Sources Say Goodell Will Suspend Vick for 2007

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Zaxor;1586306 said:
I personally think Vick is involved. But NO WAY can you take away his pay for a year especially if later he is exonerated...

Think about it..now granted this a bit far fetched but it is still in the realm of reality...

lets say that it happened just like Vick said and later his Defense attorneys can prove that these cooperating witnesses had tried to extort money from Vick and when they didn't get it made up their stories...

So vick not only lost a year of playing time but his salary and his endorsements because someone lied.

How in the world can someone say that the NFL made the right move...Vick violated neither the personal conduct or broke any law...

now you might say he should have never helped out a family member... agreed if he knew he was shady but if he had no idea how can you hold him responsible he is not his brother's keeper...

now again granted... I do not see the above scenario as plausible but it is still possible.

The NFL would be just as guilty as those that tried to extort and use Vick and that would be the bigger blackeye than having waited till due process took place

sure you can take away his pay, just because a potentially ignorant jury would see Vick as a victim and let him off doesnt mean he is innocent of all charges...he's hired (ie PAID) a bigtime defense attorney who has gotten some people out of ridiculous stuff because of an extremely flawed judicial system, but as before, if he gets off it doesnt mean he is innocent

again folks, READ THE INDICTMENT...he is not going to be exonerated...he is going to either be convicted of some very serious stuff or plea bargain out

there is a reason the league, the team and all his endoresement companies have all bailed on him, and it isnt because of public pressure

David
 

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Thehoofbite;1586336 said:
Wouln't be a suspensions if it was paid. It would be a vacation.

BUT if he is found not guilty... The league would be in for deep do-do because Vick would have not been in violation of league or legal issues I can't begin to image what kind of sum of money he would be asking for..10's of millions if not more...

now again understand that I am by no means claiming that Vick is guilty or that he is not...I am just thinking of possible consequences for the league should he be aquitted
 

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dbair1967;1586366 said:
sure you can take away his pay, just because a potentially ignorant jury would see Vick as a victim and let him off doesnt mean he is innocent of all charges...he's hired (ie PAID) a bigtime defense attorney who has gotten some people out of ridiculous stuff because of an extremely flawed judicial system, but as before, if he gets off it doesnt mean he is innocent

again folks, READ THE INDICTMENT...he is not going to be exonerated...he is going to either be convicted of some very serious stuff or plea bargain out

there is a reason the league, the team and all his endoresement companies have all bailed on him, and it isnt because of public pressure

David

Again David I too think he knows more than he has let on and that from the stuff I have seen he looks to be guilty but on the off hand that he would be exonerated that would cost the league far more than it would have to suspend him with pay.
 

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Teague31;1586093 said:
way too excessive IMO- first off he has not been convicted of anything.. second, how many players get slaps on the wrist for domestic assault or as the earlier poster pointed out manslaughter. goddell is bowing to public pressure.

Isn't that the whole point? The owners represented by the commissioner and the players represented by the NFLPA have pushed for these higher personal conduct standards in their league. In part due to public pressure to clean up their act.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1586082 said:
Are these the same sources that said he wouldnt get indicted?


Right.... I take what they report now with a grain of salt....
 

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joseephuss;1586389 said:
Isn't that the whole point? The owners represented by the commissioner and the players represented by the NFLPA have pushed for these higher personal conduct standards in their league. In part due to public pressure to clean up their act.

Thus proving definitively that the "public" is largely made up of moronic busy-bodies.
 

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Being in Atlanta, this report seems to be on the money. The Falcons appear to be preparing as though they will not have Vick this season.
 

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ESPN said:
NFL denies report of Vick season-long suspension
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Updated: August 13, 2007, 8:52 AM ET
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The NFL dismissed a report Sunday that said commissioner Roger Goodell was close to announcing a season-long suspension of embattled Falcons quarterback Michael Vick for his alleged involvement in sponsoring a dogfighting operation.

Citing two sources within the league with knowledge of the situation, Yahoo.com reported late Sunday night that Goodell will announce "this week or next" that Vick will be suspended for the 2007 season.

"That's the direction it's going and has been from the time this started," one of the sources said this week, according to Yahoo. "The plan was to make sure it was announced before the season. Given what everybody has seen from what [league] security found and what the feds are telling us, there's really no choice."

"No decision has been made," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told USA Today. Aiello also said the league's independent review into the Vick case is not yet complete and that no action, if any, will be taken until the review has reached a conclusion.

In a Richmond, Va., court in late July, Vick pleaded not guilty to conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities, and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. He said in a written statement that he looked forward to "clearing my good name." He also pleaded with the public to resist a rush to judgment.

One of Vick's co-defendants, 34-year-old Tony Taylor, pleaded guilty to the same charges and pledged to fully cooperate with the government in its prosecution of Vick and two others. The plea deal requires Taylor to testify against Vick and his two remaining co-defendants if called upon to do so.

The gruesome details outlined in the July 17 indictment have fueled public protests against Vick and prompted the suspension of some of his lucrative endorsement deals. The summary of facts signed by Taylor supports the indictment's claims that the dogfighting ring on Vick's property in Surry County, Va., executed underperforming dogs by drowning, hanging and other brutal means. Taylor admitted shooting one dog and electrocuting another when they did not perform well in test fights in the summer of 2002.

Vick has been barred from Falcons training camp by Goodell while the league conducts its investigation.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the quarterback on July 24.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161

Peter King said:
Nos. 1-3. Vick is rumored to have been suspended for the year by commissioner Goodell, who awaits a fact-finding report from former U.S. Attorney Eric Holder as to whether Vick violated the league's Personal Conduct Policy.

Yahoo! reported Sunday night that the commissioner will likely suspend Vick for the season "this week or next.''

Though I don't doubt the suspension will come, I believe strongly this is not a decision the commissioner has made yet. As I said on NBC on Sunday night, when Goodell hired Holder, he committed to waiting for Holder's report -- which, I'm told, is at least a week from being completed. Two things, though, would seem to point to a lengthy suspension eventually. Goodell told me if Vick lied to him when he told the commissioner he had no involvement in dogfighting (which Vick said to Goodell in April), that would be a violation of the policy. And if the co-defendant who rolled over on Vick and the other two defendants tells the feds there was dog-fighting and gambling on Vick's property, that would be another bad strike against the idle quarterback.

Goodell hates dogfighting. Who doesn't? But he might hate the gambling allegations almost as much. Particularly if Vick was gambling with low-lifes and/or organized-crime figures who could someday come back to him and threaten him with any number of scenarios, none of which would be good for Vick or the NFL. I agree that Vick is probably going to be sent away by the league. I just don't think Goodell, in any way, has made a decision on it, and he won't until he reads Holder's report.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/08/12/mmqb/index.html
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1586464 said:
Yeah like I thought... He's not getting supsended now.

I'd be shocked if this didn't come down in the next week or so -- what else is the league going to say? All they can say is that they haven't made a decision yet.

Vick will be lucky to play again before the 2009 season.
 

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abersonc;1586478 said:
I'd be shocked if this didn't come down in the next week or so -- what else is the league going to say? All they can say is that they haven't made a decision yet.

Vick will be lucky to play again before the 2009 season.
If ever.
 

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Hostile;1586517 said:

Not a stretch at all - the gambling angle seems to be what has the league dotting i's and crossing t's. Hell, look what they did to Mr. Papadopolis over 30 years ago for association with gamblers and having bet on games.
 

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abersonc;1586532 said:
Not a stretch at all - the gambling angle seems to be what has the league dotting i's and crossing t's. Hell, look what they did to Mr. Papadopolis over 30 years ago for association with gamblers and having bet on games.

Look at what they did to Paul Hornung. Wait, he is in the HoF.
 

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abersonc;1586532 said:
Not a stretch at all - the gambling angle seems to be what has the league dotting i's and crossing t's. Hell, look what they did to Mr. Papadopolis over 30 years ago for association with gamblers and having bet on games.

joseephuss;1586547 said:
Look at what they did to Paul Hornung. Wait, he is in the HoF.
The real question is, which of these guys has the better surname? I'm going with Papadopolis. It's just fun to say.
 
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