Some pre camp thoughts

[darthseinfeld]

- With a suspension of Turpin possible, Mingo could have more opportunities than expected. With Turpin available, Mingo is more of a niche or depth player. If Turpin has to sit games, Mingo will likely see get consistent snaps in 10 personel. Turpin had 315 offensive snaps last season

- I think Cooper Beebe's growth is the from having a potentially very good interior OL to a potentially dominate interior OL. Beebe's performance last year was about league average for Centers, which for a rookie is very strong (PFF actually graded higher than Graham Barton). Even with the big addition of Booker, I think the big difference between very good to dominant is the difference between Beebe maintaining league average play and Beebe becoming a Pro Bowl caliber Center

- For better or worse, I believe you will see alot of Marshawn Kneeland this year. He is the only edge defender on our roster right now with plus run defender potential. Our FA additions Turner and Thomas are awful run defenders. Ezeiruaku doesn't really have the build to be a run defender. Sam Williams is from the Robert Quinn School of Defensive End'ing. I believe this will put Kneeland on the field a significant amount

- If Jaydon Blue holds on to the ball, he is our featured back. Offseason puff peices aside, Williams and Sanders are not good running backs. I wouldn't rule out neither being on the 54.

- I think Liufau is our hope at LB. He showed promise as a rookie, is a film junkie, and could really benefit from Eberflus coaching. I also really hope James has a great camp and preseason because I dont want to see Kenneth Murray on the field.

-The FA pool is still pretty deep at CB. I just hope of they call someone, its not Gilmore. Kendall Fuller would be my choice. He has played both slot and boundry extensively, although he has played boundary the most the past few years. Hilton would be my choice if the want a pure slot

 

[big dog cowboy]

- With a suspension of Turpin possible

Good write up!

I was having a conversation just yesterday about a possible Turpin suspension and if it happened how would that impact the return game. It might be how Duece keeps a roster spot during any possible suspension.

 

[blueblood70]

- With a suspension of Turpin possible, Mingo could have more opportunities than expected. With Turpin available, Mingo is more of a niche or depth player. If Turpin has to sit games, Mingo will likely see get consistent snaps in 10 personel. Turpin had 315 offensive snaps last season

- I think Cooper Beebe's growth is the from having a potentially very good interior OL to a potentially dominate interior OL. Beebe's performance last year was about league average for Centers, which for a rookie is very strong (PFF actually graded higher than Graham Barton). Even with the big addition of Booker, I think the big difference between very good to dominant is the difference between Beebe maintaining league average play and Beebe becoming a Pro Bowl caliber Center

- For better or worse, I believe you will see alot of Marshawn Kneeland this year. He is the only edge defender on our roster right now with plus run defender potential. Our FA additions Turner and Thomas are awful run defenders. Ezeiruaku doesn't really have the build to be a run defender. Sam Williams is from the Robert Quinn School of Defensive End'ing. I believe this will put Kneeland on the field a significant amount

- If Jaydon Blue holds on to the ball, he is our featured back. Offseason puff peices aside, Williams and Sanders are not good running backs. I wouldn't rule out neither being on the 54.

- I think Liufau is our hope at LB. He showed promise as a rookie, is a film junkie, and could really benefit from Eberflus coaching. I also really hope James has a great camp and preseason because I dont want to see Kenneth Murray on the field.

-The FA pool is still pretty deep at CB. I just hope of they call someone, its not Gilmore. Kendall Fuller would be my choice. He has played both slot and boundry extensively, although he has played boundary the most the past few years. Hilton would be my choice if the want a pure slot

I don't think Turpin is going to be suspended why would he Most of these infractions especially if it's your first time he'll get fined and put on some kind of excessive testing for marijuana like he'll be tested more than most because they're not really testing for it but because he did this he'll be on some kind of list...

Let's just use our own sam Williams got pulled over for something similar but also had a reckless driving charge and he was suspended for the alleged gambling thing already once and he only got three games....

I think once his lawyer gets to this Turpin will end up having some of these charges lowered and it won't be that big a deal and he won't get suspended and if and if so it's one game and by the way that's not opening up for Mingo you guys are just way trying to oversell this because you're hoping Jerry didn't waste the 4th round pick they might need to keep Deuce Vaughn if this happens but if it's one game you're trying to tell me one game we had to worry about the return game and our 4th wide receiver no Tolbert would take over those snaps because they're his anyway I mean you're overselling Turpin as a wide receiver for a few games at most..

What we really need to worry about who's going to be the returner? That would be something you could dig into the only person I know that could offer up the same type of weapon as a returner right now on our team is Vaughn....

But I think you're posting in the negative you're assuming all the negativity that you stated up there about our run stoppers on the edge about our veteran running backs this is all hyperbole and yes corner probably the only thing I agree with on there..

I mean literally this is all from your negative viewpoint because I don't agree with most of that almost none of it I think Murray is going to be better than you think at linebacker and I don't have time to sit here and breakdown your whole post but I disagree with most of it....

 

[blueblood70]

- With a suspension of Turpin possible, Mingo could have more opportunities than expected. With Turpin available, Mingo is more of a niche or depth player. If Turpin has to sit games, Mingo will likely see get consistent snaps in 10 personel. Turpin had 315 offensive snaps last season

- I think Cooper Beebe's growth is the from having a potentially very good interior OL to a potentially dominate interior OL. Beebe's performance last year was about league average for Centers, which for a rookie is very strong (PFF actually graded higher than Graham Barton). Even with the big addition of Booker, I think the big difference between very good to dominant is the difference between Beebe maintaining league average play and Beebe becoming a Pro Bowl caliber Center

- For better or worse, I believe you will see alot of Marshawn Kneeland this year. He is the only edge defender on our roster right now with plus run defender potential. Our FA additions Turner and Thomas are awful run defenders. Ezeiruaku doesn't really have the build to be a run defender. Sam Williams is from the Robert Quinn School of Defensive End'ing. I believe this will put Kneeland on the field a significant amount

- If Jaydon Blue holds on to the ball, he is our featured back. Offseason puff peices aside, Williams and Sanders are not good running backs. I wouldn't rule out neither being on the 54.

- I think Liufau is our hope at LB. He showed promise as a rookie, is a film junkie, and could really benefit from Eberflus coaching. I also really hope James has a great camp and preseason because I dont want to see Kenneth Murray on the field.

-The FA pool is still pretty deep at CB. I just hope of they call someone, its not Gilmore. Kendall Fuller would be my choice. He has played both slot and boundry extensively, although he has played boundary the most the past few years. Hilton would be my choice if the want a pure slot

This is why we have training camp and preseason games and lots of close practices a lot of what you're saying about a lot of these guys negatively is not true and the suspension I'm not that worried about it's probably one game at most if any and I already responded that in my other post but I just want to tell you I think that you're way slanted towards the negative and that's OK because again that is what pre-season in camp is all about but I think you're pretty much Underselling a lot of this I don't have time to get into it but that's about it...

 

[fivetwos]

- With a suspension of Turpin possible, Mingo could have more opportunities than expected. With Turpin available, Mingo is more of a niche or depth player. If Turpin has to sit games, Mingo will likely see get consistent snaps in 10 personel. Turpin had 315 offensive snaps last season

- I think Cooper Beebe's growth is the from having a potentially very good interior OL to a potentially dominate interior OL. Beebe's performance last year was about league average for Centers, which for a rookie is very strong (PFF actually graded higher than Graham Barton). Even with the big addition of Booker, I think the big difference between very good to dominant is the difference between Beebe maintaining league average play and Beebe becoming a Pro Bowl caliber Center

- For better or worse, I believe you will see alot of Marshawn Kneeland this year. He is the only edge defender on our roster right now with plus run defender potential. Our FA additions Turner and Thomas are awful run defenders. Ezeiruaku doesn't really have the build to be a run defender. Sam Williams is from the Robert Quinn School of Defensive End'ing. I believe this will put Kneeland on the field a significant amount

- If Jaydon Blue holds on to the ball, he is our featured back. Offseason puff peices aside, Williams and Sanders are not good running backs. I wouldn't rule out neither being on the 54.

- I think Liufau is our hope at LB. He showed promise as a rookie, is a film junkie, and could really benefit from Eberflus coaching. I also really hope James has a great camp and preseason because I dont want to see Kenneth Murray on the field.

-The FA pool is still pretty deep at CB. I just hope of they call someone, its not Gilmore. Kendall Fuller would be my choice. He has played both slot and boundry extensively, although he has played boundary the most the past few years. Hilton would be my choice if the want a pure slot

Good stuff. Thanks.

I think Blue will be out best back eventually, but all I’ve seen, heard and read suggests that he more of a change of pace type rather than a lead dog. Gotta hope that Williams has regained some physical ability, and if the OL is doing their thing, they should be able to get by. A team that claims to want to run the ball more should not have put them in this situation, but….look who runs things.

Can’t run the ball, and can’t stop the run. Yeah…that’ll add up Jerry. The ignorance is stunning at times.

How long do you think Turpin is gone for? I’d guess two games. If the charges go away, it should be zero, but that’s not how it works in Rogerville.

 

[blueblood70]

Good write up!

I was having a conversation just yesterday about a possible Turpin suspension and if it happened how would that impact the return game. It might be how Duece keeps a roster spot during any possible suspension.

I don't think he's going to be suspended that long one to three games Max I mean Sam Williams got three games but it was his 2nd run in with Roger Goodell It was very similar but no reckless driving charge so I doubt it's gonna be anything but one game at most if anything is gonna be find big and put on some kind of list for marijuana testing just as a slap on the wrist And yes you're right I also agree Vaughn may end up making the roster if that's the case I don't know anybody else that can redo the return game I don't think the Impact is gonna be a loss from the wide receiver room for one to three games that we have Tobert people keep dismissing Tobert Pickens and Lamb and I know Turpin can help and they make and they maybe had bigger plans for him as a wide receiver this year but that's not where the loss is it would be in the return game..

And whatever it is you know his lawyer can drag it out for a year the suspension may not even happen this year because they always wait until after it's been settled in the courts so they know exactly what he's been convicted of.. Before they hand down suspensions given this didn't involve violence or anything else not a real crime and it has to be worked out with lawyers and courts but I just don't see him being suspended for more than one game at most if any....

 

[jterrell]

various:
Turpin: He is probably not going to be suspended this year. The NFL doesn't work that quickly and there is no depth to these charges to force action.

Kneeland: He is not going to play more than Sam or Micah if both are healthy. He might not even hold off the rookie. If he can be a true 2-way guy, then that will help him get snaps. But his run defense and tackling scores were abysmal last year. Sam Williams scored significantly higher as a run defender and overall player in 2022 and 2023.

OL: That is just a really bad take. The Cowboys interior OL will be very good but the difference between passable and good to even great is at OT. Period. If the tackles are a top 10 combo, then the OL is top 10. The Line will go as the tackles do. Cooper Beebe is my favorite OL though!

Blue: Dallas is going to get Blue snaps. He is a roster lock but it unlikely he is a feature guy as a rookie. If he is that is actually a terrible sign for the running back room.

CB: Dallas should add at least 1 JAG veteran but I can see why they might wait so that guy isn't hurt in camp. Let young guys play now then add a vet right as camp breaks.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Here are mine:
Too late to fix the DT room unless the team does something drastic.
Not having Osho and Diggs already has this team behind the 8 ball on D.
Milton better practice hard, he will very likely see the field at some point.
I expect Javonte Williams to come out of the gate pretty good. Starting game 2. Eagles game not so much.

 

[darthseinfeld]

various:
Turpin: He is probably not going to be suspended this year. The NFL doesn't work that quickly and there is no depth to these charges to force action.

Kneeland: He is not going to play more than Sam or Micah if both are healthy. He might not even hold off the rookie. If he can be a true 2-way guy, then that will help him get snaps. But his run defense and tackling scores were abysmal last year. Sam Williams scored significantly higher as a run defender and overall player in 2022 and 2023.

OL: That is just a really bad take. The Cowboys interior OL will be very good but the difference between passable and good to even great is at OT. Period. If the tackles are a top 10 combo, then the OL is top 10. The Line will go as the tackles do. Cooper Beebe is my favorite OL though!

Blue: Dallas is going to get Blue snaps. He is a roster lock but it unlikely he is a feature guy as a rookie. If he is that is actually a terrible sign for the running back room.

CB: Dallas should add at least 1 JAG veteran but I can see why they might wait so that guy isn't hurt in camp. Let young guys play now then add a vet right as camp breaks.

The OL take was interior specific

 

[darthseinfeld]

various:
Turpin: He is probably not going to be suspended this year. The NFL doesn't work that quickly and there is no depth to these charges to force action.

Kneeland: He is not going to play more than Sam or Micah if both are healthy. He might not even hold off the rookie. If he can be a true 2-way guy, then that will help him get snaps. But his run defense and tackling scores were abysmal last year. Sam Williams scored significantly higher as a run defender and overall player in 2022 and 2023.

OL: That is just a really bad take. The Cowboys interior OL will be very good but the difference between passable and good to even great is at OT. Period. If the tackles are a top 10 combo, then the OL is top 10. The Line will go as the tackles do. Cooper Beebe is my favorite OL though!

Blue: Dallas is going to get Blue snaps. He is a roster lock but it unlikely he is a feature guy as a rookie. If he is that is actually a terrible sign for the running back room.

CB: Dallas should add at least 1 JAG veteran but I can see why they might wait so that guy isn't hurt in camp. Let young guys play now then add a vet right as camp breaks.

The running back room is terrible. Thats why Blue is your featured back of he can hold onto the ball

 

[jterrell]

The running back room is terrible. Thats why Blue is your featured back of he can hold onto the ball

I tend to agree with you on the room being terrible, but I do not think they will risk shortening Blue's career to make him a feature back in year 1.

 

[jterrell]

The OL take was interior specific

that makes a lot more sense!
I think the interior OL will be very good regardless.
They are all good players.
they'd be helped by a quality RB that could run up the middle.

 

[fivetwos]

Here are mine:
Too late to fix the DT room unless the team does something drastic.
Not having Osho and Diggs already has this team behind the 8 ball on D.
Milton better practice hard, he will very likely see the field at some point.
I expect Javonte Williams to come out of the gate pretty good. Starting game 2. Eagles game not so much.

If the media ever decided to do their job and put Jerry to the test over the DT room, the answer would most certainly include Osa’s contract and the use of a first on Mazi. Problem is, we already know that’s not enough.

Funny how fans who supposedly know nothing can easily see this and the people who run the team cannot.

 

[Einstein]

Good write up!

I was having a conversation just yesterday about a possible Turpin suspension and if it happened how would that impact the return game. It might be how Duece keeps a roster spot during any possible suspension.

This was my first thought when I started reading the initial post... Duece is the replacement for Turpin. WR reps will go to Tolbert.

 

[goshann]

I don't think Turpin is going to be suspended why would he Most of these infractions especially if it's your first time he'll get fined and put on some kind of excessive testing for marijuana like he'll be tested more than most because they're not really testing for it but because he did this he'll be on some kind of list...

Let's just use our own sam Williams got pulled over for something similar but also had a reckless driving charge and he was suspended for the alleged gambling thing already once and he only got three games....

I think once his lawyer gets to this Turpin will end up having some of these charges lowered and it won't be that big a deal and he won't get suspended and if and if so it's one game and by the way that's not opening up for Mingo you guys are just way trying to oversell this because you're hoping Jerry didn't waste the 4th round pick they might need to keep Deuce Vaughn if this happens but if it's one game you're trying to tell me one game we had to worry about the return game and our 4th wide receiver no Tolbert would take over those snaps because they're his anyway I mean you're overselling Turpin as a wide receiver for a few games at most..

What we really need to worry about who's going to be the returner? That would be something you could dig into the only person I know that could offer up the same type of weapon as a returner right now on our team is Vaughn....

But I think you're posting in the negative you're assuming all the negativity that you stated up there about our run stoppers on the edge about our veteran running backs this is all hyperbole and yes corner probably the only thing I agree with on there..

I mean literally this is all from your negative viewpoint because I don't agree with most of that almost none of it I think Murray is going to be better than you think at linebacker and I don't have time to sit here and breakdown your whole post but I disagree with most of it....

Agree
He isn’t getting suspended for that

 

[jazzcat22]

Don't be so sure Turpin won't get suspended.
Why?

1 - He is on Dallas
2 - He will be suspended twice as long as normal, because he is on Dallas.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

- I think Liufau is our hope at LB. He showed promise as a rookie, is a film junkie, and could really benefit from Eberflus coaching. I also really hope James has a great camp and preseason because I dont want to see Kenneth Murray on the field.

Don't sleep on Sanborn

 

[darthseinfeld]

Don't sleep on Sanborn

Sanborn is what he is. An adequate reserve LB. Bears didn't even tender him

 

[conner01]

Good write up!

I was having a conversation just yesterday about a possible Turpin suspension and if it happened how would that impact the return game. It might be how Duece keeps a roster spot during any possible suspension.

Didn’t they have Blue doing some returns in mini? Has blue ever done returns? That’s a way he could make an impact if he can do it

 

[JoeKing]

I don't believe Turpin will suffer a suspension and if he does it will be just one game. His name isn't Ezekiel, so the league isn't overreacting with a six-game slap down.

As for TC, I'm looking for players to step up and show out. Surprise me! Our new additions are my focus, especially the veterans... Pickens and Milton.