Sold on Romo?

[burmafrd]

We as Boys fans have been pretty badly spoiled for most of our history. Meredith, Staubach, White, Troy. We are USED to top 5 or top 10 talent in the QB position. the last few years in the 80s, and the last few years now were the only times since the beginning that we did not have top or very close to it QB play. Staubach and troy were considered if not right at the best in the NFL very close to it. Meredith and White were considered top 10 QBs. You will not find any franchise of the last 50 years with the consistent talent at QB the Boys had.Dolphins are closest- Griese had a long career and so did Marino- but they had gaps and are still really looking for Marinos replacement now.

 

[ZeroClub]

gee ya think? nobody else would be either

Clearly. Take David Carr. Please.

 

[Colo]

I don't see QB as a weakness for the first time since Troy left.

Great way to put it..

 

[Mash]

Im not quite sold on Romo yet......too early too tell IMHO....he came out and lighted a fire with this team....but as the season drawed to the end....I think Romo regressed ......teams were more prepared for him.

I wouldnt put all my eggs in Romo's basket quite yet.....he still has lots to prove as to being a legit starting Dallas QB.....our expectations are high here.

I still think we need to draft or pick up a potential starting QB......Carr would of been a great pickup seeing how I think he has much better tools than Romo......but we all know Carr wont be comming here.

The thought of Romo struggling and Johnson comming in as our starter....scares me .....rather have drug induced Carter starting

 

[SultanOfSix]

Maybe it's arm strength or not being able to hit wide open receivers in stride or just plain too much bad decision making (Parcells was right about him getting away with a lot of mistakes) but something is just not right.

Huh?

He hit plenty of wide open receivers in stride. Parcells said he got away with a few he probably shouldnt' have thrown (which because of Parcells overall conservative nature can be taken with a grain of salt), and he got careless with the ball sometimes (when scrambling in and out of the pocket), but never said he made "too many bad decisions" as something that was generally applicable.

 

[aikemirv]

I am sold that he is going to be a good QB for us. I am not sold that he is going to be a great QB that can take over the game.

I think he has all the qualities you want in a franchise QB as far as effort, leadership and preparation. I think he just needs to overcome his Farvesque qualities about him as far as carelessness goes.

At the end of the year he was just asked to do too much as the defense let us down IMO I don't think his play was bad.

 

[firehawk350]

This is completely subjective, but my view on it. Romo (counting games he threw more then 10 passes in) had 1 GREAT game (TB), 2 good games (Washington and AZ), 8 games where it was middle of the fence and 3 horrid games (Seattle, 2nd Giants game and NO game). He no doubt started off strong and then tapered away.
Honestly, I think we will learn a lot about Romo in this season. How will he adjust to the new coaching? Being in the same scheme and leadership for 4 years while you learn helps a WHOLE lot I bet. What if Glenn is slowed too far down because of his injury/age? Have other teams caught on to be able to gameplan against him better, or was it because of the Parcells annual december decline?
Or maybe we have seen the real Romo, inconsistent. Will make a great play by improvising followed by a great error because he forced it. That's what I see him being.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Or maybe we have seen the real Romo, inconsistent. Will make a great play by improvising followed by a great error because he forced it. That's what I see him being.

Nah. That's what you want him being.

 

[alancdc]

Huh?

He hit plenty of wide open receivers in stride. Parcells said he got away with a few he probably shouldnt' have thrown (which because of Parcells overall conservative nature can be taken with a grain of salt), and he got careless with the ball sometimes (when scrambling in and out of the pocket), but never said he made "too many bad decisions" as something that was generally applicable.

I agree he hit plenty of WR in stride. Remember TO streaking down the field for a 70 yard TD against the Skins that was right on the money to go up 29-12? How about Whitten in the Giants game for the winning FG in OT, or later in that same Skins game to Whitten for another, should have been GW FG? How about the Falcons game in Atlanta hitting TO right on the money? Remember folks that he didn't get to work with the first team offense on a consistent basis until he was thrown in as a starter.

 

[Zaxor]

Relax folks... Romo pulled wins out of his :moon:a couple of times already that had to show you that the kid can get the job done..he needs playing time to fine tune his game but I think he learned a bunch and though he still has a bunch to learn..I am pretty confident it won't be because of him that we miss the playoffs/superbowl

 

[firehawk350]

Nah. That's what you want him being.

No, I want him to be the end of the season Romo. Realistically though, he got to where he is now because he takes chances. And when you take those chances, you're going to have to pay the price sometimes.

 

[Doomsday101]

No, I want him to be the end of the season Romo. Realistically though, he got to where he is now because he takes chances. And when you take those chances, you're going to have to pay the price sometimes.

True, but I would say a great quality Romo has is the ability to put bad plays behind him and not dwell on it. Some QB's get to the point that they become so afraid of making mistakes they are not willing to stick a ball into tight spots. Romo stepped up in many big situations this past season and lead the team in critical drives. Not too mention how often we were stuck in 3rd and long situations and Romo stepped up and made the plays to keep drives alive. Having ice water in your veins is not a bad trait for a QB. I do agree he is not a finished product and has more work but when the chips are down Romo has shown the mental toughness to overcome.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Realistically though, he got to where he is now because he takes chances. And when you take those chances, you're going to have to pay the price sometimes.

LOL. What version of reality are you talking about?

 

[Angus]

Well well! Romo has come up in the world of Cowboys Zone fans hasn't he? From "couldn't hold Staubach's jock strap" and "could never start for the Dallas Cowboys" to "not yet sold as the long-term answer."

Tony Romo is not yet a complete quarterback because he was held to the sideline for years before getting a chance to shine. And, because he didn't take the team to the Super Bowl by playing two thirds of a season, he is by several considered an inferior first-year quarterback to another first year quarterback who lost every game he played in his first year. Of course, that losing quarterback was not only a first round choice, but the number one pick of the entire draft. Does that have anything to do with the perception?

Nobody needs to be sold on Romo. We better hope Romo is sold on Dallas. He is not under contract after this year and could wave Dallas good-bye. Few people recognized greatness in either Staubach or Aikman at first. There could come a day when Romo is considered better than either of them. It is not now, but it could come.

 

[firehawk350]

LOL. What version of reality are you talking about?

Your contributions to the conversation are just staggering. Anyways, what part about that statement do you disagree with? He got national-level attention and stardom by being a playmaker and taking chances (remember when he fumbled in the endzone and instead of diving on it, passed it to TO [I think] and gained 20-something yards?) but at the same hand, he's given up plays too based on that same ability. So again, instead of pointless comments that are neither funny, nor intelligent, just stick to football and debate the points brought by this thread or my post.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I have a question for you.

In 1989 Troy Aikman began his career with the Dallas Cowboys. Though he showed definite promise that year, for many people the jury was still out. In fact, for some people, the jury was out until 1992.

I can honestly say that from the first time I saw the guy play I was sold that he was the real deal and worthy of the 1st overall pick in the draft. I had no way to envision 3 SB championships, but I knew he was a major league QB.

My question is this. Going into the 2007 season, how many people here are absolutely sold that Tony Romo is the real deal? Do you have that completely confident feel that your hope in the guy is going to be rewarded?

I will be the first to go in this discussion and say that I am NOT sold that he is. Any Cowboys fan obviously HOPES that he is, and I am in that category. But I can't honestly say that I have the same level of confidence that he will turn out that I had with Aikman early on.

How about you?

I was not sold on Aikman when I first saw him play. However, I knew about his record, his accomplishments and prototype skills. So I did not lose sleep over his first year or next. Aikman came in as a can't-miss type of player, all with any knowledge of football knew this.

As for Romo, my crystal ball is foggy, but basing this on his can-do attitude, his mobility and overall skills, I cannot see him failing.

OK, must IMHO.

Must be the offseason.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm pretty much sold, and I was one of the last ones to the party. But I do have some slight concerns about the new coaching staff handling him (sorry Wade) properly. I think Parcells was good for Romo... BP's curb-your-enthusiasm style isn't right for some players, but I think it was right for Romo. And he and Romo seemed to have a kind of bond. He brought up Romo and believed in him, and I think Romo respected that.

My concern is that Romo is turned loose too quickly or doesn't listen to the new coaching staff as attentively as he did Parcells. I get a little feeling from Romo that he already thinks he's arrived, and he hasn't yet. Like Parcells said, he still needs a lot of coaching.

As long as Tony stays grounded and keeps working his hardest, I think he'll be fine. He does have talent and guts. But he better not think he's "it" before he really is.

And on another note, if Firehawk calls that second Giants game a "horrid" one, Tony can have all the horrid games he wants. That pass to Witten at the end of the game under the most extreme pressure was as money as it gets.

 

[superpunk]

Your contributions to the conversation are just staggering. Anyways, what part about that statement do you disagree with? He got national-level attention and stardom by being a playmaker and taking chances (remember when he fumbled in the endzone and instead of diving on it, passed it to TO [I think] and gained 20-something yards?) but at the same hand, he's given up plays too based on that same ability. So again, instead of pointless comments that are neither funny, nor intelligent, just stick to football and debate the points brought by this thread or my post.

Most of his bad plays come early in the game. IMO, it's not that he's burned for taking chances, at least not anymore than any other QB - he was getting burned because he (seemingly) wasn't focused and his throws would come out just looking terrible. Helf the time you weren't thinking "He shouldn't have tried that", you were thinking "Who the hell was he throwing to?"

If he can get more consistent early, he can destroy the league.

 

[firehawk350]

I'm pretty much sold, and I was one of the last ones to the party. But I do have some slight concerns about the new coaching staff handling him (sorry Wade) properly. I think Parcells was good for Romo... BP's curb-your-enthusiasm style isn't right for some players, but I think it was right for Romo. And he and Romo seemed to have a kind of bond. He brought up Romo and believed in him, and I think Romo respected that.

My concern is that Romo is turned loose too quickly or doesn't listen to the new coaching staff as attentively as he did Parcells. I get a little feeling from Romo that he already thinks he's arrived, and he hasn't yet. Like Parcells said, he still needs a lot of coaching.

As long as Tony stays grounded and keeps working his hardest, I think he'll be fine. He does have talent and guts. But he better not think he's "it" before he really is.

And on another note, if Firehawk calls that second Giants game a "horrid" one, Tony can have all the horrid games he wants. That pass to Witten at the end of the game under the most extreme pressure was as money as it gets.

I didn't have a good recollection of that game, so I went on stats mostly. 2 INTs and 1 fumble, 55 passer rating. Sure, he made a great pass at the end, but to not post anything on that ugly Giants secondary, I'm not sold it was anything but a bad game for him.

 

[firehawk350]

Most of his bad plays come early in the game. IMO, it's not that he's burned for taking chances, at least not anymore than any other QB - he was getting burned because he (seemingly) wasn't focused and his throws would come out just looking terrible. Helf the time you weren't thinking "He shouldn't have tried that", you were thinking "Who the hell was he throwing to?"

If he can get more consistent early, he can destroy the league.

I don't know, he seems to lose a lot of fumbles when he's scrambling.