Some Wade Phillips Stats For Your Info

[Hostile]

there is only one stat that matters to me with this guy at this point. And that involves the postseason. I think his happy family time approach took the edge away and we saw the effects of that last year.

My apologies. I was not trying to come across as all positive about the future.

The Super Bowl is in Miami this year. We are 0-3 in Super Bowls in Miami. We're doomed.

I hope I have redeemed my good name.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I do see something pretty consistent for him in his career...he seems to be pretty darn good in November. Now if only the playoffs and Superbowl were played that month...

I actually dont hate him the way a lot of people do. Dallas sucked late in the season long before he got here, even under the great Parcells, so at some point you have to start to wonder why it is the players can't get the job done, no matter what type of coach it is they have.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I do see something pretty consistent for him in his career...he seems to be pretty darn good in November. Now if only the playoffs and Superbowl were played that month...

I actually dont hate him the way a lot of people do. Dallas sucked late in the season long before he got here, even under the great Parcells, so at some point you have to start to wonder why it is the players can't get the job done, no matter what type of coach it is they have.

those are some good thoughts,

true, the cowboys players had a tough coach in parcells and they griped
soft coach in wade, now their begging for discipline

which goes back to what i have been saying all along;

the players have to have a head coach that is tough on them like jimmy johnson was, but that head coach has to have control to fine players, heavy when needed, cut or trade players like jimmy johnson did

i think its common know that no player wants to work hard, you have to show him to become the great player he can be, he has to work

and you have to stay on top of them,

while at the same time, the players must either fear the head coach or respect him, i dont think the dallas cowboys players fear or respect wade either way, therein is the problem

now some of that lays at jerry jones door for not letting wade fine players heavy when he wanted too or letting wade get the offensive coordinator he wanted in jim zorn or getting dan reeves this year

and the players for not taking responsibility

with bottom line, you cant have your players running around in shorts the first 25 days of training camp with no hitting, or letting players get a day off after they blow a game like they did in the arizona game

 

[cowboyjoe]

thats why i think the cowboys need to trade or release one more player like greg ellis or flozell adams, to finish sending the statement to the players,

you had better get on board, show some heart, intensity or you will be cut or traded or released.

 

[theebs]

My apologies. I was not trying to come across as all positive about the future.

The Super Bowl is in Miami this year. We are 0-3 in Super Bowls in Miami. We're doomed.

I hope I have redeemed my good name.

lol

sorry my post was just a long winded way of saying our head coach is a coordinator and in all his years of football he has never been able to get over the hump, If it were a five year career I wouldnt care, but considering it is a very long one well, that is the only thing holding me back from being optimistic.

demarcus ware just said some very encouraging things though on with laufenberg.

 

[jterrell]

Everyone knows I am not Wade Phillips' biggest fan. I call him Tommy Boy occasionally. However, I can give credit where it is due. I have recently been breaking down a lot of information. I actually find this to be interesting.


Here's the good...

• 2-0 on Thanksgiving. Raiders on Thanksgiving this year.
• 1-0 on Non Thanksgiving Thursday games.
• 2-0 on Monday Night Football. Panthers on MNF this year.
• 6-0 on Sunday Night Football. Giants, Eagles, & Commanders on SNF this year.
• 2-0 after a bye week.
• 2-0 against teams coming off their bye week. Seattle after their bye this year.
• 2-0 on Opening Day games. Buccaneers on Opening Day this year.
• 2-0 in Home Openers. Giants in home Opener this year.

He is 7-1 in September and 8-1 in November.


Here's the so-so...

• 1-1 on Saturdays. Saints on Saturday this year.

He is 4-3 in October.


Here's the bad...

• 0-2 in season finales. Eagles in the season finale this year.
• 0-1 in Overtime games.
• 0-1 in the Post Season.

He is 3-5 in December.


Here is the Unknown...

• We have a regular season January game this year.

You know I was thinking of this stuff with regards ot the Cowboys not just Phillips the other day.

Norm was whining on the Ticket how big an advantage the Cowboys get by having Turkey Day plus the short week game at home. He was touting as if some big league error. Then 2 minutes later bemoaning how Dallas fairs in late season games, especially on the road, especially in cold weather climes.

In the end my conclusion was this. Dallas does have a bit of an early season and mid-season advantage in that being in the NFCE they are by far the most comfortable team in the warm weather. And they have less of a road challenge than most teams early because the weather is still nice and there are Cowboys fans galore at every stadium save perhaps Scumbucket Sanctuary in Philly.

All that said the December winter blues hit hard. Dallas is at a huge disadvantage playing in cold weather cities in frigid climes.

So all in all ir probably evens out... or at least until 2009. Now we have a stadium with a climate-controlled roof. Will Jerry open it up for 95 degree days? I seriously doubt it because he wants to sell those seats as the lap of luxury even if it is a kindergarten desk sized seat to cram into.

So mark me as concerned here.

 

[theebs]

Can we also blame the players for their lack of execution/lack of talent as well?

We saw the Parcells regime come and go without a playoff victory.

Wade's "we are family" approach aint working either.

these players have every excuse in the book. 1st parcells was to tough on them not they miss that toughness since wade is such a big softy.

absolutley. Parcells only had the talent phillips has in one year and it was for half a season, and i would say that staff did enough to win that game in seattle, but I do agree the players are to blame more than the coaches without question.

and rampage, I agree with what you said also. I was throwing the phil simms quote around in 07 when we hired wade and julius, spears etc were all whining....the quote from simms was.."when you think you need a softer coach you probably need tougher players" and I still believe every bit of that.

its just that this thread was about wades numbers and wade is the one hangup I have with this team right now, I like everything about it but the head coach. He makes good in game adjustments and he is a very good defensive coach, its just that he has never been a good head coach and that is what he is here. So for me that is troubling.

 

[Rampage]

absolutley. Parcells only had the talent phillips has in one year and it was for half a season, and i would say that staff did enough to win that game in seattle, but I do agree the players are to blame more than the coaches without question.

and rampage, I agree with what you said also. I was throwing the phil simms quote around in 07 when we hired wade and julius, spears etc were all whining....the quote from simms was.."when you think you need a softer coach you probably need tougher players" and I still believe every bit of that.

its just that this thread was about wades numbers and wade is the one hangup I have with this team right now, I like everything about it but the head coach. He makes good in game adjustments and he is a very good defensive coach, its just that he has never been a good head coach and that is what he is here. So for me that is troubling.

I think the players thought that but now I feel like they miss the tough parcells approach. I agree with you on the Wade thing but i'm gonna throw Garrett in there as well. once again the offensive players share the blame but his playcalling needs to improve big time from last season.

 

[Dawgs0916]

now some of that lays at jerry jones door for not letting wade fine players heavy when he wanted too or letting wade get the offensive coordinator he wanted in jim zorn or getting dan reeves this year

was this widely publicized? its the first I have heard of it...

 

[Hostile]

lol

sorry my post was just a long winded way of saying our head coach is a coordinator and in all his years of football he has never been able to get over the hump, If it were a five year career I wouldnt care, but considering it is a very long one well, that is the only thing holding me back from being optimistic.

demarcus ware just said some very encouraging things though on with laufenberg.

You know I was just being a wiseacre.

I hope.

 

[jobberone]

You people can believe anything you want. But keep in mind the offense has failed this team for a decade plus. Wade is really not in charge of the offense. Perhaps we missed Sparano more than most people thought. Perhaps injuries is all it was. Or both.

If Dallas does not resurrect last years' offense we will be in a fight every week.

 

[Rampage]

You people can believe anything you want. But keep in mind the offense has failed this team for a decade plus. Wade is really not in charge of the offense. Perhaps we missed Sparano more than most people thought. Perhaps injuries is all it was. Or both.

If Dallas does not resurrect last years' offense we will be in a fight every week.

did you forget the last 2 games of the season?

 

[rojan]

absolutley. Parcells only had the talent phillips has in one year and it was for half a season, and i would say that staff did enough to win that game in seattle, but I do agree the players are to blame more than the coaches without question.

and rampage, I agree with what you said also. I was throwing the phil simms quote around in 07 when we hired wade and julius, spears etc were all whining....the quote from simms was.."when you think you need a softer coach you probably need tougher players" and I still believe every bit of that.

its just that this thread was about wades numbers and wade is the one hangup I have with this team right now, I like everything about it but the head coach. He makes good in game adjustments and he is a very good defensive coach, its just that he has never been a good head coach and that is what he is here. So for me that is troubling.

That was perfectly said..I love the Players we have but sometimes I wish they would shut up and play the game with some urgency and heart....

I can tell after the 1st couple of series if they came to play or not and more often than not they do not bring it when it counts...

 

[theebs]

You know I was just being a wiseacre.

I hope.

Yeah I did.

 

[rcaldw]

So 7-5 in December in Buffalo? And two out of three years he was 3-1?

Not quite the disaster some would expect.

Every year he was above .500 in December he was 0-1 in the playoffs. That kind of offsets it for me.

Super Bowl is the goal and if you can't get in to the playoffs, or you keep getting knocked out in the first round, you won't get there.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not overly interested what Wade has done or not done in the past only interested in what we achieve this season

 

[Apollo Creed]

But we got like a billion sacks last year though..

Wade better not start 0-2, thats all I'm gonna say. 0-3 he's gone, bet.

 

[DFWJC]

like you too Hostile, im not a wade phillips fan either, but i do think when he works on it, he is a very good defensive coordinator, in fact one of the best.

just not sure about him as a head coach in the late run.

This has always been my feeling regarding Wade. He looks kind of dumb sometimes, but he knows more football than this whole baord combined (okay I exaggerate a bit, but you get the point).

I have not ruled him out at all. 13-3 trumps anything we've seen in more than a decade, but last year was a step back. They were worse than 13-3 and better than 9-7...if they can pull 10-6 or better and get a playoff win (or three!) then we will be going in the right direction.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Another stat

Wade Phillips fails.

 

[cowboyjoe]

was this widely publicized? its the first I have heard of it...

yes it was publiced;