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Screw that. Merriman was all roids and now that he isn't using them he is a broken down player. I would rather have Glenn Dorsey from the Chiefs as a backup NT for Ratliff.
So with Shawne Merriman opposite Ware
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By the throat. -Tilal2obert;3015161 said:How does that grab you?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81364ce6/Around-the-League
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CATCH17;3015576 said:
Per RotoWorld: Signed a five-year, $33 million contract. The deal includes $22.5 million guaranteed. Another $18 million is available through incentives. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $983,500, 2011: $1,582,250, 2012: $2.181 million, 2013: $2.75 million (Option Year), 2014: Free Agent.
Not sure how much was a signing bonus or whatever, but I believe those are paid by the original team.
Something is odd with those numbers though. It says a $33M contract with $18M available though incentives. Aren't those numbers supposed to be included in the overall number counted against the cap just for the fact that he *could* achieve them? $22.5 guaranteed +$18M is far more than $33M.
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I was more interested by the fact that he mentioned that Derrick Johnson could be available than Merriman. Though I obviously have no idea if Johnson can even play in a 3-4.
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Ware will finish the season with 13 to 15 sacks and people will still think that's a "poor" season... Go figure. 
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ThreeSportStar80;3015959 said:Ware will finish the season with 13 to 15 sacks and people will still think that's a "poor" season... Go figure.
If he doesn't want us to think 15 sacks is a poor season, then he needs to stop setting the bar so high! :laugh2:
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The question of Merriman opposite Ware is interesting. I understand that Merriman is not the same player he was when on juice. The question would be, how good would he be if facing a RT as opposed to a LT all the time? How productive could he be against the run as opposed to always rushing the passer. I think it would be interesting. As I recall, Merriman was very productive against the Run at Maryland. Could be interesting.
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If they took Merriman it would need to be cheap and a backseat role, because there is no way you take Spencer out of the lineup right now. Not with him close to breaking through and Merriman floundering.
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Cover 2;3016026 said:
Probably? :laugh2:
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I think Spencer's a good player and has a lot of potential.
Merriman's a little washed up, as everyone else has said. However, I get the feeling his career will be restarted depending if he goes to the right spot. Dallas would definitely qualify as one of those spots. I just don't think he's worth sitting and retarding Spencer
Merriman's a little washed up, as everyone else has said. However, I get the feeling his career will be restarted depending if he goes to the right spot. Dallas would definitely qualify as one of those spots. I just don't think he's worth sitting and retarding Spencer
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I want to see Victor and CuJo get some snaps!!
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10215308/Deadline-trades-remain-a-rarity-in-NFL
The NFL's trade deadline is next Tuesday.
Whee.
Unlike when the cut-off date approaches in other sports leagues, there won't be a flurry of activity over the next six days. No mega-deals are expected even among struggling teams that would welcome a fire-sale.
Most franchises seem content with their rosters currently intact. The NFL's five undefeated teams (Minnesota, New Orleans, Denver, Indianapolis and the New York Giants) don't have any glaring weaknesses that need addressing. Losing squads don't want to sacrifice future draft picks for players who won't make much of a difference for their fortunes in 2009 and may be available in 2010 via free agency or trade. Some spots like left tackle and defensive tackle aren't easily filled because of the premium placed on those positions. Salary cap considerations also temper trade activity.
The Chargers already have Shawne Merriman's replacement in place if they make a deal. (Stephen Dunn / Getty Images)
Still, there's always the chance of another blockbuster deal like when Cleveland sent wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the New York Jets last week. Here's a look at 10 well-known players whose names will surface in trade rumors, the likelihood they will change zip codes and places that could be a good fit.
In other words, a different type of fantasy football than the one fans play on Sundays.
San Diego LB Shawne Merriman
Fantasy: The Chargers land a high draft choice from a team that needs an impact pass-rusher. Tension remains from personality clashes between general manager A.J. Smith and Merriman, who becomes a restricted free-agent in 2010. Smith even used his 2009 first-round pick on projected Merriman replacement Larry English. Merriman would be an intriguing fit in Green Bay, where Aaron Kampman is struggling to make the conversion from defensive end to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme.
Reality: The Chargers can't afford to part ways with Merriman because defense remains this team's greatest shortcoming. Merriman's trade value may be reduced because he still seems gimpy after missing almost all of last season with a knee injury. Merriman deserves a mulligan for 2009 and can be kept for a relatively low price as a restricted free agent in 2010, which is leverage Smith could use to facilitate a more lucrative trade in the offseason. Then again, there are no guarantees that Smith or head coach Norv Turner will be back if the underachieving Chargers (2-2) don't catch AFC West-leading Denver (5-0).
Cleveland QB Brady Quinn
Fantasy: Regardless of who is Washington's head coach in 2010, Commanders owner Dan Snyder rolls the dice and tells general manager Vinny Cerato to trade for Quinn. The move lights a fire under embattled Commanders starter Jason Campbell and gives the franchise hope that Quinn can develop further and become a starter -- something that isn't happening right now in Cleveland.
Reality: Snyder doesn't make the move, especially with head coach Jim Zorn a likely goner in 2010. Understandably, Snyder wouldn't want to saddle the new head coach with a quarterback they aren't necessarily sold on. I don't get the feeling that Mangini is eager to reinsert Quinn with the first-team offense after a rough stretch to open the season. Proof: Derek Anderson remains the starter despite a 2-for-17 passing performance in last Sunday's 6-3 win over Buffalo.
Philadelphia QB Michael Vick
Fantasy: The Eagles get some value for a player who may not be as important in Philadelphia's Super Bowl quest as first envisioned. Vick's first two appearances in Philadelphia's "Spread Eagle" wildcat attack were flops. The emergence of backup quarterback Kevin Kolb behind a now-healthy Donovan McNabb also makes Vick expendable.
Reality: Even though Vick is likely a one-year experiment in Philadelphia, Eagles coach Andy Reid doesn't seem ready to pull the plug on the wildcat quite yet. Vick's trade value also may rise in the offseason as he continues to try to leave his dog-fighting image in the past.
Julius Peppers may be emerging after a slow start. (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images)
Carolina DE Julius Peppers
Fantasy: Bill Belichick completes the trade that was rumored during the offseason. Peppers comes to the Patriots and provides the pass rush New England is sorely lacking.
Reality: With a 1-3 start and their jobs potentially on the line, Panthers coach John Fox and general manager Marty Hurney need all the immediate help they can get. Carolina has to hope the Peppers who showed up last Sunday against Washington (four tackles, two sacks) is the real deal as opposed to the underachiever wearing his jersey through the first three games.
Buffalo WR Terrell Owens
Fantasy: Hoping to get out while the getting is still good, the Bills (1-4) shuffle T.O. out of Buffalo before he implodes at a lack of individual and/or team success. The Bills salvage something for the future from a team willing to surrender a draft choice for Owens despite the off-field baggage he carries.
Reality: For better or worse, the Bills and Owens are married for 2009. Owens is much less likely to leave Buffalo than fellow wideout Roscoe Parrish, whose punt-return gaffe last Sunday set up Cleveland for the game-winning field goal. Parrish would ideally fetch a late-round pick from a team needing a punt returner and potential contributor at slot receiver. Parrish, though, may be un-movable. That's Buffalo's own fault. The Bills signed him to a three-year, $12.3 million contract extension in December 2007 that he hasn't lived up to.
Arizona WR Anquan Boldin
Fantasy: Miami does what it should have done during the offseason and acquires a bona fide receiving threat for an offense that needs one. Boldin comes home to South Florida and receives the big-money contract extension that hasn't been forthcoming from the Cardinals.
Reality: If the Cardinals haven't moved Boldin by now, it's not happening during the 2009 season. With 23 catches through just four games, Boldin is too critical a piece of Arizona's passing game to move at this point.
St. Louis QB Marc Bulger
Fantasy: Despite his struggles the past two-plus seasons, Bulger draws interest from a quality team needing a quickie fix at quarterback. The 32-year-old Bulger has additional appeal because he is still young enough to man the position long-term if able to recapture past glory.
Reality: In another season, Bulger might be a valuable commodity. But starting quarterbacks have remained remarkably healthy in 2009, limiting the market for veterans who need a change of scenery. Fortunately for the ailing Bulger (shoulder), Kyle Boller has sputtered as his replacement. Bulger returns to the starting lineup Sunday at Jacksonville but his days with the Rams are numbered. St. Louis seems destined to target a quarterback early in the 2010 draft.
Oakland RB Justin Fargas
Fantasy impact Feel the need to update your fantasy football team as a result of this? Get the lowdown from FOXSports.com's experts HERE.
Fantasy: The Raiders decide that Fargas is the third wheel in a Darren McFadden-Michael Bush pairing. He is dealt to a team needing running back depth. Houston, which fields the NFL's 30th-ranked ground game, could use Fargas to complement the struggling Steve Slaton.
Reality: As first reported by FOXSports.com NFL insider Jay Glazer, Oakland is testing the trade waters in yet another lost season. Fargas is under contract through 2010 at modest base salaries, which could increase his trade value. However, Oakland owner Al Davis may be hesitant to trade Fargas as McFadden is currently sidelined with a knee injury.
Kansas City LB Derrick Johnson
Fantasy: A 4-3 defense needing linebacker help — hello, Chicago and Buffalo — may want to inquire about Johnson's availability. A Kansas City starter since being drafted in the 2004 first round, Johnson is seemingly on the outs with Chiefs coaches who have installed a 3-4 system.
Reality: The Chiefs (0-5) should be looking for draft picks with any player who doesn't figure into their future plans. Johnson fits the bill.
Tampa Bay QB Byron Leftwich
Fantasy: Now third-string in Tampa Bay, the Bucs salvage a late-round pick for a veteran serving little use on the sideline.
Reality: Leftwich is a safety net in case current starter Josh Johnson struggles and 2009 first-round pick Josh Freeman isn't quite ready for NFL action. Like in the offseason, Leftwich doesn't have much of a market for his services.
The NFL's trade deadline is next Tuesday.
Whee.
Unlike when the cut-off date approaches in other sports leagues, there won't be a flurry of activity over the next six days. No mega-deals are expected even among struggling teams that would welcome a fire-sale.
Most franchises seem content with their rosters currently intact. The NFL's five undefeated teams (Minnesota, New Orleans, Denver, Indianapolis and the New York Giants) don't have any glaring weaknesses that need addressing. Losing squads don't want to sacrifice future draft picks for players who won't make much of a difference for their fortunes in 2009 and may be available in 2010 via free agency or trade. Some spots like left tackle and defensive tackle aren't easily filled because of the premium placed on those positions. Salary cap considerations also temper trade activity.
The Chargers already have Shawne Merriman's replacement in place if they make a deal. (Stephen Dunn / Getty Images)
Still, there's always the chance of another blockbuster deal like when Cleveland sent wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the New York Jets last week. Here's a look at 10 well-known players whose names will surface in trade rumors, the likelihood they will change zip codes and places that could be a good fit.
In other words, a different type of fantasy football than the one fans play on Sundays.
San Diego LB Shawne Merriman
Fantasy: The Chargers land a high draft choice from a team that needs an impact pass-rusher. Tension remains from personality clashes between general manager A.J. Smith and Merriman, who becomes a restricted free-agent in 2010. Smith even used his 2009 first-round pick on projected Merriman replacement Larry English. Merriman would be an intriguing fit in Green Bay, where Aaron Kampman is struggling to make the conversion from defensive end to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme.
Reality: The Chargers can't afford to part ways with Merriman because defense remains this team's greatest shortcoming. Merriman's trade value may be reduced because he still seems gimpy after missing almost all of last season with a knee injury. Merriman deserves a mulligan for 2009 and can be kept for a relatively low price as a restricted free agent in 2010, which is leverage Smith could use to facilitate a more lucrative trade in the offseason. Then again, there are no guarantees that Smith or head coach Norv Turner will be back if the underachieving Chargers (2-2) don't catch AFC West-leading Denver (5-0).
Cleveland QB Brady Quinn
Fantasy: Regardless of who is Washington's head coach in 2010, Commanders owner Dan Snyder rolls the dice and tells general manager Vinny Cerato to trade for Quinn. The move lights a fire under embattled Commanders starter Jason Campbell and gives the franchise hope that Quinn can develop further and become a starter -- something that isn't happening right now in Cleveland.
Reality: Snyder doesn't make the move, especially with head coach Jim Zorn a likely goner in 2010. Understandably, Snyder wouldn't want to saddle the new head coach with a quarterback they aren't necessarily sold on. I don't get the feeling that Mangini is eager to reinsert Quinn with the first-team offense after a rough stretch to open the season. Proof: Derek Anderson remains the starter despite a 2-for-17 passing performance in last Sunday's 6-3 win over Buffalo.
Philadelphia QB Michael Vick
Fantasy: The Eagles get some value for a player who may not be as important in Philadelphia's Super Bowl quest as first envisioned. Vick's first two appearances in Philadelphia's "Spread Eagle" wildcat attack were flops. The emergence of backup quarterback Kevin Kolb behind a now-healthy Donovan McNabb also makes Vick expendable.
Reality: Even though Vick is likely a one-year experiment in Philadelphia, Eagles coach Andy Reid doesn't seem ready to pull the plug on the wildcat quite yet. Vick's trade value also may rise in the offseason as he continues to try to leave his dog-fighting image in the past.
Julius Peppers may be emerging after a slow start. (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images)
Carolina DE Julius Peppers
Fantasy: Bill Belichick completes the trade that was rumored during the offseason. Peppers comes to the Patriots and provides the pass rush New England is sorely lacking.
Reality: With a 1-3 start and their jobs potentially on the line, Panthers coach John Fox and general manager Marty Hurney need all the immediate help they can get. Carolina has to hope the Peppers who showed up last Sunday against Washington (four tackles, two sacks) is the real deal as opposed to the underachiever wearing his jersey through the first three games.
Buffalo WR Terrell Owens
Fantasy: Hoping to get out while the getting is still good, the Bills (1-4) shuffle T.O. out of Buffalo before he implodes at a lack of individual and/or team success. The Bills salvage something for the future from a team willing to surrender a draft choice for Owens despite the off-field baggage he carries.
Reality: For better or worse, the Bills and Owens are married for 2009. Owens is much less likely to leave Buffalo than fellow wideout Roscoe Parrish, whose punt-return gaffe last Sunday set up Cleveland for the game-winning field goal. Parrish would ideally fetch a late-round pick from a team needing a punt returner and potential contributor at slot receiver. Parrish, though, may be un-movable. That's Buffalo's own fault. The Bills signed him to a three-year, $12.3 million contract extension in December 2007 that he hasn't lived up to.
Arizona WR Anquan Boldin
Fantasy: Miami does what it should have done during the offseason and acquires a bona fide receiving threat for an offense that needs one. Boldin comes home to South Florida and receives the big-money contract extension that hasn't been forthcoming from the Cardinals.
Reality: If the Cardinals haven't moved Boldin by now, it's not happening during the 2009 season. With 23 catches through just four games, Boldin is too critical a piece of Arizona's passing game to move at this point.
St. Louis QB Marc Bulger
Fantasy: Despite his struggles the past two-plus seasons, Bulger draws interest from a quality team needing a quickie fix at quarterback. The 32-year-old Bulger has additional appeal because he is still young enough to man the position long-term if able to recapture past glory.
Reality: In another season, Bulger might be a valuable commodity. But starting quarterbacks have remained remarkably healthy in 2009, limiting the market for veterans who need a change of scenery. Fortunately for the ailing Bulger (shoulder), Kyle Boller has sputtered as his replacement. Bulger returns to the starting lineup Sunday at Jacksonville but his days with the Rams are numbered. St. Louis seems destined to target a quarterback early in the 2010 draft.
Oakland RB Justin Fargas
Fantasy impact Feel the need to update your fantasy football team as a result of this? Get the lowdown from FOXSports.com's experts HERE.
Fantasy: The Raiders decide that Fargas is the third wheel in a Darren McFadden-Michael Bush pairing. He is dealt to a team needing running back depth. Houston, which fields the NFL's 30th-ranked ground game, could use Fargas to complement the struggling Steve Slaton.
Reality: As first reported by FOXSports.com NFL insider Jay Glazer, Oakland is testing the trade waters in yet another lost season. Fargas is under contract through 2010 at modest base salaries, which could increase his trade value. However, Oakland owner Al Davis may be hesitant to trade Fargas as McFadden is currently sidelined with a knee injury.
Kansas City LB Derrick Johnson
Fantasy: A 4-3 defense needing linebacker help — hello, Chicago and Buffalo — may want to inquire about Johnson's availability. A Kansas City starter since being drafted in the 2004 first round, Johnson is seemingly on the outs with Chiefs coaches who have installed a 3-4 system.
Reality: The Chiefs (0-5) should be looking for draft picks with any player who doesn't figure into their future plans. Johnson fits the bill.
Tampa Bay QB Byron Leftwich
Fantasy: Now third-string in Tampa Bay, the Bucs salvage a late-round pick for a veteran serving little use on the sideline.
Reality: Leftwich is a safety net in case current starter Josh Johnson struggles and 2009 first-round pick Josh Freeman isn't quite ready for NFL action. Like in the offseason, Leftwich doesn't have much of a market for his services.