the rest of your post but this part of it seems weird to me. You say that and roll your eyes. How do you not see that as calling his teammates out? He, at the very least, is blatantly calling out the O-Line for not giving Carson enough time to find him. That's exactly what calling out his team mates is.

Is he letting Carson off the hook? Maybe. But if he's not trying to make a comment about Carson's play then he wouldn't be needing to find a way to let him off the hook, would he?

The reality is that TO should have learned, long ago, that he doesn't need to, and shouldn't, chirp the media about how he's getting open and for this reason or that reason or this reason he's not getting the ball. It makes it look like, rather he's intending for it to or not, like he's blaming everything on his teammates.

So, a QB throws 3 interceptions in a game, and after the game another player asks about the game, and they make a comment about not being able to win when you make turnovers and you just can't have those kind of plays...is he throwing the QB under the bus? They're pointing out the mistakes of one player as a reason for not being able to win. This kind of comment happens all the time, and nobody says a thing, because it's true.

T.O. didn't say the offensive line was horrible. He just said there were, at times, plays where Carson had to escape some pressure. Again, it's not uncommon for a QB to have to do those types of things, it's not really a big deal for them to have to do it sometimes, and it's not calling out the offensive line. Comments about pass protection breakdowns happen all the time, by QBs, coaches, etc. I'm sure there were a few last night after the Bears/Giants game.

 

[Kevinicus]

I'm not saying that I believe TO is, or isn't, that way. I think there are times where he displays an attitude that comes off, at the very least, as if he would really rather catch 10 balls for over 200 yards and score a TD or two, in a losing effort over having a game where he catches 2 passes for 28 yards and the team wins.

But what would cause you to believe that? Did he act all happy after the loss yesterday? Why is it the issues come only when a team is struggling? The evidence (at least that which is available to the general public) overwhelmingly suggests he hates to lose much more than he hates poor stats.

 

[Hostile]

Well, if that's all you have, then yeah, you were right. It was at least something closer though, which was an improvement.

Oh, but it isn't all I have. I just don't care enough to post some things about him.

 

[stilltheguru]

When Carson can start to throw accurate past the 15 yard mark consistently then we can talk about whether TO sucks or not. I have seen Carson throw Donovan like dirtballs to a wide open TO. But of course Hostile doesn't care about that. You already said that you are bias when it comes to TO so it's fine. I am bias to him also to a degree. If something is his fault I will let it be known. I think he played like *** against the Patriots. Every game since then he has looked like TO to me. The only reason Shipley numbers looks so good is because he is the slot wr getting all of Carsons dink and dunk passes. Watch the Bengals play or be quiet is the moral of this story. Even the bomb to TO looked kinda suspect.

 

[zrinkill]

Watch the Bengals play or be quiet is the moral of this story.

We have ...... the real "moral" to this story is that you Owens fanatics blame the QB at every team he has ever been on.


Thats a fact ..... you did it here ..... you did it in buffalo ...... and you are doing it now.