Sold on Romo?

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This may sound blasphemous, but Aikman had a similar skill set as Bledsoe. He was pretty slow on foot and had limited mobility. However, he was deadly accurate and had better pocket awareness. That being said, I think he would have struggled terribly with our OL last year.

If we can improve the OL, Romo can be excellent, even if he is a notch below Aikman in overall talent. He struggled the end of the year last year because defenses started running the DEs upfield which prevented him from rolling out. The OL was not strong enough to maintain the pocket, so Romo was forcing balls and making poor decisions. If he has time, the offense will be great.

As always, the success of the team will hinge on line play on both sides of the ball.
 

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firehawk350;1443653 said:
Your contributions to the conversation are just staggering. Anyways, what part about that statement do you disagree with? He got national-level attention and stardom by being a playmaker and taking chances (remember when he fumbled in the endzone and instead of diving on it, passed it to TO [I think] and gained 20-something yards?) but at the same hand, he's given up plays too based on that same ability. So again, instead of pointless comments that are neither funny, nor intelligent, just stick to football and debate the points brought by this thread or my post.
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Zaxor;1443630 said:
Relax folks... Romo pulled wins out of his :moon:a couple of times already that had to show you that the kid can get the job done..he needs playing time to fine tune his game but I think he learned a bunch and though he still has a bunch to learn..I am pretty confident it won't be because of him that we miss the playoffs/superbowl

Please don't let logic enter in to this thread again sir!
 

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firehawk350;1443680 said:
I don't know, he seems to lose a lot of fumbles when he's scrambling.

Maybe he has tiny hands.

I don't view scrambling as taking chances, though. You do what you gotta do to not get sacked. Most of the time that works out well for Tony Romo.
 

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I think Romo has all the physical tools to be a perennial Pro Bowl QB in the NFL. That was evidenced by his winning the QB competition at this year’s Pro Bowl. Romo also has that Namath/Staubach/Montana-like presence that rallies a team. There is a reason why Romo is the only QB T.O. seems to like playing for…..I'm sold on Romo as a QB you can build a team around.

As for Aikman, many of us saw him play at UCLA in college. Many of us bought into the hype of his being drafted by Dallas. Many of us saw how bad his rookie season was, even with flashes of brilliance (that TD pass to James Dixon against Phoenix at the end of the game comes to mind). But many also quickly forget that when Steve Walsh was drafted and won that lone 1989 game at Washington, there was a QB controversy. Many people wanted Aikman traded so Walsh could be the starting QB. Luckily, the Cowboys decided against that and instead traded Walsh to New Orleans. I thought Aikman would be a good QB, but I didn’t think he’d win 3 Super Bowls, let alone 1.
 

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I'm more sold on Romo going into season 2 as a starter than I was with Aikman, for whatever that's worth.

If it's me, I get his long-term deal done now, rather than waiting for next season. Superpunk is right about him starting slow. He also takes chances with the ball when the team gets itself in positions where he needs to make a play. I think that gets solved this year with a more effective 1st/2nd down running game. He's definitely got the smarts, work ethic, and leadership qualities. He can make the throws. Only other question is durability, which has never been a knock on the guy previously.
 

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firehawk350;1443653 said:
Your contributions to the conversation are just staggering. Anyways, what part about that statement do you disagree with? He got national-level attention and stardom by being a playmaker and taking chances (remember when he fumbled in the endzone and instead of diving on it, passed it to TO [I think] and gained 20-something yards?) but at the same hand, he's given up plays too based on that same ability. So again, instead of pointless comments that are neither funny, nor intelligent, just stick to football and debate the points brought by this thread or my post.

Oh, I don't know. The part about people seeing minimal game footage (like a Skins fan perhaps) and then generalizing things and then attributing that as a characterisitic of his game. :rolleyes:

"He got to where he is now because he takes chances."

Damn. I thought he got to where he was by sitting on the bench for three years, watching other QBs play, learning from the coaches, as well as old school QBs such as VT (such as study habits concerning game films), and then finally getting his "chance" (pun intended).

You seem to think with that Redstink logic where "making plays" somehow is equivalent to "taking chances."

Yes, he's taken chances. All great QBs do. That doesn't mean it's a characterisitic of their game. It's like people hearing these catch phrases such as "gun-slinger" and presuming that he's "careless" with the ball, which is absolutely untrue.

Is that good enough for you, oh Mr. wise and great Commander fan who's fellow fans' "realistic" expectations (from my perspective) for their team no matter what they do in the draft, or free agency, somehow translates into competitor or SB contender every year, at least for the past few years?
 

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I'm sold. I think he's got it. It's pretty tough to fluke your way through the NFL. He's also a hardworker and a perfectionist, so that will help him. The biggest thing he needs to work on is taking care of the ball, that is holding it with both hands and not making impulse throws particularly when we're behind. If he can learn how to take care of the football, I think he'll be very successful.
 

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I am 100% confident Romo is going to be a star in this league.

If you all recall Romo didn't take ANY chances in the Playoff game. That game showed me he can control his impulse decisions. Im not worried about the botched snap because it has nothing to do with the QB position, and frankly he wont ever hold again. so im not worried one bit.

In 5 years we will all look back and realize how special Romo is/was
 

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I don't think Romo is going to be a superstar, but I am very confident that he will be a good-to-very good quarterback for quite a while.
 

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amarillodoc;1443690 said:
This may sound blasphemous, but Aikman had a similar skill set as Bledsoe. He was pretty slow on foot and had limited mobility. However, he was deadly accurate and had better pocket awareness. That being said, I think he would have struggled terribly with our OL last year.

If we can improve the OL, Romo can be excellent, even if he is a notch below Aikman in overall talent. He struggled the end of the year last year because defenses started running the DEs upfield which prevented him from rolling out. The OL was not strong enough to maintain the pocket, so Romo was forcing balls and making poor decisions. If he has time, the offense will be great.

As always, the success of the team will hinge on line play on both sides of the ball.

Amarillo, with all due respect, this was a pretty good scouting report on Aikman post 1997, but not at all accurate from 1989-1996. Aikman wasn't slow footed. He wasn't Randall Cunningham, but he wasn't even comparable to Deadlsow.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1443514 said:
I'm not sold either, how can anyone be after just 10 games?

Ummm, apparently you didn't see any of the "J. Jones > Dorsett/Smith" threads that ran rampant here 2 years ago.
 

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It's too early to be sold on Romo (or not). I am not sold, but I am EXTREMELY optimistic based on what I have seen from this guy. Someone alluded to his head being too big or him believing that he has already arrived. I don't agree with this assessment. He is a hard-working, humble, down-to-earth, well-rounded guy. He knows that he has work to do before he is a finished product and he is working to that end. Reportedly, he has been seen often at Valley Ranch throughout the offseason. He gets it. He even seems to be a natural at handling the outside pressure of being "America's Quarterack." With better blocking, Romo won't be forced to make so many hurried decisions; and his ball-handling is something that can be worked on. I can't say he is definitely the answer, but I'm glad he's the guy we're pinning our hopes on. We could do a helluva lot worse.
 

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I'm sold that he's competent and can play in this league, but so could Beuerlein and Garrett, yet neither would have been considered the long-term "answer" had Troy not been around. This year we find out if Tony can sustain his success and actually improve.
 

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SultanOfSix;1443723 said:
Oh, I don't know. The part about people seeing minimal game footage (like a Skins fan perhaps) and then generalizing things and then attributing that as a characterisitic of his game. :rolleyes:

"He got to where he is now because he takes chances."

Damn. I thought he got to where he was by sitting on the bench for three years, watching other QBs play, learning from the coaches, as well as old school QBs such as VT (such as study habits concerning game films), and then finally getting his "chance" (pun intended).

You seem to think with that Redstink logic where "making plays" somehow is equivalent to "taking chances."

Yes, he's taken chances. All great QBs do. That doesn't mean it's a characterisitic of their game. It's like people hearing these catch phrases such as "gun-slinger" and presuming that he's "careless" with the ball, which is absolutely untrue.

Is that good enough for you, oh Mr. wise and great Commander fan who's fellow fans' "realistic" expectations (from my perspective) for their team no matter what they do in the draft, or free agency, somehow translates into competitor or SB contender every year, at least for the past few years?

I didn't say I saw minimal game footage, I watched just about every Boys game this year, but as I don't want to take time to review any of it now, I'm just giving you what I remember from it combined with the stats and other opinions (some here in CZ, some in the media) I read. What do you base your opinions on??? Oh wait, that's right, you gave no sort of basis for your opinion, you just said things and paraded it around like fact.
If you paid enough attention, I didn't say start for the Cowboys', I said in the national media spotlight like he has been. He got to that by his, often described as gusty (by most analysts), play.
All great QBs take chances, huh? Peyton seems to be a big fan of taking what the defense gives him. So does Brady now that I think about it. Definitely the two best QBs of our time, yet somehow you have to take chances to be a great QB? And gun-slinger, in every football reference I've ever heard, is described as gutsy play. If not, what do you define it as??? Don't even say his arm as being overly powerful or the ability to throw bullets (as it were) because Peyton his probably one of the best arms in the league and I've never heard him called a gun-slinger.
As far as the Commanders, who has been saying that we're super bowl bound this year? We are aware there are issues with our team (most of us anyways) but in this weak conference, a marked improvement, provided we are smart and use what we have to our advantage (we do have a talented roster), we can be a winning team. Is that too optimistic for you? Maybe I should suffix it with Romo is the greatest QB in the NFC and always makes good decisions and probably has had both Jessica Simpson and Carrie Underwood... at the same time...
 

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firehawk350;1444072 said:
I didn't say I saw minimal game footage, I watched just about every Boys game this year, but as I don't want to take time to review any of it now, I'm just giving you what I remember from it combined with the stats and other opinions (some here in CZ, some in the media) I read. What do you base your opinions on??? Oh wait, that's right, you gave no sort of basis for your opinion, you just said things and paraded it around like fact.
If you paid enough attention, I didn't say start for the Cowboys', I said in the national media spotlight like he has been. He got to that by his, often described as gusty (by most analysts), play.
All great QBs take chances, huh? Peyton seems to be a big fan of taking what the defense gives him. So does Brady now that I think about it. Definitely the two best QBs of our time, yet somehow you have to take chances to be a great QB? And gun-slinger, in every football reference I've ever heard, is described as gutsy play. If not, what do you define it as??? Don't even say his arm as being overly powerful or the ability to throw bullets (as it were) because Peyton his probably one of the best arms in the league and I've never heard him called a gun-slinger.
As far as the Commanders, who has been saying that we're super bowl bound this year? We are aware there are issues with our team (most of us anyways) but in this weak conference, a marked improvement, provided we are smart and use what we have to our advantage (we do have a talented roster), we can be a winning team. Is that too optimistic for you? Maybe I should suffix it with Romo is the greatest QB in the NFC and always makes good decisions and probably has had both Jessica Simpson and Carrie Underwood... at the same time...

Paragraphs are your friend.

Last time I checked, it was you who was the one going around saying he took chances. That was your assertion, so it's up to you to give evidence for it.

Everything else you said is the land of "The Wizard of Oz", with the strawman leading the pack, while Dorothy has long ago clicked the heels of her shiny red shoes together and went home.
 
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I'd rather have the golden domer based on his potential. Taller, Bigger Arm, and ready to go.

I'd rather have Charlie Tuna's protege four years in , than Romo.
 

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Not only am I sold on Romo......but I also want to have his baby.

Last year was his first taste of real NFL action. He will only get better.

You don't have to be the biggest or the fastest or have the strongest arm. You have to be a leader and you have to not be afraid to make the big play. Romo has both of those qualities in spades.
 

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I think Romo is at a crossroads in his development.... he will either make smarter decisions and take care of the ball or he will take chances with the ball(throwing and not securing it)

He got away with alot last year when things were going good early on... he didnt get away with as much as the year wound down

with that said... I am hopeful... I feel good about him
 

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rcaldw;1443458 said:
I have a question for you.

In 1989 Troy Aikman began his career with the Dallas Cowboys. Though he showed definite promise that year, for many people the jury was still out. In fact, for some people, the jury was out until 1992.

I can honestly say that from the first time I saw the guy play I was sold that he was the real deal and worthy of the 1st overall pick in the draft. I had no way to envision 3 SB championships, but I knew he was a major league QB.

My question is this. Going into the 2007 season, how many people here are absolutely sold that Tony Romo is the real deal? Do you have that completely confident feel that your hope in the guy is going to be rewarded?

I will be the first to go in this discussion and say that I am NOT sold that he is. Any Cowboys fan obviously HOPES that he is, and I am in that category. But I can't honestly say that I have the same level of confidence that he will turn out that I had with Aikman early on.

How about you?

Straight from the land of the weak. You watched Aikman get no pass protection and you just knew he was going to be good. :rolleyes:
 
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