Something to consider

[Diehardblues]

Given the Hurns signing, and what now looks to be a crowded receivers room, is is a possibility that either Williams, Beasley, or both might be involved in some measure of a trade?

Would a team like Seattle, who have lost a few in the past two years, have in interest in either one of these guys?

This article brings up some good points.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...iams-cole-beasley-dez-bryant-trade-scenarios/

What are the thoughts on the forum?

The Switzer pick never made sense to me. Why do we need 2 Beasley type recievers ?

 

[BlindFaith]

Looking like Switzer can do what Beasley does and actually doing it are two different things. He only caught 6 passes for 41 yards. He didn’t do near enough at receiver for me to want to move on for Beasley. You can’t just assume he can do it and take the gamble. Beasley may or may not be gone after next season. You can just trade away one of your better players for picks unless you’re looking to rebuild.

Draft picks are just a roll of the dice, they carry no guarantees. Beasley wouldn’t earn a real good pick anyway. You could end up with a player who won’t help the team near as much as him. If it was up to many here all our receivers would be gone along with Dak.

Well, at least he didn't walk away from the team like special sauce did his rookie year.

Switzer, given reps, can do anything Bease can do. And Switzer has more size.

 

[BlindFaith]

The Switzer pick never made sense to me. Why do we need 2 Beasley type recievers ?

We don't. We need one Switzer type.

 

[Diehardblues]

We don't. We need one Switzer type.

What a wasted 4th rd pick for basically a punt returner when we needed size and especially speed at reciever.

 

[BlindFaith]

What a wasted 4th rd pick for basically a punt returner when we needed size and especially speed at reciever.

Switzer is UNCs all time receptions leader. He is the sixth all time in the ACC.

You sir, are uninformed.

 

[Diehardblues]

Switzer is UNCs all time receptions leader. He is the sixth all time in the ACC.

You sir, are uninformed.

Lol., that’s means nothing to me.

Terrance Williams was Baylor’s all time leading reciever.,nobody cares once your in the NFL,

 

[Diehardblues]

Beasley would probably have more value in a trade. I can’t imagine Switzer bringing anything.

 

[BlindFaith]

Lol., that’s means nothing to me.

Terrance Williams was Baylor’s all time leading reciever.,nobody cares once your in the NFL,

T Will has had a solid career.

Writing a player off after his rookie season with very limited snaps is short sighted.

Same with writing off a second year QB.

What exactly ARE you happy with? Let's cleans the universe of your negative vibe.

 

[jterrell]

What a wasted 4th rd pick for basically a punt returner when we needed size and especially speed at reciever.

Switzer made the all Rookie team.
He was not given a WR role until week 17 but he caught 6 passes on 7 targets.
Guys don't score 83 yard return touchdowns without having game speed.

Wasted 4th round picks get cut in camp.

 

[AbeBeta]

Beasley surprised everyone in 2016. I doubt anyone expected him to be our leading receiver. Dez was still drawing most of the attention. Dak caught everyone offguard and he and Beasley clicked.

Please.

Teams have film going back years. Beasley caught 52 passes the previous year.

The idea that a player excels and the opposition needs a full year to figure them out is just plain stupid. Guys get figured out after a game or two.

 

[Stash]

The Switzer pick never made sense to me. Why do we need 2 Beasley type recievers ?

I can't see drafting him, and stressing defense's with t

The Switzer pick never made sense to me. Why do we need 2 Beasley type recievers ?

It makes sense to me, being able to stress defenses with shifty receivers on multiple parts - and sides - of the field makes sense. New England has been doing that for years. What doesn't make sense to me is not actually using the guy you drafted.

If Witten is still going to play 98% of the time, Switzer can't get on the field. These guys stock a team with fourth, fifth, sixth receivers and fourth and fifth tight ends and fullbacks that they never use.

And that's the part that makes no sense to me.

 

[Pants]

The team needs new blood in a lot of places (especially including HC and OC, and that is not a snarky comment); Witten, as much as I love the guy and will be very happy when he is placed in the ROH and HOF, needs to be keyed back now....let him in for 50% of the plays this season and give some of these other guys opportunities...Beasley, at this point, is also stunting any potential growth for Switz...these are not issues for Witten or Beasley, they are FO and coaching issues....W&B are progress-stoppers at this point....

I am all for drafting Moore in the 2nd round, if there, and finding a new home for Beasley and Williams while putting Witten on the field less...the team HAS to give opportunities to their WR's but Williams, Beasley and Witten are not in for the long haul at this point so time to move on from them and give this small window of time with a cheap QB and RB the chance to flourish....

 

[conner01]

All I’m concerned with is the 2018 season. We can’t just move on from Beasley, Dez, Witten and everyone that most here want to get rid of and expect to have a good 2018 season. Beasley is a good player and I don’t see the Cowboys moving on from him this offseason. If he walks after the 2018 season so be it. As for Switzer having a good college career he didn’t have a very impressive NFL rookie season. He had one great return and that was about it.

He has a long way to go to prove himself at receiver and that he can replace Beasley. As for Hurns he hasn’t done anything in two years. He’s had some injury issues and only scored two TDs last season while Beasley had 4 TD’s. Some of you just want to move on from good players and gamble that another player can just step in and do the job as good or better. That’s how you end up in trouble.

I agree some want to cut or trade everyone with no thought of replacement
I agree hurn is more of a prospect than proven commodity
I think think will be witten last year because I think he will retire but I really don’t have the problem some do with loyalty
I don’t see dez being cut this year because we have no replacement
But I see Beasley differently and I love Beasley
He’s in his last year of his deal, we have more WR on second contracts than almost if not all nfl teams now. Beasley is not gonna get a 3rd contract, so we trade him now lose him and pray for a comp picks in two years.
I think Beasley had decent trade value and saves 3 mil
I think if you pkg Beasley with a lower pick or two you can add a second and this draft is deep in talent just lacks super stars in some positions
Reality is you can’t have a roster with 5 WR on second contracts, 4 oline guys on second contracts
You have you have so youth mixed in
You could make a good argument for moving twill over Beasley just based on talent but he has a guaranteed contract, saves very little and brings less
For me it’s not about blowing up the roster, trade them all
It’s about a single player you lose next year who has trade value that we can use and free up 3 mil in cap space and add some young talent

 

[Diehardblues]

T Will has had a solid career.

Writing a player off after his rookie season with very limited snaps is short sighted.

Same with writing off a second year QB.

What exactly ARE you happy with? Let's cleans the universe of your negative vibe.

Who’s writing anyone off?

I just said using a 4th round pick for another Beasley made no sense to me .

Now if we received some trade value for Beasley then utilized Switzer more then yea.

And I haven’t written off Dak. But he has far to go if he’s going to develop into a more prolific passing QB. One that can carry us instead of needing to be carried.

If our front office and coaching staff couldn’t have more success with Romo how do you think we’re going to do with Dak?

There is no positive vibe surrounding this dysfunctional football franchise. We’ve become a more mediocre/dormant organization this era.

My hope rest in accumulating enough Elite talent to overcome the dysfunction. And why releasing one of our Elite talents at WR concerns me regardless the cost.

When we either build a top 5 defense or field a top 5 QB then I’ll begin to look for us to contend for a championship.

 

[KJJ]

Well, at least he didn't walk away from the team like special sauce did his rookie year.

Switzer, given reps, can do anything Bease can do. And Switzer has more size.

Had Switzer performed better with the reps he got he might have gotten more. After the 2016 season Beasley was regarded as one of the best if not the best slot receiver in the game. Switzer has yet to prove himself. Some continue to think you can just plug in another player and continue on as usual.

After the 2014 season many were convinced we could just plug in a couple of backs and they could do what Murray could do and they were wrong. You don’t move on from good players until you know for sure you have a player in place who can get the job done.

 

[BobSacamano]

We really could use a Wr question sticky thread.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Given the Hurns signing, and what now looks to be a crowded receivers room, is is a possibility that either Williams, Beasley, or both might be involved in some measure of a trade?

Would a team like Seattle, who have lost a few in the past two years, have in interest in either one of these guys?

This article brings up some good points.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...iams-cole-beasley-dez-bryant-trade-scenarios/

What are the thoughts on the forum?

Maybe, but Jerry only GM's for one franchise, which precludes him trading them to himself.

 

[KJJ]

Please.

Teams have film going back years. Beasley caught 52 passes the previous year.

The idea that a player excels and the opposition needs a full year to figure them out is just plain stupid. Guys get figured out after a game or two.

Teams weren’t worried about Beasley two years ago they were worried about Dez. Beasley came up big in 2016 leading the team in receiving. He converted some critical third downs for us and this caused opponents to play closer attention to him last season by rolling coverage towards him. He was helping us sustain drives.

Anytime a player has a big year you’re going to pay closer attention to them. You want to try and reduce their effectiveness which opponents did to Beasley last season. This was one of the reasons our offense wasn’t as effective.

 

[guag]

I like having a talented wr corpse

Hey, everyone needs a hobby I guess...

 

[KJJ]

I agree some want to cut or trade everyone with no thought of replacement
I agree hurn is more of a prospect than proven commodity
I think think will be witten last year because I think he will retire but I really don’t have the problem some do with loyalty
I don’t see dez being cut this year because we have no replacement
But I see Beasley differently and I love Beasley
He’s in his last year of his deal, we have more WR on second contracts than almost if not all nfl teams now. Beasley is not gonna get a 3rd contract, so we trade him now lose him and pray for a comp picks in two years.
I think Beasley had decent trade value and saves 3 mil
I think if you pkg Beasley with a lower pick or two you can add a second and this draft is deep in talent just lacks super stars in some positions
Reality is you can’t have a roster with 5 WR on second contracts, 4 oline guys on second contracts
You have you have so youth mixed in
You could make a good argument for moving twill over Beasley just based on talent but he has a guaranteed contract, saves very little and brings less
For me it’s not about blowing up the roster, trade them all
It’s about a single player you lose next year who has trade value that we can use and free up 3 mil in cap space and add some young talent

Reading some of the comments you would think the Cowboys are coming off a 3 to 4 win season and we need to tear the team apart and rebuild. With two or three solid additions we have a chance to be a very good team in 2018 but we need to be adding to the good players we have not creating more holes. After the 2014 season many thought we could just move on from Murray and multiple backs could do what he was doing and it contributed to a miserable 2015 season. A miss calculation here or there and there goes your season. We thought Brandon Weeden was the answer at backup but we were wrong. We didn’t move on from Romo until Dak proved he could play at a high level.

Despite last year’s down season Beasley is still a very good player. He may be gone after his contract is up but we need him for the 2018 season. With Dez’s future up in the air we can’t be moving on from Beasley, Witten and the rest of our receivers because we added Thompson and Hurns who aren’t exactly elite receivers. In 8 seasons Thompson only has 77 career receptions and 4 career TDs. Hurns had one good season 3 years ago and has missed 13 games the past 2 seasons so we can’t be moving on from receivers who’ve been better because everyone wants some new blood. One poster commented that now that we have Thompson and Hurns we don’t need Dez or Twill as if we just added two of the elite receivers in the game. Lol

Beasley has some trade value but you wouldn’t get more than a 4th or 5th round pick for him. Good luck coming up with a player in the draft that would be as good or better than him. He’s going to help us more in 2018 than any draft pick we’ll get for him. It doesn’t take much for fans to bail on a player after a down year. All our receivers had down years and everyone wants to move on from all of them. Our receiving corp is an issue but we can’t just move on from all of them. Adding a speed theat in the draft and making a few adjustments, especially with Dez could make our receiving corp much better.