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[pansophy]

You pretty much summed up my other post earlier in the thread...


Right here....

Uphill battle for Dak replacing the godlike Romo. Who did Romo replace? Drew Bledslug... Romo's first two years starting should have been a walk in the park and all the criticism he received was warranted.

Dak's first two years.... Year 1. The haters looked but couldn't speak because he did unreal things. Year 2? The haters made up for being muted in year 1.

Most unfair criticism in his first two years? Dak by a mile.

Lame.

I'm one of the biggest Romo fans here and for the life of me I can't understand why we are talking about Romo. Dak didn't replace Romo because he was a better QB than Romo but because Romo has missed 36 games from injury and many of them in the last 2 years. We had a shot to skip the years between Romo and finding a viable QB and we took it. It's not any more complicated than that. I personally would have liked to see Romo come back because we had a good team I didn't think a rookie could carry us through the playoffs -- we probably didn't have the defense in the end regardless. I can understand the decision to transition to a young guy having a career year his rookie season.

In any case none of this is relevant to assessing Dak. He was and is not a finished product and the coaches know that. They didn't let him take a 7-step drop without play action until week 14 of season 1 because his footwork wasn't where it needed to be. That says it all. I'll just keep saying it but if we see Dak attack the sidelines 10-20 yards down the field this year we are going to be really happy at the QB position for a long time. If he doesn't have the footwork or arm or accuracy or whatever to be able to do that then defenses are going to continue to clog the middle of the field like they did last year and the offense is always going to struggle for consistency. That's what defenses did differently from year 1 to year 2 and explains why Dak didn't have the anywhere close to the same kind of year.

Dak has 2 years to show he can do it. I personally wouldn't want to pay franchise money for a guy that can't make all the throws inside of 20 yards. So we will just have to see how it plays out.

 

[HungryLion]

Dude...I saw it live....in person...from about 100 yards away...It was the worst panick move in what was essentially a playoff game. He choked when it mattered most. Told me everything I needed to see about him. The guy is a bust.... and won't amount to more than Quincy Carter 2.0. And IMO...It's just a matter of time before he looks like this....

You can't tell me that video of him in the club w/ a blunt....is something you build a franchise around. Sorry..not buying it.

Didn’t Romo throw the game sealing INT on a similar play against the Commanders during a “win and in”
Game for the division title?

Not bashing Romo. But c’mon.

 

[DFWJC]

I'm one of the biggest Romo fans here and for the life of me I can't understand why we are talking about Romo. Dak didn't replace Romo because he was a better QB than Romo but because Romo has missed 36 games from injury and many of them in the last 2 years. We had a shot to skip the years between Romo and finding a viable QB and we took it. It's not any more complicated than that. I personally would have liked to see Romo come back because we had a good team I didn't think a rookie could carry us through the playoffs -- we probably didn't have the defense in the end regardless. I can understand the decision to transition to a young guy having a career year his rookie season.

In any case none of this is relevant to assessing Dak. He was and is not a finished product and the coaches know that. They didn't let him take a 7-step drop without play action until week 14 of season 1 because his footwork wasn't where it needed to be. That says it all. I'll just keep saying it but if we see Dak attack the sidelines 10-20 yards down the field this year we are going to be really happy at the QB position for a long time. If he doesn't have the footwork or arm or accuracy or whatever to be able to do that then defenses are going to continue to clog the middle of the field like they did last year and the offense is always going to struggle for consistency. That's what defenses did differently from year 1 to year 2 and explains why Dak didn't have the anywhere close to the same kind of year.

Dak has 2 years to show he can do it. I personally wouldn't want to pay franchise money for a guy that can't make all the throws inside of 20 yards. So we will just have to see how it plays out.

I never could understand why some seem to make it an either/or thing with Romo and Dak.

No reason at all we can't appreciate one's past and move forward and pull for the other's future.

 

[cowboyblue22]

I liked tony when he played he in the end was just simply not good enough at critical times I like dak as a player but I just don't think he is more than a average qb at best so the team and coaching around him will have tobe really good for him to ever make a deep playoff run

 

[DogFace]

Dude...I saw it live....in person...from about 100 yards away...It was the worst panick move in what was essentially a playoff game. He choked when it mattered most. Told me everything I needed to see about him. The guy is a bust.... and won't amount to more than Quincy Carter 2.0. And IMO...It's just a matter of time before he looks like this....

You can't tell me that video of him in the club w/ a blunt....is something you build a franchise around. Sorry..not buying it.

Again, you said Kellen Moore was good. Pretty sure you went on and on and on...about how good he was going to be. So forgive me if I don’t respect your evaluation process.

That process, based on the two videos, is flawed. He overthrew Zeke on one. The other Dez bobbled and it hit his hands. Clearly.

So instead of telling me how he was panicked and that you can tell because of whatever. Tell me how that pass was not slightly over Zekes head and Dez dropped the other. I’m not sure what you’re seeing. Explain it please.

If this is some misplaced anger about Moore not getting a chance you need to let it go. He was not good. He never would be good and his job status is proof.

Please don’t tell me your predications. Just explain how those plays were so bad.

 

[DogFace]

Didn’t Romo throw the game sealing INT on a similar play against the Commanders during a “win and in”
Game for the division title?

Not bashing Romo. But c’mon.

He’s comparing to Kellen Moore. Not Romo.

True story.

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm one of the biggest Romo fans here and for the life of me I can't understand why we are talking about Romo. Dak didn't replace Romo because he was a better QB than Romo but because Romo has missed 36 games from injury and many of them in the last 2 years. We had a shot to skip the years between Romo and finding a viable QB and we took it. It's not any more complicated than that. I personally would have liked to see Romo come back because we had a good team I didn't think a rookie could carry us through the playoffs -- we probably didn't have the defense in the end regardless. I can understand the decision to transition to a young guy having a career year his rookie season.

In any case none of this is relevant to assessing Dak. He was and is not a finished product and the coaches know that. They didn't let him take a 7-step drop without play action until week 14 of season 1 because his footwork wasn't where it needed to be. That says it all. I'll just keep saying it but if we see Dak attack the sidelines 10-20 yards down the field this year we are going to be really happy at the QB position for a long time. If he doesn't have the footwork or arm or accuracy or whatever to be able to do that then defenses are going to continue to clog the middle of the field like they did last year and the offense is always going to struggle for consistency. That's what defenses did differently from year 1 to year 2 and explains why Dak didn't have the anywhere close to the same kind of year.

Dak has 2 years to show he can do it. I personally wouldn't want to pay franchise money for a guy that can't make all the throws inside of 20 yards. So we will just have to see how it plays out.

This isn't about who Dak is. We all know he's a young QB only going into his 3rd year. This is about the unfair criticism received in primarily his second year (because the peanut gallery couldn't touch his unreal 1st year).

It had to hurt them to have to sit mute during Dak's 1st year while clutching their Tony Romo security blankets.

 

[Bleu Star]

I never could understand why some seem to make it an either/or thing with Romo and Dak.

No reason at all we can't appreciate one's past and move forward and pull for the other's future.

Tell that to the peanut gallery. Tell them it's ok to release the death grip on those Tony Romo security blankets. Then and only then will they possibly open their eyes and allow Dak to grow.

 

[SoupcanSam]

Tell that to the peanut gallery. Tell them it's ok to release the death grip on those Tony Romo security blankets. Then and only then will they possibly open their eyes and allow Dak to grow.

The funny thing is Romo is what our fans have accepted as successful and a hometown hero after 20 plus years of nothing, and Romo still not providing much but half decent stats, crappy playoff record and zilch SB's.

It's pathetic that our fan base have zero idea of what success really is anymore. You would have thought Romo was getting a statue near the stadium or something.

 

[Bleu Star]

The funny thing is Romo is what our fans have accepted as successful and a hometown hero after 20 plus years of nothing, and Romo still not providing much but half decent stats, crappy playoff record and zilch SB's.

It's pathetic that our fan base have zero idea of what success really is anymore. You would have thought Romo was getting a statue near the stadium or something.

 

[HungryLion]

He’s comparing to Kellen Moore. Not Romo.

True story.

Lol. Floaty gonna float.

He was the same way on the scout boards too.

 

[pansophy]

This isn't about who Dak is. We all know he's a young QB only going into his 3rd year. This is about the unfair criticism received in primarily his second year (because the peanut gallery couldn't touch his unreal 1st year).

It had to hurt them to have to sit mute during Dak's 1st year while clutching their Tony Romo security blankets.

There is nothing unfair about stating that Dak is not yet a top 10 QB despite whatever his rookie stats might suggest, as after all he is a young QB only going into his 3rd year.

Also if that's the bar no Cowboy QB has gotten 'fair' treatment since Aikman's super bowl years, including Aikman himself who was getting booed at end of his career.

 

[Bleu Star]

There is nothing unfair about stating that Dak is not yet a top 10 QB despite whatever his rookie stats might suggest, as after all he is a young QB only going into his 3rd year.

Also if that's the bar no Cowboy QB has gotten 'fair' treatment since Aikman's super bowl years, including Aikman himself who was getting booed at end of his career.

Unless you've slept through the past year, you know plenty more than that has been said about Dak. I won't go into it because I believe both you and I know it's not necessary to do so.

 

[Billyd]

Romonians? THAT is a cheapshot. I PREFER to keep reminding you that the hot hand cost us a chance to compete for a sb. IF that bothers u, then mission accomplished!!

 

[Billyd]

As far as Dak goes ive been defending him slowly but surely. I think he recovers well, shows the base and the league, that 2017 was for other things, but his part has been delt with.. DAK is all about, watching the tape, fixing the problems and moving on!

 

[pansophy]

Unless you've slept through the past year, you know plenty more than that has been said about Dak. I won't go into it because I believe both you and I know it's not necessary to do so.

Sure, but unfair implies that Dak is getting some kind of special mistreatment and I would argue that all QBs in Dallas get that treatment. I would also argue that his 'mistreatment' is worse on the heals of people trying to argue how great he is when he is not even close to a finished product let alone 'great'.

I'm glad we have him. He brings a lot to the table, and its not going to work long term if simply clogging the middle of the field utterly stymies the passing game.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

The funny thing is Romo is what our fans have accepted as successful and a hometown hero after 20 plus years of nothing, and Romo still not providing much but half decent stats, crappy playoff record and zilch SB's.

It's pathetic that our fan base have zero idea of what success really is anymore. You would have thought Romo was getting a statue near the stadium or something.

I don't think its so pathetic, I think Romo is comparable to Eli talent wise. Way I saw it was if you can win a championship with Eli then you can win one with Romo. It's just the cowboys most years had a whole lot more problems than just Romo's gunslinger ways. The same maybe true of Dak, but Dak right now had some issues revealed last season that will be problematic if he doesn't fix them this offseason. If Dak can overcome them, then lets hope the rest of the team will be good enough too. When it comes to Romo, Dak and such I try to take the middle ground. Like I said, at one point in 2016 I was very impressed with Dak, with him being ahead compared to Romo at his early stage of his career on many things, like such as passing the ball when under pressure before getting to the line of scrimage instead of just running. I still remember when romo was a mobile quarterback too and would just run it.

 

[kskboys]

I don't think its so pathetic, I think Romo is comparable to Eli talent wise. Way I saw it was if you can win a championship with Eli then you can win one with Romo. It's just the cowboys most years had a whole lot more problems than just Romo's gunslinger ways. The same maybe true of Dak, but Dak right now had some issues revealed last season that will be problematic if he doesn't fix them this offseason. If Dak can overcome them, then lets hope the rest of the team will be good enough too. When it comes to Romo, Dak and such I try to take the middle ground. Like I said, at one point in 2016 I was very impressed with Dak, with him being ahead compared to Romo at his early stage of his career on many things, like such as passing the ball when under pressure before getting to the line of scrimage instead of just running. I still remember when romo was a mobile quarterback too and would just run it.

Romo was better than Eli.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Romo was better than Eli.

Well I feel that too. But Eli was pretty good too despite a lot of criticism he gets. Also being from Dallas, I saw a lot of similarities between Dirk Nowitzki and Tony Romo, in that Dirk would've been viewed in a similar fashion by many fans if it was not for that one Championship. And Romo, with his numbers, would be in the Hall of Fame, eventually, if he had won at least one superbowl, and would've been seen in a lot more positive way. And that's just my personal opinion, I'm going to say since there are a lot of Romo haters, who will take exception to my view. Anyway, Dak has potential, but lets see how this season plays out before anointing him.

 

[Alexander]

The funny thing is Romo is what our fans have accepted as successful and a hometown hero after 20 plus years of nothing, and Romo still not providing much but half decent stats, crappy playoff record and zilch SB's.

It's pathetic that our fan base have zero idea of what success really is anymore. You would have thought Romo was getting a statue near the stadium or something.

If things were generational, Romo would get a statue. Right next to the one Danny White should have got. Statues for everyone.