Something about Romo to ponder...

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Bleu Star;2543998 said:
I would hope so too. Romo is a major investment. As his GM, Owner, Coach, whatever, I would definitely be receptive to his thoughts. I just hope he cares enough to voice those opinions. I'm sure he does but some of the things he says to the press make me wonder. A man can only take getting pounded for so long before he just mails it in and I would not like to see Romo regress into a David Carr type that becomes so shellshocked from the pounding that he loses sight of the fundamentals like keeping your eyes focused on your read progression downfield. The moment you take your eyes off of the downfield reads a disaster is in the making.

I do think the guy care I think he puts in the work and time I say that based on what those around Valley Ranch have said about Romo. Like you I hope he has a voice within the organization to give input of what he is seeing and where he feels he needs help.
 

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Doomsday101;2543997 said:
Then evidently you have not read all the post on this thread. Again if you don't like what I said well I'm sorry but I feel no need to check in with you to see if it is alright that I post my opinion. You have no problem posting yours opinion. If you want to discuss anything I mention fine if you want to tell what to post sorry not going to happen.

Yes I did.

Nobody is putting the blame all on Tony Romo in this thread.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2544015 said:
Yes I did.

Nobody is putting the blame all on Tony Romo in this thread.

"My bad holemy, just responding to the post. But again if Romo ****'ed up, let him have it he's a grown *** man, he's the quarterback of America's team. T.O. didnt drop that ball on the feild goal in the Seahawk's game, i didnt hear anyone complaining (to much) about T.O. last year when the team went 13-3 and had a first round by in the playoff's. But i guess T.O. is to blame for Romo's poor play in those games as well. Give US a break!"

I take that as a dump on Romo but then I did not see you posting about how this poster is hijacking the thread. Seems right now you are the one hijacking the thread talking about what I said instead of the issue.
 

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Doomsday101;2544018 said:
"My bad holemy, just responding to the post. But again if Romo ****'ed up, let him have it he's a grown *** man, he's the quarterback of America's team. T.O. didnt drop that ball on the feild goal in the Seahawk's game, i didnt hear anyone complaining (to much) about T.O. last year when the team went 13-3 and had a first round by in the playoff's. But i guess T.O. is to blame for Romo's poor play in those games as well. Give US a break!"

I take that as a dump on Romo but then I did not see you posting about how this poster is hijacking the thread. Seems right now you are the one hijacking the thread talking about what I said instead of the issue.

I missed that post.

He is idiot.

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Maikeru-sama;2544035 said:
I missed that post.

He is idiot.

:toast2:

No problem. My reaction was to post like that in this thread and simular ones in others.
 

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ANTHONYSCOTT;2543881 said:
My bad holemy, just responding to the post. But again if Romo ****'ed up, let him have it he's a grown *** man, he's the quarterback of America's team. T.O. didnt drop that ball on the feild goal in the Seahawk's game, i didnt hear anyone complaining (to much) about T.O. last year when the team went 13-3 and had a first round by in the playoff's. But i guess T.O. is to blame for Romo's poor play in those games as well. Give US a break!


:rolleyes:

I'm an admitted TO superfan but even I can see that there is enough blame to go around.... TO, Romo, Oline, Both Wades, Red... You name it.
 

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Romo's problem is mental now.

Why Garrett and Wade switched T.O. from the X to the Z in midseason to try and get Roy Williams involved or to try and get T.O. open I will never know. You take the kids best WR and now move him so in affect he's now only got to get comfortable with T.O. in a new role, but he also has to try and get Roy some passes so he feels like he's part of the offense too.

Then you have an offensive line, TE's and RB's included, playing like garbage in pass protection.

Then the kid has multiple injuires he's dealing with from week to week.

Then you factor in the fumbles he has every week because he's running for his life as soon as he gets the snap, and who even knows if the snap will come when he's expecting it, while trying to keep his eyes downfield to throw a pass to all these super dee duperty weapons we have on offense.

Then he has to sit at home and watch interviews done by his star WR about how the offense he is running stinks and then how he and his BF on the team are in cahoots on some silly plan to make up plays.

Then you factor in the reality that his coordinator is struggling with play calling.

Then you factor in his WR's sometimes can't get off the LOS in press coverage and that they run poor routes on occasion.

Then people wonder why the kid comes into December and his brain is mush.

Romo isn't Tom Brady and he isn't Peyton Manning.

He's only been the starter for two full seasons.

He has stunk on ice at times. Just like this defense stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his WR's stunk on ice sometimes by dropping passes. Just like his offensive line has stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his special teams units have stunk on ice all season. Just like his head coach stinks on ice about motivation and running this team.

It's a disaster all the way around.

And he's the QB so yeah he gets the blame. He needs to play better and so does the rest of this underachieving bunch of millionaires.
 

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dcfanatic;2544082 said:
Romo's problem is mental now.

Why Garrett and Wade switched T.O. from the X to the Z in midseason to try and get Roy Williams involved or to try and get T.O. open I will never know.
I thought Wade said at the PC that they did it to get TO more involved. In fact, I'm sure he did.

And Jerry even said the main reason they got Roy was to free up TO on the other side.

Once again, another move to pacify a certain player -- and a WR at that.

Pure stupidity.

Back to Romo... He's probably always going to throw more INTs than we'd like, but he'll offset that somewhat with his big plays. But he HAS to protect the ball better so he doesn't fumble when he gets sacked.

I still think we need to become a running team first. That alone would cut down on the turnovers and also keep Romo from getting hit so often.
 

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dcfanatic;2544082 said:
Romo's problem is mental now.

Why Garrett and Wade switched T.O. from the X to the Z in midseason to try and get Roy Williams involved or to try and get T.O. open I will never know. You take the kids best WR and now move him so in affect he's now only got to get comfortable with T.O. in a new role, but he also has to try and get Roy some passes so he feels like he's part of the offense too.

Then you have an offensive line, TE's and RB's included, playing like garbage in pass protection.

Then the kid has multiple injuires he's dealing with from week to week.

Then you factor in the fumbles he has every week because he's running for his life as soon as he gets the snap, and who even knows if the snap will come when he's expecting it, while trying to keep his eyes downfield to throw a pass to all these super dee duperty weapons we have on offense.

Then he has to sit at home and watch interviews done by his star WR about how the offense he is running stinks and then how he and his BF on the team are in cahoots on some silly plan to make up plays.

Then you factor in the reality that his coordinator is struggling with play calling.

Then you factor in his WR's sometimes can't get off the LOS in press coverage and that they run poor routes on occasion.

Then people wonder why the kid comes into December and his brain is mush.

Romo isn't Tom Brady and he isn't Peyton Manning.

He's only been the starter for two full seasons.

He has stunk on ice at times. Just like this defense stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his WR's stunk on ice sometimes by dropping passes. Just like his offensive line has stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his special teams units have stunk on ice all season. Just like his head coach stinks on ice about motivation and running this team.

It's a disaster all the way around.

And he's the QB so yeah he gets the blame. He needs to play better and so does the rest of this underachieving bunch of millionaires.

I believe this is the first post from you that didn't make me want to hurl... j/k man. Excellent points.
 

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Shinywalrus;2543843 said:
Beware of small sample size. There has to be an underlying cause if you think there's an association - things can be correlated, but that doesn't imply causation.

My current suspicion is that the unifying theme in late-season underperformance has been breakdowns in the efficiency, stamina and durability of the offensive line, and associated breakdowns in the performance of that unit specifically. You wonder how much that has to do with the strength and conditioning coaches, or Houck, or the players themselves.

But when I look at the disasters and how they compared with the rest of the season, that's the only thing that really sticks out in my mind as having been substantially different.

Be honest with yourselves, and remember back to the Arizona (08) and Buffalo (07) games...Romo's dropsies and interception-happiness are not confined to December by any stretch of the imagination.

This is an excellent post. We all make way too much out of Romo's numbers post November but take a better look at the offensive line and our recievers. The OL is not protecting Romo at all and the recievers cant get open even in one on one situations. Believe me Peyton Manning could not perform well in our offense in December either.

Marcellus Wiley pointed the finger at Joe Jurasek a couplple of weeks ago since he is the one common denominator from 1997 until now. I think he nailed it. We looked slow against the Ravens ands slow and tired against Philly. I hope Jerry Jones takes a good hard look at our strength and conditioning program.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2544090 said:
I thought Wade said at the PC that they did it to get TO more involved. In fact, I'm sure he did.

And Jerry even said the main reason they got Roy was to free up TO on the other side.

Once again, another move to pacify a certain player -- and a WR at that.

Pure stupidity.

Back to Romo... He's probably always going to throw more INTs than we'd like, but he'll offset that somewhat with his big plays. But he HAS to protect the ball better so he doesn't fumble when he gets sacked.

I still think we need to become a running team first. That alone would cut down on the turnovers and also keep Romo from getting hit so often.


All agendas aside, I think we can all agree that Red, Wade, and Wade have definitely come up extremely short this season... That said, Romo needs to work on some things and hopefully he gets with his WRs in the offseason to work this out. I sincerely hope the next time he sees his WRs isn't TC.
 

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The fumbles are concerning because the majority of the time they're on plays like Sunday where he's rolling out of the pocket, and waiting and waiting and waiting for guys to come open in an attempt to make a big play, out of a busted play.

By next season the coaches have really got to get him to realise that in those situations he either needs to just throw the ball away or take off and get the 4-8 yards he can running, slide, and live to play another down.

I love Tony because he's competitive and he honestly wants to make a play all the time but he's got to learn, and I believe he will, that there isn't always a play to be made on every down. Sometimes you've simply got to throw it away, or run and slide after you've gotten all the yards you can, and live to play the next play.
 

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dcfanatic;2544082 said:
Romo's problem is mental now.

Why Garrett and Wade switched T.O. from the X to the Z in midseason to try and get Roy Williams involved or to try and get T.O. open I will never know. You take the kids best WR and now move him so in affect he's now only got to get comfortable with T.O. in a new role, but he also has to try and get Roy some passes so he feels like he's part of the offense too.

Then you have an offensive line, TE's and RB's included, playing like garbage in pass protection.

Then the kid has multiple injuires he's dealing with from week to week.

Then you factor in the fumbles he has every week because he's running for his life as soon as he gets the snap, and who even knows if the snap will come when he's expecting it, while trying to keep his eyes downfield to throw a pass to all these super dee duperty weapons we have on offense.

Then he has to sit at home and watch interviews done by his star WR about how the offense he is running stinks and then how he and his BF on the team are in cahoots on some silly plan to make up plays.

Then you factor in the reality that his coordinator is struggling with play calling.

Then you factor in his WR's sometimes can't get off the LOS in press coverage and that they run poor routes on occasion.

Then people wonder why the kid comes into December and his brain is mush.

Romo isn't Tom Brady and he isn't Peyton Manning.

He's only been the starter for two full seasons.

He has stunk on ice at times. Just like this defense stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his WR's stunk on ice sometimes by dropping passes. Just like his offensive line has stunk on ice sometimes. Just like his special teams units have stunk on ice all season. Just like his head coach stinks on ice about motivation and running this team.

It's a disaster all the way around.

And he's the QB so yeah he gets the blame. He needs to play better and so does the rest of this underachieving bunch of millionaires.

Very well said. All great points.
 

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Rampage;2543844 said:
he's not as good as everybody thinks. hopefully he will improve. but it doesn't help having that jerk of a wr in your ear after every pass that wasn't thrown to him.


He isnt now... he has regressed. All that Brady nonsense. Sometimes you have to play the way you play and thats it. Improve a few things here and there and thats it.

IMO Romo's biggest mistake was not running when the run was there to be had. This led to defenses attacking a QB that was impersonating a pure pocket passer which he isnt.


If Romo had only improved on one thing - making better decisions... we would be in playoffs right now.
 
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