So many needs this offseason, more then I can remember

[cnuball21]

The front office has their work cut out for them this offseason, where there are many pivotal in-house free agents, along with outside needs:

-TE-Shultz market value come exceed 12 million, Jarwin cannot stay healthy, very little depth behind them.
-LB-both Lve, Neal are unrestricted fa's, have just special teamers under contract, outside of Parsons
-WR-Gallup, Wilson, Brown are all unrestricted and cannot play on low cost, rookie deals any longer.
-DE-Gregory/Armstrong are unrestricted, DLaw costs around 30 million against the cap, little depth
-S-I believe we just have Wilson under contract, Kearse is looking for a payday
-NT-Watkins/Urban are unrestricted, Bohanna showed very little as a rookie
-LG-Connor Williams isn't expected back, McGovern flopped when he was given a chance, Collins has been far better as a Tackle then a Guard.
-C-Biaz has his ups and downs last season, team has only unproven prospects behind him.
-Anger is a fa coming off a pro bowl yr, Zuerline needs to be replaced, even our LS is unrestricted.

At least a quarter of the starting roster has to be addressed. They aren't going to pay everyone top dollar to keep them nor have the funds to do so. The front office is going to have to find success with value free agents and hit on the majority of their picks.

There are quite a few holes but the only ones I’m worried about are LG, DE (pending decision on Tank/Gregory) and WR (pending decision on Coop).

The most important thing to me is protecting the QB. Dak has shown he can play at an incredibly high level when he has time even when missing WRs. I would make LG a priority in FA and the draft. Past that, fingers crossed we can hang on to
Cooper and Tank. If we can’t, DE is the strongest position in the draft so hope you hit and we have an up and coming #1 in Lamb so we’d need to get another solid 2.

 

[Cowboyny]

There are quite a few holes but the only ones I’m worried about are LG, DE (pending decision on Tank/Gregory) and WR (pending decision on Coop).

The most important thing to me is protecting the QB. Dak has shown he can play at an incredibly high level when he has time even when missing WRs. I would make LG a priority in FA and the draft. Past that, fingers crossed we can hang on to
Cooper and Tank. If we can’t, DE is the strongest position in the draft so hope you hit and we have an up and coming #1 in Lamb so we’d need to get another solid 2.

We are on the same page with the top 3 position priorities. Even if both DLaw and Gregory return, the team has to get younger and cheaper at the position as both players will be 30 next season. As for WR, we sense that either Cooper or Gallup will be gone and possible neither are apart of their long term plans. Adding a future starter for 2023 is needed. Quite honestly, if our offense cannot run the football, they won't even be a playoff team, have to fix the run game. Left Guard is a huge hole, as is, finding a better inline blocking TE.

 

[Stash]

Yes, for the most part Defense held up, having 7 points thru 3 quarters in a home playoff game, will not beat anybody.

I remember it differently. Specifically an opening drive where the 49’ers drove down the field like a hot knife through butter.

 

[Dalmations202]

So who’s playing DE, WR, and LG for you?

At DE, I have a restructured Tank for at least a year. I think he is better than Gregory and Armstrong. And I am using most of my FA $$$ for VMiller or another big name. Tanks contract is better killed next year than this one.
At WR, I have my #1 and #2. Yes Coop needs to be restructured, but Coop, CD and worrying about a #3 isn't horrid. Productive #3's aren't that hard to find, #1's and #2's are.
At LG.. I am all in for try it all. Collins to LG, Farinok and Biadasz get a shot at both positions, Alarcon is huge, he gets a shot. Heck, I even challenge my Strength and Conditioning coach to get McGovern up to strength/speed. And I take my 4-6 round picks looking for a diamond in the rough. If they can get a UDFA in Steele to perform well enough to start, why can't they coach up one of the 5-6 guys there well enough to perform on Sundays?

Adding an impactive TE increases the running game, and lessens the need for #3 WR anyway.
Adding an impactive LB increases the ability to stop the run, defend the pass, and allows for Parsons to come from anywhere, taking the D level up a notch.
Adding a legit 1T forces a double team and stops the inside runs, as well as collapses the pocket. If good enough forces extra players to stay in to block and lessens the players in route.

Don't get me wrong, if a guy you decide is a can't miss impact player is available in the 1st -- you take him whether he is a OL, DL, or QB or any other position for that matter.

I just think that these players are tied with this coaching staff. If you are going to keep the coaching staff, keep the players they have chosen and build, not just hope.

If they don't succeed, then burn it down-- next year -- cut Zeke, Dak, Tank, Smith, heck even Martin is getting old, pay the piper for one year and get a high draft pick, then you can let the next set of coaches have their players and hold all of them accountable.

If they do succeed, AWESOME. At least you didn't stay mediocre like I have been seeing for years.

 

[Stash]

At DE, I have a restructured Tank for at least a year. I think he is better than Gregory and Armstrong. And I am using most of my FA $$$ for VMiller or another big name. Tanks contract is better killed next year than this one.

Until you restructure it like you’re wanting. No more grossly overpaying him. Tear off that bandaid.

At WR, I have my #1 and #2. Yes Coop needs to be restructured, but Coop, CD and worrying about a #3 isn't horrid. Productive #3's aren't that hard to find, #1's and #2's are.

More kicking the can accounting. I’m not a fan.

At LG.. I am all in for try it all. Collins to LG, Farinok and Biadasz get a shot at both positions, Alarcon is huge, he gets a shot. Heck, I even challenge my Strength and Conditioning coach to get McGovern up to strength/speed. And I take my 4-6 round picks looking for a diamond in the rough. If they can get a UDFA in Steele to perform well enough to start, why can't they coach up one of the 5-6 guys there well enough to perform on Sundays?

I’m down for that.

Adding an impactive TE increases the running game, and lessens the need for #3 WR anyway.
Adding an impactive LB increases the ability to stop the run, defend the pass, and allows for Parsons to come from anywhere, taking the D level up a notch.
Adding a legit 1T forces a double team and stops the inside runs, as well as collapses the pocket. If good enough forces extra players to stay in to block and lessens the players in route.

I definitely think they draft another linebacker. Maybe two.

Don't get me wrong, if a guy you decide is a can't miss impact player is available in the 1st -- you take him whether he is a OL, DL, or QB or any other position for that matter.

Agreed.

I just think that these players are tied with this coaching staff. If you are going to keep the coaching staff, keep the players they have chosen and build, not just hope.

If they don't succeed, then burn it down-- next year -- cut Zeke, Dak, Tank, Smith, heck even Martin is getting old, pay the piper for one year and get a high draft pick, then you can let the next set of coaches have their players and hold all of them accountable.

If they do succeed, AWESOME. At least you didn't stay mediocre like I have been seeing for years.

Just keep in mind that any restructures this year makes it harder to move on next year.

 

[Cowboyny]

I remember it differently. Specifically an opening drive where the 49’ers drove down the field like a hot knife through butter.

They struggled early, but gave the offense plenty of chances, giving up just 23 points.

 

[Dalmations202]

Until you restructure it like you’re wanting. No more grossly overpaying him. Tear off that bandaid.
More kicking the can accounting. I’m not a fan
I’m down for that.
I definitely think they draft another linebacker. Maybe two.
Agreed.
Just keep in mind that any restructures this year makes it harder to move on next year.

All restructures push money forward. All can be ended at the same time..........it just costs a lot on the cap.
Hence the cut them all, don't bleed slowly, gush it out for one year with 60M in dead money almost assuring you of a very high pick.

Either these players will do it or not (and I don't think they will). But Jerry signed Dak and Zeke and their dead money this year is close to 100M if cut today. That goes down lots next year as they are paying them stupid amounts of money. I don't think Martin is playing up to his contract, and I think he is closer than any of the other big money players.
You cut or trade for draft picks - whatever you can get for Martin, Smith, Collins, Tank, Dak, Coop, Zeke. There is a lot of money cut all at once. It kills the cap. It kills the talent. But you can kill all the debt in one year that way, and change the culture altogether with a Jimmy Johnson type coaching pick.

Then I need a OL, DE, QB and RB. But I have Parsons, Diggs and CD still young, along with some high draft picks and whatever they get this year.

Maybe QB is the issue, but I would draft a QB every 2 years regardless anyway and find a QB development coach and try to use them for extra draft picks, etc.
I know there are just some guys better than others. Romo was udfa. Brady was 6th round. Russell Wilson was 3rd round. ---- QB's can be found and developed. Dallas just needs better QB pickers and developers. And with that high pick from your busted year you get........a young QB picked high.

I still think better coaching with full accountability from GM (not caring about title but job) to coaches to players is the only way Dallas will ever see a Superbowl again.

 

[Stash]

They struggled early, but gave the offense plenty of chances, giving up just 23 points.

I don’t consider 23 points ‘just’.

Saying that isn’t absolving the offense of their share of blame, but the defense wasn’t a strength either. They faced Jimmy Garoppolo and a backup right tackle and still didn’t get the job done.

 

[Stash]

All restructures push money forward. All can be ended at the same time..........it just costs a lot on the cap.

And it makes things worse not better.

Hence the cut them all, don't bleed slowly, gush it out for one year with 60M in dead money almost assuring you of a very high pick.

Either these players will do it or not (and I don't think they will). But Jerry signed Dak and Zeke and their dead money this year is close to 100M if cut today. That goes down lots next year as they are paying them stupid amounts of money. I don't think Martin is playing up to his contract, and I think he is closer than any of the other big money players.

Neither Dak or Zeke is going anywhere this year but as long as you don’t restructure Zeke, you CAN cut him next year.

You cut or trade for draft picks - whatever you can get for Martin, Smith, Collins, Tank, Dak, Coop, Zeke. There is a lot of money cut all at once. It kills the cap. It kills the talent. But you can kill all the debt in one year that way, and change the culture altogether with a Jimmy Johnson type coaching pick.

That’s extreme.

Then I need a OL, DE, QB and RB. But I have Parsons, Diggs and CD still young, along with some high draft picks and whatever they get this year.

Maybe QB is the issue, but I would draft a QB every 2 years regardless anyway and find a QB development coach and try to use them for extra draft picks, etc.
I know there are just some guys better than others. Romo was udfa. Brady was 6th round. Russell Wilson was 3rd round. ---- QB's can be found and developed. Dallas just needs better QB pickers and developers. And with that high pick from your busted year you get........a young QB picked high.

I still think better coaching with full accountability from GM (not caring about title but job) to coaches to players is the only way Dallas will ever see a Superbowl again.

It would be nice if the Joneses held themselves accountable.

 

[Dalmations202]

And it makes things worse not better.

Not sure the difference in not making it 26 years and not seeing it getting any better. And going 28 before it does get better.

Neither Dak or Zeke is going anywhere this year but as long as you don’t restructure Zeke, you CAN cut him next year.

This is why I want to give them one last year. The coaching staff as well. Dak can be cut next year as well, just lots of dead money with his guarantees.

That’s extreme.

Yes its extreme. But Winning the Superbowl is Extreme as well. Jimmy Johnson blew up the Cowboys when he came in, traded off its best players. Benched some greats that were older. Sucked a year, but at least got them headed in the correct direction instead of being in the middle.

It would be nice if the Joneses held themselves accountable.

We can all preach that for it to never happen.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don’t consider 23 points ‘just’.

Saying that isn’t absolving the offense of their share of blame, but the defense wasn’t a strength either. They faced Jimmy Garoppolo and a backup right tackle and still didn’t get the job done.

Defense is close, but offense has some work to do, both schematically and personnel wise. Should be better with some of our younger players with more experience, but still have 3 holes in my opinion: DT, LB and S.

 

[Stash]

Defense is close, but offense has some work to do, both schematically and personnel wise. Should be better with some of our younger players with more experience, but still have 3 holes in my opinion: DT, LB and S.

And a big one that I personally expect to be opening up at DE. But that’s my opinion.

 

[Cowboyny]

And a big one that I personally expect to be opening up at DE. But that’s my opinion.

WE shall find out in another month.

 

[fivetwos]

I'm with you there. I'm not interested in a bunch of 'kicking the can' restructures to keep a team that underachieved together 'at all costs'. They had their chance and they blew it. No need to mortgage the future to keep that together.

Add in what I feel is a lame duck head coach in McCarthy and I'd rather put the team in better position for the next head coach in '23.

I'm with you both.

There's Swiss cheese style holes in the starting 22 and we not only don't have money for free agents, we have to cut a couple and/or restructure.

There's no way to cover it all with one draft, and that what they think they can do for whatever reason.

I just don't get how you spend 3rd round picks on guys like Nashon Wright and think that draft only is gonna get it done.

But they will push all kinds of dead money into the future and not be good enough now, and weaken our chance (blind hope) to be good enough down the road.

Depressing.

 

[cnuball21]

We are on the same page with the top 3 position priorities. Even if both DLaw and Gregory return, the team has to get younger and cheaper at the position as both players will be 30 next season. As for WR, we sense that either Cooper or Gallup will be gone and possible neither are apart of their long term plans. Adding a future starter for 2023 is needed. Quite honestly, if our offense cannot run the football, they won't even be a playoff team, have to fix the run game. Left Guard is a huge hole, as is, finding a better inline blocking TE.

How about this:

We are on the same page with the top 3 position priorities. Even if both DLaw and Gregory return, the team has to get younger and cheaper at the position as both players will be 30 next season. As for WR, we sense that either Cooper or Gallup will be gone and possible neither are apart of their long term plans. Adding a future starter for 2023 is needed. Quite honestly, if our offense cannot run the football, they won't even be a playoff team, have to fix the run game. Left Guard is a huge hole, as is, finding a better inline blocking TE.

How about this:

- Sign a quality G in FA to short deal (no idea who’s available)
- Trade Coop for 1st/2nd rounder (hate it - but could happen)
- Sign ARob in FA for half of Coops salary
- Draft someone like Pickens / Metchie in rounds 2/3
- Draft a OG to develop in rounds 2/3
- Sign a NT
- Draft Karlaftis at 24
- Restructure Tank
- LBr in rounds 2/3
- Watch Cox turn into a stud

 

[Carson]

How about this:


How about this:

- Sign a quality G in FA to short deal (no idea who’s available)
- Trade Coop for 1st/2nd rounder (hate it - but could happen)
- Sign ARob in FA for half of Coops salary
- Draft someone like Pickens / Metchie in rounds 2/3
- Draft a OG to develop in rounds 2/3
- Sign a NT
- Draft Karlaftis at 24
- Restructure Tank
- LBr in rounds 2/3
- Watch Cox turn into a stud

I like the overall plan here. A few uneducated and pointless critiques from me

-Will Hernandez is one of the few guys I hope we sign in FA. Plugs and plays at LG

- Robinson wants to be paid. I fully expect him to get close to what Cooper is making. Isn’t much of a discount. I’d rather take a shot on a guy like DJ Chark on a one year deal

- Pickens (when healthy) is going to be a steal.

- Darian Kinnard and Jamaree Salyer are who I want in round two.

- I think they bring back Watkins for cheap

- Not a fan of Karlaftis. Reminds me of a Tyrone Crawford type. Doesn’t do anything great but is a multiple position guy. Just not an upgrade over Osi or Gallimore

- Really hoping for a guy like Brandon Smith later

 

[Cowboyny]

How about this:


How about this:

- Sign a quality G in FA to short deal (no idea who’s available)-how about James Daniels from Chicago, can add depth at both Center and Guard
- Trade Coop for 1st/2nd rounder (hate it - but could happen)-all reports are that he won't be back, would love a high 2nd if they make that decision.
- Sign ARob in FA for half of Coops salary-think the plan is to keep both Gallup and Wilson.
- Draft someone like Pickens / Metchie in rounds 2/3-cannot rule out taking a WR in any rd
- Draft a OG to develop in rounds 2/3-priority need, have to fix their run game.
- Sign a NT-there are a ton in fa, let's hope it drives the market down and sign a good one. Have my doubts they use a high pick for this role.
- Draft Karlaftis at 24-Another high priority, cannot rule out in any rd.
- Restructure Tank-perfect world, he agrees to a pay cut.
- LBr in rounds 2/3-going to need a veteran starter and draft a future one
- Watch Cox turn into a stud

-think expectations are too high for a player coming off acl and very little experience, actually played limited snaps as a safety last yr, not LB. I wonder if he is an option if Kearse signs elsewhere.

 

[Cowboyny]

I like the overall plan here. A few uneducated and pointless critiques from me

-Will Hernandez is one of the few guys I hope we sign in FA. Plugs and plays at LG-Giant fans will tell you that he was a major bust. If a team like the Giants lets him walk, that should tell you how they think of hm.

- Robinson wants to be paid. I fully expect him to get close to what Cooper is making. Isn’t much of a discount. I’d rather take a shot on a guy like DJ Chark on a one year deal-Team will not have the funds to sign him, Gallup will be their target.

- Pickens (when healthy) is going to be a steal.-I agree.

- Darian Kinnard and Jamaree Salyer are who I want in round two.-Really want a power Guard to help the run game, actually like Penning as a Guard too.

- I think they bring back Watkins for cheap-what we know is they usually sign a low level 1 yr min deal at the position.

- Not a fan of Karlaftis. Reminds me of a Tyrone Crawford type. Doesn’t do anything great but is a multiple position guy. Just not an upgrade over Osi or Gallimore-don't see the team taking a pass rusher that lacks elite length.

- Really hoping for a guy like Brandon Smith later

-he is more of an upside player. Think we can wait to end of day 2, early day 3 to fill the position.

 

[cnuball21]

I like the overall plan here. A few uneducated and pointless critiques from me

-Will Hernandez is one of the few guys I hope we sign in FA. Plugs and plays at LG

- Robinson wants to be paid. I fully expect him to get close to what Cooper is making. Isn’t much of a discount. I’d rather take a shot on a guy like DJ Chark on a one year deal

- Pickens (when healthy) is going to be a steal.

- Darian Kinnard and Jamaree Salyer are who I want in round two.

- I think they bring back Watkins for cheap

- Not a fan of Karlaftis. Reminds me of a Tyrone Crawford type. Doesn’t do anything great but is a multiple position guy. Just not an upgrade over Osi or Gallimore

- Really hoping for a guy like Brandon Smith later

Agree for the most part but Hernandez isn’t better than Williams. He’s bad.

 

[Carson]

Agree for the most part but Hernandez isn’t better than Williams. He’s bad.

I think he can turn it around. He moved to RG last season and stunk. He was solid at LG. He won’t break the bank either and loves Dallas.