Sold on Romo?

[superpunk]

I think it just goes back to the problem that a lot of fans are overly critical of our own players because a lot see every play.

Romo threw high early in ball games, but once he settle down he was exceptionally accurate.

That's all I'm ever talking about. There really are some passes he throws that you just have no idea what his plan was. Too excited, maybe. And it generally is early.

 

[rcaldw]

My post earlier had nothing to do with MY opinion about Romo or to thump any chest to proclaim that "I was right" about anything. It was about YOU and your current opinion about Romo versus your opinion about Henson. Based on the very constructive discussions I thought we have had in the past, for you to say that "chest thumping" was my motivation was just an undeserved cheap shot.

Anyway...did you see how awful our defense played toward the end of last season? To use the losing streak as an indictment on Romo is ridiculous. Sure, he had his faults and made some mistakes too, but he still completed 60% of his passes and averaged 250 yards a game during the month of December. Did Aikman have that good a statline during any stretch in the '89 season? Without researching the matter, I'll go out on a limb and say no. Yet you still believed Aikman was the guy? Hmmm.

Well, I think when someone is the overall #1 pick in the draft, most would tend to believe in the guy. But it doesn't always turn out that way. Just ask Tim Couch or David Carr. And this is what it's really all about, isn't it? You're not sold on Romo because of "pedigree." It's a direct result of that now infamous scouting report that said Henson would "have been a #1 pick" had he chose football over baseball and because he played at a major university...and Romo went (GASP!!!) undrafted!!! Not only that, he played for a Division II school!

No matter what you say now, we all know you were (still are) totally sold on Henson. You thought Henson only needed the opportunity. You weren't alone either my friend. And he only played in one and a half real games. That's fine. It's your opinion. Romo's played in 10, took his team to the playoffs in spite of a defense that collapsed late, made a Pro Bowl, and you're still not sold. That's cool. Whatever.

Waffle, you can say what I was or wasn't totally sold on all you want. I have no problem telling you or anyone else exactly how I felt, and how I currently feel. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, and I feel no need to always be right.

The fact is, and I will state it again clearly, that I believed then, and believe to this day, that Drew Henson was mishandled by the Parcells team. Period. That is my view.

Now, you and others can judge me out of my mind for that, and that is a-ok with me. I've been wrong many times before, and maybe I'm wrong on that. No biggie. Just being honest with how I feel.

To take that a step further and say I was totally sold on him is just incorrect. I had a GREAT desire to see the guy get to play for an extended period. Argued for it vehemently. Yes, I argued it based upon scouting reports and his potential. What I was arguing through all of that was NOT that he was a "can't miss", but rather that we will never know if we don't give the guy a real chance. Still wish it had happened. It didn't. WE MOVE ON. I MOVE ON. THE COWBOYS HAVE MOVED ON.

I'm pretty sure that Drew Henson will NEVER amount to anything now. I'm quite certain about that. Furthermore, I really don't care. He isn't a Dallas Cowboys player anymore.

I'm looking at our present and our future. I'm aching for a consistent winner in Dallas again. I'm hoping it is Tony Romo.

If it is Tony Romo I won't give a flip whether he has pedigree or not.

In terms of Aikman, I've already explained myself. Good offensive line, poor offensive line, 1-11 in his first 12 starts or 11-1.

Anyone who couldn't see that Troy Aikman had everything necessary to play QB in the NFL was just blind.

As I said, anyone who can say now that they saw 3 SB wins was a lot smarter than me. I didn't see that. But I was firmly convinced that he was going to be a major league QB.

I don't think that makes me particularly bright. Alot of people had him as the #1 overall pick in 1989. There was a reason for that.

The Tim Couch's and David Carr's of the world are just the attempts of other teams and gm's to find THEIR Aikman, or Elway. It rarely works out. Those guys are once in a decade guys.

 

[daynje]

I am sold on Romo!

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it just goes back to the problem that a lot of fans are overly critical of our own players because a lot see every play.

Romo threw high early in ball games, but once he settle down he was exceptionally accurate.

I think given the poor protection up front Romo did a heck of a job. The line did not get better once Bledsoe sat down it became less of an issue because Romo has better movement but the pressure was still coming. Hopefully with better protection up front Romo will have more of a pocket to work from instead of having to create on the move.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

A member at the Ranch Forum, choppinbrocolli, submitted this post based on his ear witness account...He is a respected poster over there and an attorney.

Some would say these are diametrically opposed.

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[Waffle]

Waffle, you can say what I was or wasn't totally sold on all you want. I have no problem telling you or anyone else exactly how I felt, and how I currently feel. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, and I feel no need to always be right.

The fact is, and I will state it again clearly, that I believed then, and believe to this day, that Drew Henson was mishandled by the Parcells team. Period. That is my view.

Now, you and others can judge me out of my mind for that, and that is a-ok with me. I've been wrong many times before, and maybe I'm wrong on that. No biggie. Just being honest with how I feel.

To take that a step further and say I was totally sold on him is just incorrect. I had a GREAT desire to see the guy get to play for an extended period. Still wish it had happened. It didn't. WE MOVE ON. I MOVE ON. THE COWBOYS HAVE MOVED ON.

I'm pretty sure that Drew Henson will NEVER amount to anything now. I'm quite certain about that. Furthermore, I really don't care. He isn't a Dallas Cowboys player anymore.

I'm looking at our present and our future. I'm aching for a consistent winner in Dallas again. I'm hoping it is Tony Romo.

If it is Tony Romo I won't give a flip whether he has pedigree or not.

In terms of Aikman, I've already explained myself. Good offensive line, poor offensive line, 1-11 in his first 12 starts or 11-1.

Anyone who couldn't see that Troy Aikman had everything necessary to play QB in the NFL was just blind.

As I said, anyone who can say now that they saw 3 SB wins was a lot smarter than me. I didn't see that. But I was firmly convinced that he was going to be a major league QB.

I don't think that makes me particularly bright. Alot of people had him as the #1 overall pick in 1989. There was a reason for that.

The Tim Couch's and David Carr's of the world are just the attempts of other teams and gm's to find THEIR Aikman, or Elway. It rarely works out. Those guys are once in a decade guys.

I'm only bringing up Henson to show the inconsistency in your evaulations, not to beat you up over the ex-Cowboy. I promise.

You see a guy (Henson) play in Pre-Season and 1.5 games, yet you proclaimed to me several times in the past that you believed "he was the future" and Parcells was just too stubborn to start him. You thought he would take his lumps like Aikman, work through them, and then we'd have our guy? Right?

Now fast forward to today and you see an undrafted guy start ten games, lead his team to the playoffs, make unbelievable throws, sidestep pressure, and complete over 60% of his passes, and yet you're still not sold.

Had you been skeptical of Henson, then I'd let you off the hook on Romo.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I am very sold. So what it wasn't a 16 games, he showed in 10 games that he is a leader. Hes a competitor, and he always seems to put us in a position to win games. He makes plays outside the pocket, he inspires the team, and he revived an average Cowboy team last year - into being a legit threat for the NFC.

The only QBs in this league I'd take over him are Brady, Manning, and Palmer. Hes that good.

 

[rcaldw]

I'm only bringing up Henson to show the inconsistancy in your evaulations, not to beat you up over the ex-Cowboy. I promise.

You see a guy (Henson) play in Pre-Season and 1.5 games, yet you proclaimed to me several times in the past that you believed "he was the future" and Parcells was just too stubborn to start him. You thought he would take his lumps like Aikman, work through them, and then we'd have our guy? Right?

Now fast forward to today and you see an undrafted guy start ten games, lead his team to the playoffs, make unbelievable throws, sidestep pressure, and complete over 60% of his passes, and yet you're still not sold.

Had you been skeptical of Henson, then I'd let you off the hook on Romo.

What I think you are missing, WHETHER I'M RIGHT OR WRONG, (and I could be wrong), is HOW I EVALUATE THESE GUYS.

The reason I liked Henson was, size, strength, athleticism, big arm (although I have to admit that as time went on, his arm didn't look at strong at the end as it did in the beginning), and what seemed to me a calm demeanor, PLUS, he played at a big time program and did well.

None of this GUARANTEED he would pan out, but I was very hopeful.

Now, fast forward to Romo. I've already said what I like. Quick decision making. Quick release. He has to have some kind of leadership ability because his teammates seem to love him. GOOD, though from my vantage point, somewhat mixed, early results.

What troubles me? Arm strength, decision making.

But Waff, I am completely aware that arm strength is not the only test of QB greatness.

Joe Montana did not have a rocket for an arm, and he turned out pretty darn good.

So, I'll say it again. I'm HOPEFUL when it comes to Romo, but I would be LYING if I said I'm totally sold right now. I'm just not.

Let him do well this year, and I will be wearing a Tony Romo jersey

 

[WoodysGirl]

A member at the Ranch Forum, choppinbrocolli, submitted this post based on his ear witness account...He is a respected poster over there and an attorney.

I saw that yesterday and posted it in the Daily Zone. 'Preciated his effort.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84875

 

[cowboyed]

Some would say these are diametrically opposed.

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I knew it was a conflict of typing as soon as I started posting.

 

[cowboyed]

I saw that yesterday and posted it in the Daily Zone. 'Preciated his effort.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84875

Good to know where you embedd that information.