So what do they do now about a backup QB

[csirl]

Grier is camp arm quality at best. Dak is poor/declining and unlikely to play a full season and is firmly in the "cant play anymore" category.

People need to get real here. We have a full blown QB crisis. It is our biggest need by a long way. We need to at least draft a QB early and sign a vet backup with starting experience. You cant play NFL football without a QB (any of you remember that game where Denver played with no QB due to covid?).

 

[blueblood70]

Its ok to disagree but you are very wrong lol.
They are looking to fill a roster slot with a cheap player.
They have told us exactly that.
If they hit on another Dak or a Tony Romo, they will rejoice but that isn't the goal.

The cap hit last year for Spencer Rattler was 880K.
The cap hit for Rush would be 5-6M.

I understand your hopium here but it's not at all realistic.
It's a weak QB class and the Cowboys need immediate, day 1 starters with premium picks so won't touch a QB til round 4 or 5.

First of all, Spencer rattler's not here he was on the Saints team so I guess they're cheap as well look man you're barking up the wrong tree yes when you move on from your veterans and you look for younger players they're typically cheaper that's just an added benefit... But they just paid Cooper rush and Trey Lance a combined almost $9 million would be the backup here the last couple of years and it didn't help anything so what's your point they just went through paying them just like they chose not to pay the running back position last year but they overpaid the running back position for eight years prior I mean you just don't seem to get it this is a natural ebb and flow of the league when you make changes at positions especially when you go younger but I'd rather get a couple of stud draft picks in the draft at running back then pay Derek Henry 9 million I would rather do that too as an owner I'd rather have the younger future guy here under a rookie contract that's not being cheap that's trying to get value and be smart...

I'm saying your implying motive is money, it's not it's just happens to happen that way when you get rid of your older veterans and you replace them with younger ones it's a natural order of things they're not doing it 'cause they're cheap they just paid a crap ton of money the last two years to Cooper rush and Trey Lance and now they want to just go younger..

so I'm sorry you're implying it's about money no the end result becomes they're less expensive.. That's it it just happens to be that they're probably gonna be less money but that's not their motive.. And I think it's smart Cooper rush isn't getting us anywhere anymore we've done that whole rodeo for eight years now Trey Lance wasn't the answer and now they're shifting but we don't know they might ended up with another 4 or $5,000,000 veteran by the time the season starts..

It is there's more than one goal you're trying to say that they're not looking for the next Prescott or Romo yeah that is what every team is doing it may take them longer but yes this is the process when you choose to replace players that have been on the team for a very long time you're hoping that the people they choose in their place do turn out to be the next Tony Romo or Prescott yes that is the process but many times it doesn't work out that's why you got to keep doing it and they should do it more often instead of letting these guys linger making more money and they're really not doing much for the team trying to tell me that Cooper rush winning a couple extra games got us a worst draft pick was a bonus no he didn't win enough he wasn't good this is a smart move and you're seeing it as a money move no less money just happens to be a happy benefit it's a positve side effect...

That's like saying all these teams allow their veterans to walk that it's mostly about money no that would be a factor they had to consider to let them go because they're up in age they're typically injury prone and they're making too much money yes they're making too much money but they're just trying to go younger and get better because those players are no longer the future they didn't do it just to save money if that player was playing great you know like debo samuel's people act like he's still 2021 debo he's not they let him go because he was making too much money and no longer producing like 2021 money's always a factor but it's not the main motive you gotta build a roster that fits the salary cap and that means moving on from players who are not producing to the level of their contract or not helping the team..

I mean what good would it be to bring I don't know Aaron Rodgers here and pay him $30 million to sit on the bench to Prescott's backup it would kill the team,, that's what it would do,

so yes money's always a factor but that's not their main motive for getting rid of Cooper rush and Trey Lance is simply, they're moving on, they want to go younger ,they want a new direction, they want to give somebody else a shot... Saving money is simply a happy side effect.

 

[blueblood70]

Grier is camp arm quality at best. Dak is poor/declining and unlikely to play a full season and is firmly in the "cant play anymore" category.

People need to get real here. We have a full blown QB crisis. It is our biggest need by a long way. We need to at least draft a QB early and sign a vet backup with starting experience. You cant play NFL football without a QB (any of you remember that game where Denver played with no QB due to covid?).

You know the irony in that the full blown hypocrisy is there were people two years in a row that said they'd rather have will grier over Cooper rush it's a fact go dig around I'm not doing it for you but they also said they wanted Mike white back this fan base wanted anyone but Cooper Russ for years and now they're making that move and everyone's home to the camp bar what if he's really not that bad if they actually build a better team to where Prescott benefits from it you know better run game better offensive line better secondary target at wide receiver if Prescott goes down the backup's gonna look a whole lot better and have a better chance at winning as well..

I'm not saying you're wrong that he's not a camp arm but please stop this fan base has begged to bring these guys back over and over so you never know he could win the job that's really what it is when somebody say there's a camp body or a camp arm they could actually be in a competition and win the job they might just surprise you there's a lot of those guys on this team right now but that's what training camp really is about it's just not about getting in shape you don't think these guys can get in shape on their own nowadays help Prescott's got his own field in the backyard his own private dietitian and his private trainer they can get in shape just by showing up and starting to practice 2 weeks before the season they don't really need camp but when you bring 90 bodies to camp to get your team ready you're hoping you find out of those thirty extra bodies 10 guys that surprised you and earned a spot on this team that's what it's for those preseason games are for the younger players or the new players who come to camp have a shot at winning a position...

i don't think anybody expected Aubrey, Turpin or butler from the UFL to be much, but guess what they all were way better than expected.thats what this off-season process is for.. tryouts

 

[blueblood70]

Might sound crazy, but this team needs Jameis Winston. Perfect locker room guy to try and bring the dysfunction together.

Just please don’t throw away a 3rd round pick on a mediocre talent like Quinn Ewers.

first of all, the cowboys are not picking a guy in the third round at quarterback, too many holes. but if he's there in the 5th i'd take him. or late move to the bottom of the 4th using a 5th and 6th to move up for sure, worth the risk....no one knew or believed in guys like Brady or Purdy, heck dak in the 4th was no seen as future move but you take one and hope they become that..

they'll probably wait till after the draft and sure if hes there maybe then they'll pick him up or a player like him..

 

[jterrell]

First of all, Spencer rattler's not here he was on the Saints team so I guess they're cheap as well look man you're barking up the wrong tree yes when you move on from your veterans and you look for younger players they're typically cheaper that's just an added benefit... But they just paid Cooper rush and Trey Lance a combined almost $9 million would be the backup here the last couple of years and it didn't help anything so what's your point they just went through paying them just like they chose not to pay the running back position last year but they overpaid the running back position for eight years prior I mean you just don't seem to get it this is a natural ebb and flow of the league when you make changes at positions especially when you go younger but I'd rather get a couple of stud draft picks in the draft at running back then pay Derek Henry 9 million I would rather do that too as an owner I'd rather have the younger future guy here under a rookie contract that's not being cheap that's trying to get value and be smart...

I'm saying your implying motive is money, it's not it's just happens to happen that way when you get rid of your older veterans and you replace them with younger ones it's a natural order of things they're not doing it 'cause they're cheap they just paid a crap ton of money the last two years to Cooper rush and Trey Lance and now they want to just go younger..

so I'm sorry you're implying it's about money no the end result becomes they're less expensive.. That's it it just happens to be that they're probably gonna be less money but that's not their motive.. And I think it's smart Cooper rush isn't getting us anywhere anymore we've done that whole rodeo for eight years now Trey Lance wasn't the answer and now they're shifting but we don't know they might ended up with another 4 or $5,000,000 veteran by the time the season starts..

It is there's more than one goal you're trying to say that they're not looking for the next Prescott or Romo yeah that is what every team is doing it may take them longer but yes this is the process when you choose to replace players that have been on the team for a very long time you're hoping that the people they choose in their place do turn out to be the next Tony Romo or Prescott yes that is the process but many times it doesn't work out that's why you got to keep doing it and they should do it more often instead of letting these guys linger making more money and they're really not doing much for the team trying to tell me that Cooper rush winning a couple extra games got us a worst draft pick was a bonus no he didn't win enough he wasn't good this is a smart move and you're seeing it as a money move no less money just happens to be a happy benefit it's a positve side effect...

That's like saying all these teams allow their veterans to walk that it's mostly about money no that would be a factor they had to consider to let them go because they're up in age they're typically injury prone and they're making too much money yes they're making too much money but they're just trying to go younger and get better because those players are no longer the future they didn't do it just to save money if that player was playing great you know like debo samuel's people act like he's still 2021 debo he's not they let him go because he was making too much money and no longer producing like 2021 money's always a factor but it's not the main motive you gotta build a roster that fits the salary cap and that means moving on from players who are not producing to the level of their contract or not helping the team..

I mean what good would it be to bring I don't know Aaron Rodgers here and pay him $30 million to sit on the bench to Prescott's backup it would kill the team,, that's what it would do,

so yes money's always a factor but that's not their main motive for getting rid of Cooper rush and Trey Lance is simply, they're moving on, they want to go younger ,they want a new direction, they want to give somebody else a shot... Saving money is simply a happy side effect.

 

[jterrell]

First of all, Spencer rattler's not here he was on the Saints team so I guess they're cheap as well look man you're barking up the wrong tree yes when you move on from your veterans and you look for younger players they're typically cheaper that's just an added benefit... But they just paid Cooper rush and Trey Lance a combined almost $9 million would be the backup here the last couple of years and it didn't help anything so what's your point they just went through paying them just like they chose not to pay the running back position last year but they overpaid the running back position for eight years prior I mean you just don't seem to get it this is a natural ebb and flow of the league when you make changes at positions especially when you go younger but I'd rather get a couple of stud draft picks in the draft at running back then pay Derek Henry 9 million I would rather do that too as an owner I'd rather have the younger future guy here under a rookie contract that's not being cheap that's trying to get value and be smart...

I'm saying your implying motive is money, it's not it's just happens to happen that way when you get rid of your older veterans and you replace them with younger ones it's a natural order of things they're not doing it 'cause they're cheap they just paid a crap ton of money the last two years to Cooper rush and Trey Lance and now they want to just go younger..

so I'm sorry you're implying it's about money no the end result becomes they're less expensive.. That's it it just happens to be that they're probably gonna be less money but that's not their motive.. And I think it's smart Cooper rush isn't getting us anywhere anymore we've done that whole rodeo for eight years now Trey Lance wasn't the answer and now they're shifting but we don't know they might ended up with another 4 or $5,000,000 veteran by the time the season starts..

It is there's more than one goal you're trying to say that they're not looking for the next Prescott or Romo yeah that is what every team is doing it may take them longer but yes this is the process when you choose to replace players that have been on the team for a very long time you're hoping that the people they choose in their place do turn out to be the next Tony Romo or Prescott yes that is the process but many times it doesn't work out that's why you got to keep doing it and they should do it more often instead of letting these guys linger making more money and they're really not doing much for the team trying to tell me that Cooper rush winning a couple extra games got us a worst draft pick was a bonus no he didn't win enough he wasn't good this is a smart move and you're seeing it as a money move no less money just happens to be a happy benefit it's a positve side effect...

That's like saying all these teams allow their veterans to walk that it's mostly about money no that would be a factor they had to consider to let them go because they're up in age they're typically injury prone and they're making too much money yes they're making too much money but they're just trying to go younger and get better because those players are no longer the future they didn't do it just to save money if that player was playing great you know like debo samuel's people act like he's still 2021 debo he's not they let him go because he was making too much money and no longer producing like 2021 money's always a factor but it's not the main motive you gotta build a roster that fits the salary cap and that means moving on from players who are not producing to the level of their contract or not helping the team..

I mean what good would it be to bring I don't know Aaron Rodgers here and pay him $30 million to sit on the bench to Prescott's backup it would kill the team,, that's what it would do,

so yes money's always a factor but that's not their main motive for getting rid of Cooper rush and Trey Lance is simply, they're moving on, they want to go younger ,they want a new direction, they want to give somebody else a shot... Saving money is simply a happy side effect.

My man that is a lot of typing to agree with the fact they will be taking a guy very late to be a back up.
As to the money part, Stephen Jones said this out of his mouith not a month ago.
Argue with him.

Executive vice president Stephen Jones said the team thinks highly of Rush, but they "just don’t know what he’s going to cost" and "unfortunately we do have to go cheap" at backup quarterback because of their other commitments.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I have two issues with this philosophy.....

1) Backup QB should be viewed as a pressing need for a starter that has only played one complete season since 2020.
2) A win now team should not be viewing 2nd and especially 3rd round picks as solutions to pressing needs.

If they see value at the QB position on day 2 they shouldn't hesitate to jump all over it.

 

[mardwin]

gotta have a vet and then a developmental guy IMO

Their developmental guys are normally on someone's practice squad. They might as well stick to Trey Lance.

 

[CCBoy]

My man that is a lot of typing to agree with the fact they will be taking a guy very late to be a back up.
As to the money part, Stephen Jones said this out of his mouith not a month ago.
Argue with him.

Executive vice president Stephen Jones said the team thinks highly of Rush, but they "just don’t know what he’s going to cost" and "unfortunately we do have to go cheap" at backup quarterback because of their other commitments.

Now that Cooper Rush is officially on another team, and Trey Lance is likely gone for good too, Quinn Ewers’ name has become a popular talking point.

A lot of pundits are saying the Dallas Cowboys should draft Ewers to back up Dak Prescott and Will Grier next month. Giving him time to be ready to take over in a few years.

A quick scan of some of the mock drafts online also shows the Cowboys taking Ewers from as high as the second round to the fifth.

https://insidethestar.com/why-dallas-should-ignore-pundits-mocks-call-to-draft-quinn-ewers

 

[Chasing6]

Check out the playoff record.

Check out GM Jethro's.

 

[csirl]

You know the irony in that the full blown hypocrisy is there were people two years in a row that said they'd rather have will grier over Cooper rush it's a fact go dig around I'm not doing it for you but they also said they wanted Mike white back this fan base wanted anyone but Cooper Russ for years and now they're making that move and everyone's home to the camp bar what if he's really not that bad if they actually build a better team to where Prescott benefits from it you know better run game better offensive line better secondary target at wide receiver if Prescott goes down the backup's gonna look a whole lot better and have a better chance at winning as well..

I'm not saying you're wrong that he's not a camp arm but please stop this fan base has begged to bring these guys back over and over so you never know he could win the job that's really what it is when somebody say there's a camp body or a camp arm they could actually be in a competition and win the job they might just surprise you there's a lot of those guys on this team right now but that's what training camp really is about it's just not about getting in shape you don't think these guys can get in shape on their own nowadays help Prescott's got his own field in the backyard his own private dietitian and his private trainer they can get in shape just by showing up and starting to practice 2 weeks before the season they don't really need camp but when you bring 90 bodies to camp to get your team ready you're hoping you find out of those thirty extra bodies 10 guys that surprised you and earned a spot on this team that's what it's for those preseason games are for the younger players or the new players who come to camp have a shot at winning a position...

i don't think anybody expected Aubrey, Turpin or butler from the UFL to be much, but guess what they all were way better than expected.thats what this off-season process is for.. tryouts

For the record, Ive never advocated bringing Rush etc back. No matter what people say, both Rush and Grier are not the solution.

I've been advicating for a complete clear out of the QB room for some time. If I was the decision maker I"d be drafting 2 x QBs - 1st rounder and a mid to late rounder - AND signing a vet with starting experience. We need both strength and depth. We also need a new dynamic in the room - one which energises the team.

 

[jterrell]

I have two issues with this philosophy.....

1) Backup QB should be viewed as a pressing need for a starter that has only played one complete season since 2020.
2) A win now team should not be viewing 2nd and especially 3rd round picks as solutions to pressing needs.

If they see value at the QB position on day 2 they shouldn't hesitate to jump all over it.

I think it's very fair to question the strategy, but it is what they are going to do. At least that's what Stephen told us he was going to do.

Realistically this draft is seen as very, very poor at QB and outside the top 6 picks you probably cannot find a guy rated an NFL starter.

The only thing worse than Romo/Dak-like overpaid good but not elite QB is drafting a Quincy Carter type in 2 and pushing him as a starter even though he was really a 5th round guy.

 

[jterrell]

Now that Cooper Rush is officially on another team, and Trey Lance is likely gone for good too, Quinn Ewers’ name has become a popular talking point.

A lot of pundits are saying the Dallas Cowboys should draft Ewers to back up Dak Prescott and Will Grier next month. Giving him time to be ready to take over in a few years.

A quick scan of some of the mock drafts online also shows the Cowboys taking Ewers from as high as the second round to the fifth.

https://insidethestar.com/why-dallas-should-ignore-pundits-mocks-call-to-draft-quinn-ewers

Your statement there implies the answer IMHO.
If Ewers goes off the board in round 1-3 he almost certainly isn't a Cowboy.
If he makes round 4? I bet he is.

 

[cristglo]

With Coper Rush leaving to play for the Ravens
What direction does the Team go in

Dak will be coming back from a 2nd significant injury
We all know that with the question marks we have at left and right tackle he could get injured again
Do they sign a veteran former starter at QB or roll the dice in the draft ?

Jerry’s been working out and he’s in the best shape of his life. Don’t worry we got that back up cover

 

[blueblood70]

IM not watching a video, i'm not influenced by what other people say, i'm saying what i said by my own views..

 

[jterrell]

IM not watching a video, i'm not influenced by what other people say, i'm saying what i said by my own views..

Refusing to educate yourself is exactly why you are posting nonsense.
Stephen stated exactly what they are doing at QB AND WHY.

 

[blueblood70]

For the record, Ive never advocated bringing Rush etc back. No matter what people say, both Rush and Grier are not the solution.

I've been advicating for a complete clear out of the QB room for some time. If I was the decision maker I"d be drafting 2 x QBs - 1st rounder and a mid to late rounder - AND signing a vet with starting experience. We need both strength and depth. We also need a new dynamic in the room - one which energises the team.

yeah, well I'm advocating change, because change is good, there are guys like him all over the NFL.. they can be added anytime. Hes overrated here...I like him but come on.. hes the Jaylon smith of the offense. LOL given credit for what the team happen to do when he was in there.. not losing sleep over him leaving. there's a good reason that he's been on practice squads exposed to teams taking him many times, FA 3 times and no one took him.. nice to have but not ,we keep him is Jerry likes his guys or nepotism, comfort, let players walk its OMG we are doomed lmao..

whenever this team's ready to move on from Prescott if hes hurt best to have a rookie playing or JAG as B/U to lose more games get in the top 5 and get a better replacement. , its been long time coming time to start that process

 

[blueblood70]

Refusing to educate yourself is exactly why you are posting nonsense.
Stephen stated exactly what they are doing at QB AND WHY.

LMao you thinking the media, those vids are educating people with rhetoric and opinion is priceless LMAO

by the way show me the clip where SJ or JJ SAID we're doing this because we're cheap and saving money LOL NO they are going cheaper but not by design, time to change and go in another direction New plan, bi-product it might cost less, totally natural.. CR was crutch and overrated was time to move on..

 

[tomokawan]

Urghhh!! Dart predicted to go top 10 now. Wow, thought we may get him in the second.

 

[DuncanIso]

Grier is camp arm quality at best. Dak is poor/declining and unlikely to play a full season and is firmly in the "cant play anymore" category.

People need to get real here. We have a full blown QB crisis. It is our biggest need by a long way. We need to at least draft a QB early and sign a vet backup with starting experience. You cant play NFL football without a QB (any of you remember that game where Denver played with no QB due to covid?).

Lance wants paid.

Pay him Jerry.